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  • S23His Schottenring: October 16, 2012
October 16, 2012, 10:41:49 PM +0100 - Schottenring - UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Historic Trophy (66)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Al Heller
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1966) F1 1966 2 +5.285
110.079mph
1 49:47.920
108.122mph
9 5:31.132
108.402mph
Firestone  
AnGex
 
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 6 +14.090
107.185mph
2 +1:28.414
105.014mph
9 5:36.908
106.544mph
Firestone  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1966) F1 1966 8 +21.249
104.941mph
3 +2L
103.899mph
7 5:40.857
105.309mph
Disco
Firestone  
Hristo Itchov
 HikiWazaRacing
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 1 5:20.803
111.892mph
4 +4L
112.782mph
5 5:16.456
113.429mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 10 +32.434
101.618mph
5 +5L
101.786mph
4 5:45.898
103.774mph
Disco
Firestone  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1966) F1 1966 9 +26.789
103.269mph
6 +2.416
101.612mph
4 5:46.654
103.548mph
Disco
Firestone  
G Jonsson
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 5 +13.377
107.413mph
7 +7L
98.873mph
2 5:54.489
101.260mph
accident
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Eagle T1F (Climax) F1 1966 3 +6.580
109.643mph
8 +9L
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0 ---
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Disco
Goodyear  
Ronniepeterson
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 4 +10.553
108.329mph
9
---
0 ---
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Disco
Goodyear  
s2173
 Team7
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 7 +15.296
106.800mph
10
---
0 ---
---
Disco
Goodyear  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Lotus 33 (Climax 1966) F1 1966 11 +1:06.719
92.628mph
11
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0 ---
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Disco
Firestone  
BadBlood
 HikiWazaRacing
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 12 DNS ---
---
Firestone  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
Brabham BT11 (BRM V8) F1 1966 12 13 ---
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Goodyear  

Moderator's Report

Pretty clean.


Server replay time: 0h01m01s

Goran does not see a fast starting Phil pull alongside and takes the racing line. They clash wheels but both are relatively unaffected.

No other Red Zone or reported incidents

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Grand Prix Legends
F1 1966
5:16.456
113.394mph
Hristo Itchov
Race
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7)October 16, 2012, 10:41:49 PM +0100
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« on: October 15, 2012, 09:53:40 AM +0100 »

WELCOME TO THE UKGPL SEASON 23 HISTORIC (66) TROPHY

For the seventh round we go to Germany. The Schottenring track is nothing special so you do not have to be that aware  Grin

There will be full moderation of lap one Red Zone and reported incidents for the rest of the race. Please submit incident reports within a week after the race so that the moderators report may be out before the next race.

The Red Zone is from start to Steinbruch.

Reserve drivers should not use the server between 35 and 30 minutes of qualifying if it is full, to allow full timers to join.

Please restrict chat to a minimum, (or maybe none).

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Race List =         iGOR
Server =            UKGPL_T7_2
IP Address =       62.149.202.168
Race date =       16-10-2012
Time =              Race start 21.30 UK time
Track =             Schottenring     German Championship Race
Variant =           66F1 2L engines
Damage Model =  PRO
Qualifying time = Between 20.30 and 21.00 You are free to start when the server is up but reserve drivers should not use the server between 35 and 30 minutes of qualifying if it is full, to allow full timers to join.
Race length =     Pro Long (9 laps)

The track can be downloaded from: http://andre-gpl-texture.speedgeezers.net/Schotten/

The cars
Group I
T1F Eagle Climax
Lotus 33 Climax

Group II
Brabham BT11 2.5lt
Lotus 33 BRM


GroupIII
Ferrari 246
Brabham BT11 BRM
BRM P261
Brabham BT11 2.7lt


Drivers Restricted to cars from Group I

EvilClive
Al Heller
Dave Rainier



Drivers Restricted to cars form Group II or Group I




All other drivers have free chassis choice.


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(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page





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« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2012, 09:58:41 AM +0100 »

The Schottenring track is nothing special so you do not have to be that aware  Grin

Indeed.  Grin
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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2012, 07:59:57 PM +0100 »

I think Goran is being  "a little econimical with the truth"  lololol.
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« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2012, 08:20:13 PM +0100 »

Please restrict chat to a minimum, (or maybe none).
Drivers Restricted to cars from Group I

EvilClive
Al Heller
Dave Rainier

All other drivers have free chassis choice.

