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December 13, 2012, 08:47:26 PM +0000 - Beranovac - UKPnG Season 8
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
Porsche 911 RSR IROC (#7407) P&G Special 16 +6.914
92.851mph
1 44:29.362
90.045mph
21 2:03.139
92.951mph
Goodyear  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Chevrolet Corvette C3 L88 (70s) (#68002) P&G 70s Gr4 O2L 6 +1.876
96.808mph
2 +6L 15 1:57.850
97.123mph
unknown
{unknown}  
seniordan
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Chevrolet Corvette C3 L88 (60s) (#68045) P&G Group 3 O2L 10 +3.180
95.752mph
3 +9L 12 2:00.360
95.097mph
unknown
{unknown}  
Alex vV
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Shelby Daytona Coupe (#65026) P&G Group 3 O2L 12 +3.866
95.206mph
4 12 2:01.606
94.123mph
unknown
Goodyear  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Shelby Daytona Coupe (#65059) P&G Group 3 O2L 13 +4.907
94.388mph
5 12 2:00.178
95.241mph
unknown
Goodyear  
johnw
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Porsche 911 RSR IROC (#7408) P&G Special 2 +0.545
97.910mph
6 +13L 8 1:56.126
98.564mph
unknown
Goodyear  
Roadrunner
 
Porsche 911 RSR IROC (#7408) P&G Special 5 +1.614
97.023mph
7 +15L 6 1:59.139
96.072mph
suspension
Goodyear  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 RSR IROC (#7411) P&G Special 1 1:56.357
98.369mph
8 +17L 4 1:56.626
98.142mph
suspension
Goodyear  
jpv
 Kerb Crawlers
DeTomaso Pantera (#72031) P&G 70s Gr4 O2L 15 +6.153
93.428mph
9 4 2:02.214
93.655mph
engine
Dunlop  
simon loynes
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Shelby Daytona Coupe (#65026) P&G Group 3 O2L 3 +0.888
97.624mph
10 +18L 3 1:58.475
96.610mph
DQ
Goodyear  
goldtop
 Kerb Crawlers
Chevrolet Corvette C3 L88 (60s) (#68045) P&G Group 3 O2L 4 +0.924
97.594mph
11 3 1:58.560
96.541mph
DQ
{unknown}  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 RSR IROC (#7402) P&G Special 9 +2.271
96.486mph
12 3 1:59.560
95.733mph
DQ
Goodyear  
purdie
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 RSR IROC (#7414) P&G Special 11 +3.220
95.720mph
13 3 1:59.443
95.827mph
DQ
Goodyear  
Hotkeys
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
DeTomaso Pantera (#72031) P&G 70s Gr4 O2L 7 +2.036
96.677mph
+21L 0 ---
---
suspension
Dunlop  
Clive Loynes
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Chevrolet Corvette C3 L88 (70s) (#68044) P&G 70s Gr4 O2L 8 +2.187
96.554mph
0 ---
---
unknown
{unknown}  
Jules™
 Kerb Crawlers
DeTomaso Pantera (#72031) P&G 70s Gr4 O2L 14 +5.934
93.596mph
0 ---
---
suspension
Dunlop  
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GTR2
P&G Group 3 O2L
1:57.245
97.624mph
simon loynes
Qualifying
Shelby Daytona CoupeDecember 13, 2012, 08:47:26 PM +0000
P8
GTR2
P&G Group 3 O2L
1:58.475
96.610mph
simon loynes
Race
Shelby Daytona CoupeDecember 13, 2012, 08:47:26 PM +0000
P8
GTR2
P&G Special
1:56.357
98.369mph
Geoffers
Qualifying
Porsche 911 RSR IROCDecember 13, 2012, 08:47:26 PM +0000
P8
GTR2
P&G Special
1:56.126
98.564mph
johnw
Race
Porsche 911 RSR IROCDecember 13, 2012, 08:47:26 PM +0000
P8
GTR2
P&G 70s Gr4 O2L
1:58.233
96.808mph
FullMetalGasket
Qualifying
Chevrolet Corvette C3 L88 (70s)December 13, 2012, 08:47:26 PM +0000
P8
GTR2
P&G 70s Gr4 O2L
1:57.850
97.123mph
FullMetalGasket
Race
Chevrolet Corvette C3 L88 (70s)December 13, 2012, 08:47:26 PM +0000
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« on: December 04, 2012, 01:10:34 PM +0000 »

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Practice: 19:20 (GMT) (60 mins)
Qual 2: 20:25 (20 mins)
Race: 20:45 ~ (21 laps)
Cars allowed: De Tomaso Pantera (BOSS and Stock only), Shelby Daytona Coupe, Porche RSR IROC, Chevy L88 "Hardtop"

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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2012, 02:24:14 PM +0000 »

This is a track I tried to use a couple of times when I was going to be running an "Iron Curtain" series
and I also wanted to run an event using the Panty, which is seriously good fun in PG3  Grin
The Panty Modena is the quickest, the other versions may be an easier to drive option.

