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  • S25Nov Monza: December 17, 2013
December 17, 2013, 09:35:49 PM +0000 - Monza (GP 1955-71) - UKGPL Season 25 (2013) Novices Trophy (65)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
happyal
 Clark-Hill Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 1 1:37.134
132.409mph
1 41:24.156
129.435mph
25 1:37.270
132.224mph
Dunlop  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 2 +0.750
131.395mph
2 +20.621
128.369mph
25 1:37.830
131.467mph
Dunlop  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 5 +1.710
130.119mph
3 +20.730
128.364mph
25 1:38.122
131.076mph
Goodyear  
Walter Conn
 WSL Racing Team
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 4 +1.664
130.179mph
4 +37.380
127.516mph
25 1:38.193
130.981mph
Goodyear  
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 6 +3.782
127.447mph
5 +1:11.840
125.797mph
25 1:40.724
127.690mph
Dunlop  
Boggy
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 3 +1.562
130.314mph
6 +4L
125.005mph
21 1:38.290
130.852mph
accident
Goodyear  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 7 7 DNS ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

The red zone was shadowed by a big mayhem in T1 Curva Grande...


Server replay time: 0h01m16s

Arfs engine fails into T1 and he tries to keep out of the way becoming very slow.
Boggy following him is surprised by the speed difference and rear ends him.
The rules say:
"The victim slowed unexpectedly and the shunter was too close to take avoiding action."

The following flying circus catches Paul and Billy as innocent victims..


Server replay time: 0h23m53s

Paul catches Walter on the straight to the Parabolica.
Walter want's to give him lots of room and gets too far left into the gras.
Overreacting action makes him shooting directly in Pauls way...
Crash boom!

December 17, 2013, 09:35:49 PM +0000 - Monza (GP 1955-71) - UKGPL Season 25 (2013) Intermediates Trophy (65)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 4 +1.244
131.021mph
1 41:24.153
129.435mph
25 1:37.806
131.500mph
Goodyear  
happyal
 Clark-Hill Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 2 +0.215
132.409mph
2 +0.003
129.435mph
25 1:37.270
132.224mph
Dunlop  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 5 +1.458
130.736mph
3 +3.473
129.254mph
25 1:38.465
130.620mph
Goodyear  
Arf Arf Arf
 Team Baarf
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 1 1:36.919
132.703mph
4 +10.096
128.911mph
25 1:36.935
132.681mph
Dunlop  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 3 +0.965
131.395mph
5 +20.624
128.369mph
25 1:37.830
131.467mph
Dunlop  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 8 +1.925
130.119mph
6 +20.733
128.364mph
25 1:38.122
131.076mph
Goodyear  
BadBlood
 Blue Moose Racing
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 11 7 +37.127
127.529mph
25 1:37.997
131.243mph
Dunlop  
Walter Conn
 WSL Racing Team
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 7 +1.879
130.179mph
8 +37.383
127.516mph
25 1:38.193
130.981mph
Goodyear  
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 9 +3.997
127.447mph
9 +1:11.843
125.797mph
25 1:40.724
127.690mph
Dunlop  
Boggy
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 6 +1.777
130.314mph
10 +4L
125.005mph
21 1:38.290
130.852mph
accident
Goodyear  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 10 11 DNS ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

The red zone was shadowed by a big mayhem in T1 Curva Grande...
No Int driver found guilty!

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« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2013, 09:19:15 AM +0000 »

Well done Al on the Novices championship - you were consistently the quicker driver over the season & deserved it. I knew I would have to finish ahead of you to win the championship - so my best hope was really you putting a wheel in the gravel trap at Parabolica.
Not a great start, Boggy got trapped behind Arf's dying BRM & went sideways & I really couldn't react fast enough. The race was more or less over by then but kept interesting by some good racing in the middle order. Last few laps were tight with team mate Dave Curtis - side by side into Parablica on the last lap & he went over the finish line 0.011 ahead - not quite matching Al & Rog.
Great season - although the grids were a bit sparse for teh first few rounds.
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« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2013, 11:30:03 AM +0000 »

Had to work hard last weeks and missed the last races. Grats to the winners and thank you everyone for the great races!
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« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2013, 12:04:51 AM +0000 »

Season 26 will be here before you know it Ivan!
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« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2013, 12:05:56 PM +0000 »



Just my opinion of course, but get rid off reset's and I'd come back even if I did run last all race.

EDIT: Thinking about it, I could well join the Professional league, they also run on Tuesdays and they don't have resets.

I think resets are like Marmite  Grin, you either like them or hate them.
 I guess it also depends upon your reasons for racing GPL? If you see it as a chance to have some fun throwing these old style cars around some famous circuits and that "floats your boat", then a reset or two is not going to matter.
If on the other hand, you are looking for the realism and thrill of racing in the 60's and want to be as true to how it was as you can get, then a reset  just shatters the realism.

They are invaluable when you are learning GPL or a new circuit, but personally I do feel that in a real (online) race it ought to be like it would in real life. If you blow your engine, remove a couple of wheels against the armco or make a serious attempt to re arrange the scenery then you should not expect to reach the chequered flag.
In some races we do allow resets for all, but I kind of feel slightly dishonest if I have to use it, and often my enthusiasm for the rest of the race is somewhat diminished. Whereas if I take a fragile, car such as the 67 Honda, and somehow compete at the sharp end AND preserve all the whizzy bits right up to the end of the race , it does give me a warm glow.

If you want to run in the PRO's next season Tony you might find that your approach serves you well. The level of competition is high, but because things are closer to the edge at the front, so is the attrition rate. So those who keep their cars in one piece often pick up places as the race progresses. I don't see that approach as "wrong" at all, because as in real life racing "to finish first ( or anywhere else) first you have to finish!"
There are no prizes for being blisteringly fast over 3 laps in a 25 lap race.But balancing your pace against survival is the key.

I hope you do try Pro's next season Tony as you might find the different ethos more to your liking and maybe can persuaded to fiddle with some setups lol!
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« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2013, 12:44:47 PM +0000 »

I agree with all the points made in the above. For me it is about reaslism, within the confines of what GPL is capable of doing. I started with Novices because it seemed like the best place to begin my GPL career. After two seasons I think I know now how things work and although I'm slow I enjoy the racing a lot. I find the principal and operation of reset's ill placed in a racing sim although I get why their used, there just not for me. The Professional series also appeals now as they use one chassis for the whole season which is what I did previously in the Novices (again it's a realism thing).
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« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2013, 01:54:07 PM +0000 »

A good and enjoyable race for me, using the draft with Al  Rainier and Dave C. we had lots of place changes. What a finish Al out braked me into Parabolica and was on outside, i came out of corner ahead but Al was carrying slightly more speed and acceleration and we crossed the finish line together.

Thanks 65 ints and 65 novs drivers for some great racing.

Thanks to Badblood for running series.

Grats to JP on ints championship win.

Grats to Al on novs championship win.
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