First, I am very proud to be part of the super elite in mod66 championship Smiley

Then if I want to be serious, I can look to the championship standings after removing the 2 worst results :

EvilClive   190   -23   167
Al Heller   189   -23   166
Rainier   182   -53   129
Hristo    150   -0   150
Goran   130   -0   130
Ronnie   108   -0   108
Phil   93   -0   93

It's clear ! Who can imagine during only one second, that I am quicker than Hristo or Göran ?
I don't want the rule to be changed for season 23 but maybe we can think of it for next seasons !?
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« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2012, 09:00:30 PM +0100 »

Which rule do you mean, Dave? The 2 worst results drop rule? I like it very much and I think it makes it more fair for everyone.
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« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2012, 09:31:51 PM +0100 »

Which rule do you mean, Dave? The 2 worst results drop rule? I like it very much and I think it makes it more fair for everyone.

Yes something like that.
For example, 1 worst result dropped until mid-season and then 2.

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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2012, 10:04:54 PM +0100 »

If I'm not mistaken I don't think David is querying the best 8 out of 10 scores to count rule.  I'm sure most people agree that it makes it fairer because not everyone can manage 100% attendance, real life gets in the way of our GPL race nights sometimes.

I think what David is querying is the way the handicapping is calculated.  I highlighted it when we were discussing the F2s and the last round being at Hockenheim (see here).  Because David has scored more points overall he has to take a slower car but if the dropped scores is taken into account when determining who has to take a slower car then clearly he should have a faster car.

Possibly something to consider if we run a division with this type of handicapping in season 24.
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« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2012, 10:20:08 PM +0100 »

I see, good point.
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« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2012, 11:31:35 PM +0100 »

On the subject of less than 100% attendance, today I brought my good lady wife home from hospital after a hip replacement op.

Its more than likely I will miss a few races over the next week or two as being just the two of us at home I will be spending time nursing the patient until she can get around unaided .

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« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2012, 09:08:40 AM +0100 »

There are some duties that come before GPL Bernie. The mods have had a meeting and I think we can sanction your absence for this one.

Give your good lady all our best wishes for a quick recovery.

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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2012, 09:26:04 AM +0100 »

Please restrict chat to a minimum, (or maybe none).
Drivers Restricted to cars from Group I

EvilClive
Al Heller
Dave Rainier

All other drivers have free chassis choice.

First, I am very proud to be part of the super elite in mod66 championship Smiley

Then if I want to be serious, I can look to the championship standings after removing the 2 worst results :

EvilClive   190   -23   167
Al Heller   189   -23   166
Rainier   182   -53   129
Hristo    150   -0   150
Goran   130   -0   130
Ronnie   108   -0   108
Phil   93   -0   93



It's clear ! Who can imagine during only one second, that I am quicker than Hristo or Göran ?
I don't want the rule to be changed for season 23 but maybe we can think of it for next seasons !?


From the Historic Trophy Registration,

"For the two last races one and then two worst results are dropped before counting handicap points."

I am not sure that it would be a good thing to beginn dropping results in mid season because no one knows what will happen. I can see the problem and that you think you should be allowed a quicker car because you believe that you are slower but this handicap system does not handicap drivers but positions in the championsip. Besides, I can assure you that neither Hristo or me have put in DNS (did not score) results on purpose.

If you like to be cunning all you have to do to get out of the group I car for the next race is to "only" be 6Th in this race if we assume, that is, that Hristo wins  Grin

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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2012, 10:53:38 AM +0100 »

If you want a faster car Dave its really quite simple, SLOW DOWN!!!!
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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2012, 11:46:41 AM +0100 »

I think the main issue with this system is in the F2 championship, not here in the 66s. F2 with those 2 much much slower cars for the top drivers is really disturbing and IMO they should be removed completely for next season, or the handicap system be adjusted somehow. 66s don't have that much of a difference in terms of speed between the cars though.
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« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2012, 12:24:28 PM +0100 »

Don't worry Dave - the handicap chassis won't be so much of a disadvantage at this track.

I've been in the handicap chassis for 13 out the last 15 races... helpsmilie (Just keeping the seat warm for Hristo)

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« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2012, 12:45:25 PM +0100 »

I'll be taking the Group 1 Lotus by choice!  Sometimes the driver is the biggest handicap - Grumble! laugh
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