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January 08, 2013, 09:16:49 PM +0000 - Imola (2007+) - UKGPL Season 23 (2012)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
MagicArsouille
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 3 +0.493
114.470mph
1 24:35.004
114.149mph
15 1:37.238
115.435mph
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT11 (BRM V8) F1 1966 1 1:37.565
115.048mph
2 +8.788
113.473mph
15 1:37.308
115.352mph
Goodyear  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 2 +0.255
114.748mph
3 +16.570
112.881mph
15 1:36.995
115.724mph
Goodyear  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 4 +1.148
113.710mph
4 +27.059
112.092mph
15 1:38.296
114.192mph
Firestone  
Ronniepeterson
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.5) F1 1966 7 +3.855
110.675mph
5 +43.997
110.842mph
15 1:39.039
113.336mph
Goodyear  
AnGex
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1966) F1 1966 5 +3.305
111.278mph
6 +1:29.771
107.600mph
15 1:40.120
112.112mph
Firestone  
Arf Arf Arf
 Team Baarf
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.5) F1 1966 6 +3.837
110.695mph
7 +1:34.725
107.260mph
15 1:40.702
111.464mph
Goodyear  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.5) F1 1966 8 +4.025
110.490mph
8 +1:36.746
107.122mph
15 1:41.012
111.122mph
Goodyear  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Lotus 33 (Climax 1966) F1 1966 10 +4.903
109.543mph
9 +1:37.493
107.072mph
15 1:41.152
110.968mph
Firestone  
BadBlood
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 9 +4.818
109.634mph
10 +7L
102.836mph
8 1:41.780
110.283mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Nigel Smith
 Blue Moose Racing
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 11 DNS ---
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Firestone  
UKGPL 3
 
Honda RA273 F1 1966 11 12 ---
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Goodyear  
January 08, 2013, 10:05:08 PM +0000 - Imola (2007+) - UKGPL Season 23 (2012)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Ronniepeterson
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 2 +1.859
114.905mph
1 24:44.800
113.403mph
15 1:36.989
115.739mph
Goodyear  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 5 +2.709
113.914mph
2 +1.090
113.320mph
15 1:36.776
115.994mph
Goodyear  
MagicArsouille
 
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 1 1:35.834
117.134mph
3 +5.469
112.987mph
15 1:35.644
117.367mph
Goodyear  
AnGex
 
Cooper T81 (Maserati) F1 1966 4 +2.583
114.060mph
4 +15.634
112.222mph
15 1:38.302
114.193mph
Firestone  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1966) F1 1966 6 +3.189
113.362mph
5 +53.407
109.466mph
15 1:38.129
114.395mph
Goodyear  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 3 +2.140
114.575mph
6 +53.909
109.430mph
15 1:37.890
114.674mph
Firestone  
BadBlood
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 10 +5.966
110.269mph
7 +1:03.039
108.785mph
15 1:40.242
111.983mph
Goodyear  
Nigel Smith
 Blue Moose Racing
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 14 8 +1:21.029
107.535mph
15 1:40.390
111.818mph
Firestone  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 7 +3.867
112.591mph
9 +1:27.288
107.107mph
15 1:39.332
113.009mph
Goodyear  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 13 10 +1L
104.663mph
14 1:42.428
109.593mph
Goodyear  
s2173
 Team7
BRM P83 F1 1966 12 11 +11L
103.203mph
4 1:44.422
107.501mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Arf Arf Arf
 Team Baarf
Cooper T81 (Maserati) F1 1966 8 +5.065
111.254mph
12 +32.127
96.106mph
4 1:44.793
107.120mph
Disco
Firestone  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 9 +5.861
110.383mph
13 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
MagicArsouille
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 14 ---
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Goodyear  
UKGPL 3
 
Honda RA273 F1 1966 11 15 ---
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Goodyear  
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« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2013, 11:03:09 PM +0000 »

JR's set ups are easy peasy to drive   http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=7722

, also try Steve Cloyds stuff from GPL Addicts !
Arf - John Roberts built the default set ups for the F2. If you like those his '66 ones will probably be fine.
I did try the Cooper 3.0L & it was a difficult beast.
I built my own set ups for the BT11 2.5L & the BT19 3.0L. I am happy to share them - send me a PM with an e-mail address & I will send them.
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« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2013, 11:23:45 PM +0000 »

Not a bad outing for the 'Herd'. Check out our web presence here and you'll understand that with machinery like that the other teams have no chance...

LOL, but Penelope Pitstop is missing Shocked

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Clive couldn't get in to the girdle Wink
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« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2013, 08:17:32 AM +0000 »

It's true! that girdle was so loose it kept falling to my ankles!!...would I lie to you!!!  Roll Eyes


Penelope's Ferrari ( it must be a Fezza 'cos it's red) is being prepared by the Blue Moose boffins and is not yet quite ready for the new season.
There appears to be a problem with the on board wi-fi connection for the eye pad? whatever that is whistling
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« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2013, 10:13:30 AM +0000 »

Tthere were some comments about the 66's last night from Arf and Ronnie. Maybe I can help...probably not, but anyway you are going to get it!

