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December 13, 2012, 08:47:26 PM +0000 - Beranovac - UKPnG Season 8
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
Porsche 911 RSR IROC (#7407) P&G Special 16 +6.914
92.851mph
1 44:29.362
90.045mph
21 2:03.139
92.951mph
Goodyear  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Chevrolet Corvette C3 L88 (70s) (#68002) P&G 70s Gr4 O2L 6 +1.876
96.808mph
2 +6L 15 1:57.850
97.123mph
unknown
{unknown}  
seniordan
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Chevrolet Corvette C3 L88 (60s) (#68045) P&G Group 3 O2L 10 +3.180
95.752mph
3 +9L 12 2:00.360
95.097mph
unknown
{unknown}  
Alex vV
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Shelby Daytona Coupe (#65026) P&G Group 3 O2L 12 +3.866
95.206mph
4 12 2:01.606
94.123mph
unknown
Goodyear  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Shelby Daytona Coupe (#65059) P&G Group 3 O2L 13 +4.907
94.388mph
5 12 2:00.178
95.241mph
unknown
Goodyear  
johnw
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Porsche 911 RSR IROC (#7408) P&G Special 2 +0.545
97.910mph
6 +13L 8 1:56.126
98.564mph
unknown
Goodyear  
Roadrunner
 
Porsche 911 RSR IROC (#7408) P&G Special 5 +1.614
97.023mph
7 +15L 6 1:59.139
96.072mph
suspension
Goodyear  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 RSR IROC (#7411) P&G Special 1 1:56.357
98.369mph
8 +17L 4 1:56.626
98.142mph
suspension
Goodyear  
jpv
 Kerb Crawlers
DeTomaso Pantera (#72031) P&G 70s Gr4 O2L 15 +6.153
93.428mph
9 4 2:02.214
93.655mph
engine
Dunlop  
simon loynes
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Shelby Daytona Coupe (#65026) P&G Group 3 O2L 3 +0.888
97.624mph
10 +18L 3 1:58.475
96.610mph
DQ
Goodyear  
goldtop
 Kerb Crawlers
Chevrolet Corvette C3 L88 (60s) (#68045) P&G Group 3 O2L 4 +0.924
97.594mph
11 3 1:58.560
96.541mph
DQ
{unknown}  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 RSR IROC (#7402) P&G Special 9 +2.271
96.486mph
12 3 1:59.560
95.733mph
DQ
Goodyear  
purdie
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 RSR IROC (#7414) P&G Special 11 +3.220
95.720mph
13 3 1:59.443
95.827mph
DQ
Goodyear  
Hotkeys
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
DeTomaso Pantera (#72031) P&G 70s Gr4 O2L 7 +2.036
96.677mph
+21L 0 ---
---
suspension
Dunlop  
Clive Loynes
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Chevrolet Corvette C3 L88 (70s) (#68044) P&G 70s Gr4 O2L 8 +2.187
96.554mph
0 ---
---
unknown
{unknown}  
Jules™
 Kerb Crawlers
DeTomaso Pantera (#72031) P&G 70s Gr4 O2L 14 +5.934
93.596mph
0 ---
---
suspension
Dunlop  
SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GTR2
P&G Group 3 O2L
1:57.245
97.624mph
simon loynes
Qualifying
Shelby Daytona CoupeDecember 13, 2012, 08:47:26 PM +0000
P8
GTR2
P&G Group 3 O2L
1:58.475
96.610mph
simon loynes
Race
Shelby Daytona CoupeDecember 13, 2012, 08:47:26 PM +0000
P8
GTR2
P&G Special
1:56.357
98.369mph
Geoffers
Qualifying
Porsche 911 RSR IROCDecember 13, 2012, 08:47:26 PM +0000
P8
GTR2
P&G Special
1:56.126
98.564mph
johnw
Race
Porsche 911 RSR IROCDecember 13, 2012, 08:47:26 PM +0000
P8
GTR2
P&G 70s Gr4 O2L
1:58.233
96.808mph
FullMetalGasket
Qualifying
Chevrolet Corvette C3 L88 (70s)December 13, 2012, 08:47:26 PM +0000
P8
GTR2
P&G 70s Gr4 O2L
1:57.850
97.123mph
FullMetalGasket
Race
Chevrolet Corvette C3 L88 (70s)December 13, 2012, 08:47:26 PM +0000
P8
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« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2012, 12:36:07 PM +0000 »

Hmm.... very strange. Huh I get laptimes that are way faster than yours Matt.

1.54.900 in the Pantera and 1.55.500 in the Porca 3.0. using almost default setup.

Usually Matt is a bit faster than me, so ...... can I be doing something wrong here ?

Even more strange, I go 3 secs faster than Clive in the De Tomaso Boss  Huh

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« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2012, 02:10:09 PM +0000 »

What setting have I got wrong now?

These cars mostly feel as though the track rods have fallen off when I'm on the straight.
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« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2012, 03:15:57 PM +0000 »

Can't be the wrong track, there is only one, but make sure you are using the one that Dave made an installer for
The track exists as a Clock Wise and Counter ClockWise layout. We are using CCW.

Clive's times look as expected, he is usually a bit quicker than I am, my IROC times are
a bit faster and I'm no porka expert either.
I always choose a Porka that is slower for me than the other cars for that reason.

My setups I used for testing, way off perfection, I just made something I could drive.
ALl were race fuel, and probably medium tyres.

http://www.matt-rowe.co.uk/comp/Beranovacgtr2.zip
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« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2012, 03:22:40 PM +0000 »

Can't be the wrong track, there is only one, but make sure you are using the one that Dave made an installer for
http://www.matt-rowe.co.uk/comp/Beranovacgtr2.zip

My Iroc time is simular to yours Matt, and the track is the right one.

