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November 15, 2012, 08:48:11 PM +0000 - Adelaide (1985-95) - UKPnG Version 2 Season 7 Antipodean GT Challenge
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
lelero
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Alfa Romeo Giulia 2000 GTAm (#71040) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 1 1:46.087
78.385mph
1 37:52.862
76.831mph
21 1:46.639
77.979mph
Firestone  
Bonni Massimo
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Alfa Romeo Giulia 2000 GTAm (#71041) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 2 +0.685
77.882mph
2 +8.160
76.557mph
21 1:47.281
77.512mph
Firestone  
lentolo
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Alfa Romeo Giulia 2000 GTAm (#71041) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 3 +0.728
77.850mph
3 +8.787
76.536mph
21 1:47.214
77.561mph
Firestone  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Ford Escort RS (#71064) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 4 +1.256
77.467mph
4 +39.817
75.509mph
21 1:48.022
76.980mph
Dunlop  
Clive Loynes
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Ford Escort RS (#71064) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 7 +2.215
76.781mph
5 +57.156
74.947mph
21 1:49.081
76.233mph
Dunlop  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Alfa Romeo Giulia 2000 GTAm (#71040) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 9 +5.495
74.524mph
6 +1L
73.044mph
20 1:50.754
75.082mph
Firestone  
simon loynes
 
Ford Escort RS (#71114) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 8 +4.663
75.084mph
7 +14.219
72.591mph
20 1:50.984
74.926mph
Dunlop  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Ford Escort RS (#71114) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 8 +50.056
71.473mph
20 1:51.107
74.843mph
Dunlop  
Alex vV
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Ford Escort RS (#71064) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 11 +8.478
72.584mph
9 +1:12.384
70.793mph
20 1:54.444
72.661mph
Dunlop  
SpecialKS
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Alfa Romeo Giulia 2000 GTAm (#71041) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 12 +8.694
72.447mph
10 +1:52.818
69.595mph
20 1:54.881
72.384mph
Firestone  
McLowry
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Ford Escort RS (#71114) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 13 +10.606
71.260mph
11 +4L 17 1:53.050
73.557mph
suspension
Dunlop  
Sandor M
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Alfa Romeo Giulia 2000 GTAm (#71044) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 14 +11.426
70.763mph
12 +10L 11 1:58.063
70.433mph
suspension
Firestone  
Manteos
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Alfa Romeo Giulia 2000 GTAm (#71041) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 6 +1.362
77.391mph
13 +16L 5 1:48.504
76.638mph
suspension
Firestone  
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
Ford Escort RS (#72030) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 10 +7.580
73.157mph
14 +17L 4 1:52.085
74.190mph
DQ
Dunlop  
Hotkeys
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Alfa Romeo Giulia 2000 GTAm (#71041) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 15 +18L 3 1:52.819
73.707mph
suspension
Firestone  
johnw
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Alfa Romeo Giulia 2000 GTAm (#71041) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 5 +1.324
77.418mph
16 +20L 1 1:58.657
70.081mph
suspension
Firestone  
SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GTR2
P&G 70s Gr2 U2L
1:46.087
78.385mph
lelero
Qualifying
Alfa Romeo Giulia 2000 GTAmNovember 15, 2012, 08:48:11 PM +0000
P7AGTC
GTR2
P&G 70s Gr2 U2L
1:46.639
77.979mph
lelero
Race
Alfa Romeo Giulia 2000 GTAmNovember 15, 2012, 08:48:11 PM +0000
P7AGTC
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« Reply #30 on: November 11, 2012, 09:34:24 PM +0000 »

I'm sure that the debate on car physics will run and run but don't you just love the way that the marshals mooch about on the replays?
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« Reply #31 on: November 12, 2012, 01:03:32 PM +0000 »

RE: MJ's query about car choices.

Depends on the series, for this one it's however many cars I can find in the available test time with similar laps times
Based on some theme.

I prefer to run cars that might have actually run together hysterically, but will run anything reasonable
to get matched cars. I like to have at least 3 cars, one will usually be a slightly slower but easier to drive option
Being new to V3 (as everyone is) and with limited test time, I settled on just 2 interesting cars which seem well matched
(at least in my hands) for this event. The Escort is slightly faster but harder to do a consistant lap time
I have limited it to the '71 escort because the '72 ones are quite a bit faster, and will leave the Alfa for dead.

I will do one more season finale for this series, after that when Tony's series all end, there will be a period of fun races
with different tracks/cars/themes until new series will start sometime early next year.
Any suggestions for actual track/car combos gratefully received.