Generally I find the 2 litre cars very much like the 65's, but the 3 litre beasts are a law unto themselves.
 
The only common ground seems to be the total lack of torque at low revs for all cars ( except maybe the 2.7 and 3.0 litre Brabs which seem slightly better).
 This I find is the biggest headache when developing a setup. You need a 1st gear that is low enough to punch off the grid and out of those slow corners, but this often means that the other gear ratios now have to be spread out so that you do not run out of revs in top gear. With the narrow rev range in which they can deliver the power the timing of gear changes is critical, as you need to hit max revs in one gear so that when you move up a gear and the revs drop you do not hit a dead spot. Only trial and error will tell you when you have it right.
So, once you have got the ratios somewhere near workable.. The 2 litre cars I set up similar to a 65. They are not quite as sure footed as the 65's and the extra horsepower when the engine is "on song" can make things a little exciting if you are not careful. The go pedal needs to be applied with some care out of medium speed corners to avoid the tail breaking away. I run roll bars maybe front 15-20lbs higher than rear and bump rebounds at 3 all round. Diff settings might be a bit radical for some, I think I ran 45/60 with 3 clutches. Brake balance was around 53%, but I left foot brake so that might need some tweaking if you use your right foot.

In last nights race I was able to keep my 2 litre Brab BRM on the tail of Tristan's 2.7 litre Brabham for the whole race, even managing to get alongside occasionally. Tris had much more power on the straights and could pull a gap, but I could close up under braking and through the corners. It was a great race as I was looking for a mistake from Tris to steal the lead, but it did not happen.

For the 3 litre race I chose the Eagle ( mainly because I had a setup from somewhere else and I love the engine note lol) I expected to be outgunned on the straights again, but was hoping that the handling would pull me back through the corners. Probably that was a big ask for the Eagle around Imola, but it was a fun race and I was looking for some close racing.
For the Eagle with less BHP, 1st gear is critical, but the power band from that lovely V12 is quite good, so the gears can be reasonably spread although I tend to make 4th and 5th quite close as the grunt drops off at the top end of the rev range. Compared to the Lotus 43, BRM etc which are like pendulums with their tails likely to overtake the front wheels at any moment, the Eagle feels nicely balanced and with my setup I can get the power down early out of the corners.
Again roll bars were about 10-15 higher at front, bump/ rebound 3 all round but front bump might have been 2 to aid turn in. Diff was 60/60 with 3 clutches and brake bias at about 52%.

I am a firm believer that a setup has to suit your driving style in order to extract the best times, so what I suggest here may not suit your needs. I know that JR did the defaults and for the 66's, and for drivers with a similar style they will work fine. But I cannot get them to work for me, so I have to start from scratch and develop my own.

After many years driving only one make of car, I now have a huge choice of projectiles to play with and very few setups that work as I want. I am sure that it something to do with the colour of the car but I cannot find where I change that in setups!! Undecided So prepare to see some interesting cornering techniques as things develop with Blue Moose. lol

I will share my setups with anyone who wants them, just drop me a PM.



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« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2013, 10:47:02 AM +0000 »

I will share my setups with anyone who wants them, just drop me a PM.

But, of course, you have to join Blue Moose first  Grin
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« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2013, 01:45:19 PM +0000 »

 Smiley hi

race 1 was good fun and fight with Evil ....thx mate !....
race 2.....I was in the garage to do little adjustments  to the gearbox .....and miss the start :/ ...so I have to wake up and ....Banzaî !....  ..... " it's the last lap and I try to attack Ronnie on the left but the door is close...on the right but he goes also to the right and the roopm was not big and I put a wheel in the grass and lost the car :/....... .....Ican finish third ....

 thx all .... if you want my setups imola66 just tel me Smiley
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« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2013, 09:49:19 AM +0000 »

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race 2.....I was in the garage to do little adjustments  to the gearbox .....and miss the start :/ ...so I have to wake up and ....Banzaî !.... 


So that's why you came so quick behind and past me in your fast Brabham.
All in all it was a good event on a special track.
Congratulations to the Podium and to all Finishers as well!

So long
Andreas
 
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« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2013, 10:30:11 PM +0000 »

....and with answers come more questions....

.....Blue Moose?

I must have missed the post that announced that announced the demise of Hikiwaza, but I feel I have to ask where you got Blue Moose from?

Thanks for all your comments on 66 setups. I'm on holiday now, but I'll have a go at them when I get back, and PMs will follow.

Cheers

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« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2013, 11:57:12 PM +0000 »

Blue Moose? Think about it... drinks might be a clue... and we have got wind, not wings Wink
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