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September 18, 2012, 10:36:00 PM +0100 - Mosport - UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Historic Trophy (66)
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reason
Ballast
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Eagle T1F (Climax) F1 1966 3 +0.834
104.968mph
1 51:37.244
102.902mph
36 1:24.448
104.835mph
Goodyear  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 8 +3.732
101.481mph
2 +1:00.255
100.938mph
36 1:26.828
101.961mph
Firestone  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.5) F1 1966 6 +2.834
102.537mph
3 +1L
99.315mph
35 1:26.496
102.353mph
Goodyear  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Lotus 33 (Climax 1966) F1 1966 9 +3.754
101.455mph
4 +13.404
98.890mph
35 1:28.181
100.397mph
Firestone  
AnGex
 
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 4 +2.001
103.535mph
5 +22L
99.901mph
14 1:26.382
102.488mph
Disco
Firestone  
G Jonsson
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 2 +0.748
105.075mph
6 +0.192
99.885mph
14 1:24.271
105.055mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Hristo Itchov
 HikiWazaRacing
Brabham BT11 (BRM V8) F1 1966 1 1:23.507
106.016mph
7 +29L
99.900mph
7 1:24.905
104.271mph
Disco
Goodyear  
vosblod
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 5 +2.458
102.985mph
8 +33L
95.953mph
3 1:27.293
101.418mph
Disco
Goodyear  
BadBlood
 HikiWazaRacing
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 10 +6.895
97.930mph
9 +36L
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Disco
Firestone  
Nigel Smith
 HikiWazaRacing
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 7 +3.164
102.146mph
10 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
G Jonsson
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 11 ---
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Goodyear  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
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Goodyear  

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Clean Red Zone although Badblood doesn't make it to Moss and Nigel does so by the skin of his teeth...


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Hristo tried to go around the outside of Phil at turn 2B. Hristo has disappeared from Phil's mirrors much earlier and with such close racing it is extremely hard to tell where H is from Phil POV.

It could be argued that Phil should have known that Hristo was alongside but there is not enough room there to go two abreast and it is not unreasonable for Phil to expect Hristo to back out. Conversely Hristo had 100% overlap and could reasonably contest the corner. Hard racing.

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« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2013, 11:55:55 PM +0000 »

LOL. I took the view that Phil was reasonable to assume that he had a lead (if slightly dozy) but there was no question of culpability on your part H. I am not sure anyone else would try a pass there though... it's hard enough to carry the speed on the line...
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« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2013, 12:17:30 AM +0000 »

LOL. I took the view that Phil was reasonable to assume that he had a lead (if slightly dozy) but there was no question of culpability on your part H. I am not sure anyone else would try a pass there though... it's hard enough to carry the speed on the line...

Sure, but if you are in the lead, you are most certain to see at least parts of the other car in your mirrors, not to mention the way the engine sound from the other car is delivered. My point is, unless you're almost 100% sure you have nobody on your side, it's a big risk to change lines. You know about the similar incident with myself and Nathan in the F2 Hockenheim race, the one I appealed for.
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« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2013, 09:04:49 AM +0000 »

I don't think that was quite the same. You never appear in Phil's mirrors and engine note is impossible to tell apart from the other cars because they are so close. I think Phil would acknowledge that he could have been more helpful. I don't think he changed line so much as committed to the racing line which is where the incidents differ IMHO. But, of course, that is only my opinion. Anyway, I take the point!
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« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2013, 10:13:14 PM +0000 »

I don't think that was quite the same. You never appear in Phil's mirrors and engine note is impossible to tell apart from the other cars because they are so close. I think Phil would acknowledge that he could have been more helpful. I don't think he changed line so much as committed to the racing line which is where the incidents differ IMHO. But, of course, that is only my opinion. Anyway, I take the point!

I think I was in Phil's mirrors a corner or two ago? Surely I must have been behind at some point before making a move, lol. Some incidents should be rewind back a bit in the replay before passing judgement. Also, the similarity between the incidents is that both cars on the inside used the racing line and went towards the outside at corner exit.
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« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2013, 01:06:46 AM +0000 »

LOL 'Nuff said
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