Future series will probably be similar to ones we have done before, where there will be a wide choice of cars, and people
run whatever they like, possibly with some "Legzy Dollars" or handicap theme for one or another series.
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« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2012, 04:10:17 PM +0000 »

Sounds like you need goldtop and his magic car comparison chart  Smiley
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« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2012, 04:53:50 PM +0000 »

OOh yes please Mr Johnson  Cool
I have tried using the Pils GTL hot lap charts, but they don't always work for PG
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« Reply #34 on: November 12, 2012, 05:38:25 PM +0000 »

its all in here allegedly  Smiley

With the amount of drivers regularly racing on the GC public server, the "Statistics" tab now provides good data for matching up cars. Could take a lot of the leg work out of putting series together.

http://78.46.95.57:8081/status/GCPnGV3PUB
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« Reply #35 on: November 12, 2012, 09:18:17 PM +0000 »

I've got a sneaky feeling the porsche 2.5T may fit in with the Alfa and escort  Undecided it seemed pretty evenly matched with them in a GC race this eve at anderstorp, though would need a quick test at Adelaide.
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« Reply #36 on: November 12, 2012, 09:55:35 PM +0000 »

I've got a sneaky feeling the porsche 2.5T may fit in with the Alfa and escort  Undecided it seemed pretty evenly matched with them in a GC race this eve at anderstorp, though would need a quick test at Adelaide.

Don't you start as well!

We have enough changes to rules and reg on the fly as it is!
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« Reply #37 on: November 12, 2012, 09:58:58 PM +0000 »

I've got a sneaky feeling the porsche 2.5T may fit in with the Alfa and escort  Undecided it seemed pretty evenly matched with them in a GC race this eve at anderstorp, though would need a quick test at Adelaide.

Don't you start as well!

We have enough changes to rules and reg on the fly as it is!

Good point, I'll get my coat, as you were gentlemen  boat
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« Reply #38 on: November 13, 2012, 07:53:05 AM +0000 »

 Gotta love MJ, any opportunity to shove a Porch in somewhere whistling
Actually will be good for future events if one or more of the pigs could run with
other cars, it was almost impossible to run them in a mix in PG2 as they were either much
faster or much slower than anything else.
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« Reply #39 on: November 13, 2012, 09:18:55 AM +0000 »

Gotta love MJ, any opportunity to shove a Porch in somewhere whistling

If you so desire, I will be very happy to test any track for Alfa laptimes in the future Matt. And if you want a fast drivers laptimes for the Alfas, I can probably persuade John W or our italian friend Manteos to lend a hand  Grin

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« Reply #40 on: November 13, 2012, 11:38:03 AM +0000 »

A porch or a Porsche matt?  Wink

My reasons were genuine as matt said he normally runs 3 cars in this series and from what I saw in the gc server, the 2.5T was pretty even on pace with the alfas and assume therefore the escorts too. angel
For my own amusement and fact finding I will run the 3 together as a test at Adelaide. Even if we don't use it here, could be handy for future reference.
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« Reply #41 on: November 13, 2012, 12:02:15 PM +0000 »

Gotta love MJ, any opportunity to shove a Porch in somewhere whistling

If you so desire, I will be very happy to test any track for Alfa laptimes in the future Matt. And if you want a fast drivers laptimes for the Alfas, I can probably persuade John W or our italian friend Manteos to lend a hand  Grin

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No matter for me if you need some laptimes with some cars. Unfortunately, it will be quite difficult to join your champ races, if you're going to race on Thursday. We have a VDA champ on alternate weeks on Thursday, so I will probably be able to attend your race on free (alternate) Thursdays.

However, if you need some tests, just ask Smiley

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« Reply #42 on: November 13, 2012, 12:30:14 PM +0000 »

Err... Just noticed this is a free thursday  Grin

I'll give a shout to some VDA mates, if they want to join the race  Wink

This evening I'll try both the cars, than I'll tell you the results Smiley

Cu Smiley

P.S. It's just a stupid question, and take it as it is. Could be the chance of a delayed start for the race? Even 5/10 minutes could be crucial for me, cause I have a football match from 8 to 9 p.m (local time), and I've just the time to come back home, sit on my chair without having a shower and push on the throttle. I know... it would be a law "ad personam", a kind of Berlusconi's way of governing (tipical italian disease)Cheesy Cheesy Do not insult me please  Grin
If it won't be possible, I will try to push as harder as i can with my Alfa 147 diesel before the race, with an 80% of probability to be on time for the race Wink

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« Reply #43 on: November 13, 2012, 04:10:07 PM +0000 »

I don't mind starting a few minutes later if it means a bigger grid.
If anyone objects please shout up, otherwise I will start the race at least 5 mins later.

p.s
If anyone wants to try some cars at Melbourne and post times, that would be extremely helpful
Perhaps the different porka times and anything that is comparable? Thanks to MJ for the Alfa/Porka info.

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« Reply #44 on: November 13, 2012, 04:39:25 PM +0000 »

I don't mind starting a few minutes later if it means a bigger grid.
If anyone objects please shout up, otherwise I will start the race at least 5 mins later.

p.s
If anyone wants to try some cars at Melbourne and post times, that would be extremely helpful
Perhaps the different porka times and anything that is comparable? Thanks to MJ for the Alfa/Porka info.



Thank you Matt Smiley

I just tried Alfa 2000 GTAm and Escort at adelaide '88, and they're separeted by about 1/1.5 second in my test. I tested both the cars with race fuel in quali 2 session for 20 mins. these are the best lap:

1.47.4 with escort '71 (but i was very close to the 46 high)

1.48.5 with the Alfa 2000 GTAm ( I should be able to go down a bit (approx 0.5 sec.)

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