The other cars are for me slightly slower, but are a reasonably close option for those that
want an alternative. If anyone want to post some times, that would be great.
If any car in alien hands is way quicker than my testing I can alter the list if required.
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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2012, 07:59:21 PM +0000 »

You spoil us with your car choice Mr Ambassador

(and with the billboard on the final turn  Shocked )
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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2012, 09:40:08 AM +0000 »

Don't look Tony, it's not good for you   Wink
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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2012, 09:57:10 AM +0000 »

Nice set of motors, never heard of the track !
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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2012, 12:35:43 PM +0000 »

I think that it would be a good idea to adopt one or two test tracks, that we already know, to try out all of the cars that need looking at.  So that we understand the relative performance of each.
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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2012, 12:46:47 PM +0000 »

I think that it would be a good idea to adopt one or two test tracks, that we already know, to try out all of the cars that need looking at.  So that we understand the relative performance of each.

i agree, maybe a set of 'class' races at a certain well known track. ie work our way up through the classes of cars to see what are similar and what arent. TC65 race, GT65, Grp2, Grp4 etc.  You could even limit numbers of each car available so that everyone takes a different car rather than have 10 capris v 5 porkers and nowt else, as an example.
Maybe Donington for twisty & cambered, then Barcelona for good mix of long straight and fast curves  Smiley
I was surprised how many 'old' cars could power right past the newer machinery on the barcelona main straight last night and still battle relatively well in the corners.
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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2012, 12:58:38 PM +0000 »

Good plan. I had started with Portimao as a good allrounder, but I also wanted to see how Beranovac
worked on line, as I would like to use it in the future.
Unfortunately I have very limited time to give to this stuff, so sometimes it's whatever I can come
up with in the time available. When I ask for serious track car combo suggestions I am not being polite
I mean it. I had to create the new series and this event while at work for e.g
"Yes boss I am really working, honest"
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« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2012, 03:22:13 PM +0000 »

Portimao is a great choice, lovely track and would  be good fun in these classics  Cool

No probs with your cunning track selections but for testing purposes its better to have a track that most know, so that they can concentrate on getting the car right and driving it properly rather than learning a new track as well. A familiar track is a good bench mark.

Am sure a few of us can help with car/track testing if you need some. I expect there is a few of us who try say all 3 cars at an upcoming event, though i tend to always pick my favourite classic car of the available selection, whether its quickest or not.

Of course, if we wait a while, GC will have done several test races of their own and defined groups of similar competitive cars  Wink
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« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2012, 03:35:18 PM +0000 »

 laugh

I need all the info I can get. Creating events is easy, trying to come up with tracks that work well
with a selection of cars is hard work if you have to start from scratch every time.
Beranovac has a good mix of corners, and is pretty easy to learn (IMHO) and I like it  Tongue
so I would like to run it. It's a bit like Jops Siffert in style, only probably easier.
There has to be some perks that go with this job, so running fave tracks on occasion is
a perk I'll take advantage of.   Roll Eyes

I can't use the old matched cars examples in PG2 as in 3 some are different. So I need to get
a feel for what cars work with what, hence the larger choice of cars. The L88 Hardtop for
example is a pig to drive in my hands, with someone who can tame it, it may well be the fastest
car of this group.

We'll get there.  Cheesy
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« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2012, 03:57:54 PM +0000 »

Had a quick blast here and it's a great track for these cars although it does get a bit tight in places, which could get exciting  Shocked Haven't tried all the cars yet, but the IROC seems a bit off pace compared with the Panteras and the Daytona  Undecided

As MJ says, I'm sure there would be a few of us willing to help out testing track/car combinations. Personally I find it almost as enjoyable as racing, so start PMing your ideas around Matt and we'll do what we can.

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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2012, 12:36:56 PM +0000 »

My testing times below:
(All best times with 40 mins race fuel, and no more than 10 laps in each, some were just a couple of laps to see if they were in the same league.)

Vette Grand Sport  1:58.6
RSR 3.0                1:59.2

Pantera Modena     2:01.3
Daytona               2:01.8
IROC                    2:01.9
L88 Hardtop          2:02.1

Pantera Boss         2:05.6 (2:01,5 with setups and practice)
RSR 2.5                2:07.0
Cobra Coupe         2:09.0


RSR 2.8 might have been in the target range of mid 2:01 as would several others
Any times from other people for comparison would be super brill  Cool


1: I could do with some comparison times at a fast and slow track of your choice for a mix of British and American
cars. Elan/ELite/Tina/MIni/Alfa etc etc in one group then some Yank tanks in another group, we have
some idea from PG2 events, but as you know some of the variants are quite different in PG3 and I have
no experience with them. Tony has already PM'd me some British roller skates comparisons which will be put into use
somewhere...

2: Is there a track where a 906 variant would match a Panty and/or GT40 variant?

3: Tonight's Aussie race should provide some much needed real world times that I can use, hopefully
not everyone will take a Capri.

4:If anyone wants to run as many cars as they can at Portimao that would be a huge help, as that is
a "mid range" track to me, so test data from there would be great.

PLease PM me any times, so as not to be a spoiler for possible future events,
Ta
Matt.
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« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2012, 10:06:30 PM +0000 »

I just tried these cars on their default setups and had the following result in TT mode:-

Pantera BOSS   2:03.372
Daytona Coupe  2:00.659
IROC     2:05.257
L88 Hard Top   2:00.728

I'm just not a Porsche driver by the look of it but I do seem to remember that the default setups for the IROC were pants in v2.

That tightening left hander is going to cause some grief.   Roll Eyes  And we have a mix of cars with and without brakes so that will cause a few shunts as well.  You have to throw the anchor out very early in the Daytona and L88 but then again, that may be down to the default setups.
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« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2012, 11:35:31 PM +0000 »

Quick question. Is the L88 Hardtop the C3 one?
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« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2012, 11:11:14 AM +0000 »

Quick question. Is the L88 Hardtop the C3 one?

I only found one sort.   Huh

What does the other one look like?

EDIT  Just checked my replay and I was using the C3 L88 Hardtop.  The other hardtop doesn't say L88.
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