Maybe I just get along fine with these cars   Grin Grin

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« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2012, 03:37:20 PM +0000 »

5 Secs faster is a bit disturbing though  Shocked Danniel Scarpa or John_W perhaps... but last time I heard you were still a Human Stig  Grin

Have aliens from the planet Phnim been visiting Denmark? Perhaps I am just slow in these cars, but I drove the Panty quite a bit
so I should be somewhere near.

There are a few L88s but there is only one called "Hardtop"
It's not the RSR3.0 for this event, it's the IROC one, in case there is any confusion

I have started the practice server with the correct track BTW

If people post some more times I can see whether I need to adjust cars a bit.
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« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2012, 04:23:56 PM +0000 »

I should stick to your guns Matt.

If one of the cars turns out to be a tad slow then the aliens, and Stig, can always use it.  Grin
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« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2012, 04:56:14 PM +0000 »

I have started the practice server with the correct track BTW


Why is Practice in the dark?   Huh
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« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2012, 05:02:22 PM +0000 »

I managed a 1 59.6 in the 26 Daytona with the default settings
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« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2012, 06:00:16 PM +0000 »

A quick blast with race fuel and mediums...

CarDescription=DETOMASO PANTERA GR.4 (MODENA)
BestLapTime=117.736053

CarDescription=DETOMASO PANTERA GR.4 (BOSS)
BestLapTime=119.812317

CarDescription=DETOMASO PANTERA GR.4 (STOCK)
BestLapTime=125.681335

CarDescription=SHELBY DAYTONA COUPE
BestLapTime=117.668518

CarDescription=CHEVROLET CORVETTE C3 L88 HARDTOP
BestLapTime=118.858765

CarDescription=PORSCHE 911 RSR IROC
BestLapTime=120.777374


 
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« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2012, 07:39:51 PM +0000 »

Slowest are the IROC and the Stock Pants but a good pairing together.

Middling are Boss, Hardtop and Daytona all within 3 secs of each other.

But the fastest car of all by over 4 secs is the Modena Pants.
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« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2012, 08:37:42 PM +0000 »

A quick blast with race fuel and mediums...
CarDescription=DETOMASO PANTERA GR.4 (MODENA)
BestLapTime=117.736053

GT, you're a very fast driver, so Pantera ( especially the Modena ) must be THÉ car for old Hotkeys.
I can do 115.000 on medium tyres and race fuel.

The balance of this car is so good, that you can catch a runaway rear end
 
at 110 mph, and that ain't ½ bad  Grin


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« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2012, 11:04:46 PM +0000 »

There are a few L88s but there is only one called "Hardtop"

OK thats the C3 type L88, as opposed to the C2 type. Cheers.

PS: 1.57.0 in the IROC, much nicer to drive now  Grin, the v2.1 IROC was just undrivable for me.
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« Reply #27 on: December 09, 2012, 11:33:27 AM +0000 »

Seems to be working out more or less right. The Modena Panty is the fastest, the Daytona is only just behind in the right hands
and the IROC is as good as you are a Porka driver. The Hardtop L88 is a variable, again close to the Panty in the right hands.

I am not intending to change the cars list based on the inputs so far, thanks guys for taking the time to post  thumbup1
And thanks for the PMs so far, it's all useful data for future events.

This is not a champ race, so people can take whatever car they like best, there is likely to be a couple of people to
play with whatever car you choose. Looks like I will need the Modena just to keep up with the field  Shocked

No idea why practice is in the dark, I set the start time to be 13:00 and then 14:00 was same both ways. I wil try
to set as 09:00 and see what happens.
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« Reply #28 on: December 09, 2012, 11:34:34 AM +0000 »

Just a suggestion, so don't everybody reach for their guns, but wouldn't it be easier on Matt if we made these "Fun" races Benchmark events?

In other words specify a range of cars and a benchmark lap time that was not to be broken in practice, qually or the race.  Break it in the race and you are disqualified, for being in the wrong car.  At earlier stages you just have to change cars.

It would bunch the field up and stop people having lonely races.

If you specify a benchmark of 1:53 I will take the Pantera Modena.  At 1:57 it will probably be the L88 Hardtop.

All you need is an alien to let you know what the fastest time in the slowest car might be.  No point in setting a benchmark that is faster than that.

You can add a whole lot more cars in this way.

But I cannot possibly translate this into Italian.  Grin
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« Reply #29 on: December 09, 2012, 11:50:00 AM +0000 »

Reasonable idea, not sure I have the time to police it. I am happy to adopt a voluntary guide of benchmarks
if Clive or "people" want to suggest the times though.

1:57 seems to coming out as a target to aim for so far. I would still like to know what as many peoples as possible best times
are in all the cars, pretty please.  chef

Most value for me is to see what cars produce what times with different drivers, my times are usually a good baseline, but I may not
be so good in some cars compared to other poeples spread of times.
In the race as far as I am concerned it's a "fun" race so you take what you want
most help to me is lists of times from different people so I can work out an "average"
for a particular car which I can then use for future planning. I am not going to be able to spend hours testing
for next years events, I will choose a list of cars for a Season for the whole season, and probably at least one series
with different cars each event. a few tenths here or there is not important, all I need to know is which cars
are likely to produce close racing at most tracks
Sometimes it will be a bit dodgy where we have small cars with good brakes and bigger less nimble cars
for me this can make good racing as long as people are sensible, and mostly the people who race here are.
You did used to get Minis battling with Falcons, I am aware of Clive's dislike for this, but some people enjoy it, so
no reason such things shouldn't happen here. IMHO

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Bizzare, tried setting star time to 09:00 and 10:00 and it is still dark for prac...
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