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January 15, 2013, 09:37:06 PM +0000 - Watkins Glen (Classic) - UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Historic Trophy (66)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Artiglietti
 
BRM P261 (1966) F1 1966 2 +0.248
122.467mph
1 49:22.980
120.176mph
43 1:07.899
121.960mph
Goodyear  
Al Heller
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT11 (BRM V8) F1 1966 6 +1.328
120.541mph
2 +47.993
118.261mph
43 1:08.686
120.562mph
Goodyear  
AnGex
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 7 +1.344
120.513mph
3 +49.672
118.195mph
43 1:08.797
120.368mph
Goodyear  
Ronniepeterson
 Clark-Hill Racing
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 9 +1.772
119.767mph
4 +1L
116.342mph
42 1:09.463
119.214mph
Firestone  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 17 +3.908
116.178mph
5 +40.797
114.776mph
42 1:09.690
118.825mph
Goodyear  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.5) F1 1966 13 +3.067
117.565mph
6 +42.524
114.711mph
42 1:10.557
117.365mph
Goodyear  
PaulV
 Blue Moose Racing
BRM P261 (1966) F1 1966 15 +3.418
116.982mph
7 +2L
114.407mph
41 1:10.791
116.977mph
Goodyear  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.5) F1 1966 12 +2.900
117.845mph
8 +35.493
113.055mph
41 1:10.959
116.700mph
Goodyear  
BadBlood
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 14 +3.230
117.294mph
9 +24L
113.363mph
19 1:10.826
116.920mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Adam Cooper
 Team Coyote
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.5) F1 1966 16 +3.439
116.948mph
10 +40.025
110.186mph
19 1:11.662
115.556mph
Disco
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT11 (BRM V8) F1 1966 4 +0.694
121.664mph
11 +59.948
108.670mph
19 1:10.985
116.658mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Pierre D
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1966) F1 1966 19 12 +37L
96.745mph
6 1:15.840
109.190mph
Disco
Firestone  
kinghiro
 Clark-Hill Racing
BRM P261 (1966) F1 1966 10 +1.884
119.573mph
13 +39L
101.552mph
4 1:15.427
109.787mph
Disco
Goodyear  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 8 +1.651
119.977mph
14 +41L
109.042mph
2 1:11.444
115.908mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Hristo Itchov
 
BRM P261 (1966) F1 1966 1 1:07.370
122.917mph
15 +43L
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0 ---
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Disco
Goodyear  
Flow
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 3 +0.489
122.032mph
16
---
0 ---
---
Disco
Goodyear  
MagicArsouille
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 5 +0.812
121.453mph
17
---
0 ---
---
Disco
Goodyear  
il_lupo_mannaro
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 11 +2.483
118.548mph
18
---
0 ---
---
Disco
Firestone  
Clutch4
 Mountside Racing
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 20 19
---
0 ---
---
Disco
Firestone  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 18 20 DNS ---
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Goodyear  

Moderator's Report

19 drivers at the start !
It should have been a very exciting race, unfortunately there was a carnage at the Loop during the 1st lap and almost all cars were more or less affected !


After reviewed the replay of the 1st lap, it is very difficult to find the responsibilities !

That's why, and also because it was the 1st season24 race, I decided to only give penalties/cautions to some drivers.



I also found something very funny : Evil Clive's car was out after the 1st lap accidents...but he can say a very big thank to Dave Curtis !
Just have a look at the replay.



Server replay time: 0h00m15s

Dave Curtis did a marginal rear end shunt against King Hiro at the start.


Server replay time: 0h01m10s

Colin/Hristo did a marginal rear end shunt against Attilio.

Of course, Attilio braked early but it was on the 1st lap and he was on the wrong side of the track (because Florian G. was on the left side and was very fast ...too fast !).
Hristo should have been more cautious in such a situation.


Server replay time: 0h01m11s

Quite the same incident between Tristan and Hristo.
Tristan should have been more cautious on the 1st lap.

Simple rear end shunt reduced to a warning due to the circumstances


Server replay time: 0h01m20s

Again at the Loop during 1st lap, Billy was completely ignoring King Hiro who was overtaking him.

Simple side by side contact reduced to a warning due to circumstances.


Server replay time: 0h01m20s

Dave Rainier : Inconsiderate Bad Rejoin after "the Loop tragedy", no contact but Paul "Badblood" has to brake hard to avoid him.

only caution due to circumstances at the Loop


Server replay time: 0h01m30s

What were you trying to do, Pierre ?
After you spun due to the Loop general accident, 3 times you collided with Adam Cooper.

Hopefully Adam's car could resist at these 3 assaults !

caution for Paul, due to circumstances.

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« on: January 10, 2013, 06:19:56 PM +0000 »

Season 24 Historics (66) - Round 1 - Watkins Glen

The first round of the season will be in the USA, a Papyrus original to get us off to an easy start with none of the potential complications of an add-on track.

Watkins Glen International ("The Glen") is an auto race track located near Watkins Glen, New York, at the southern tip of Seneca Lake. It was long known around the world as the home of the United States Grand Prix, which it hosted for 20 consecutive years (1961–1980). In the early years races passed through the heart of the town with spectators lining the sidewalks, but after a car left the road in a 1952 race, killing one spectator and injuring several others, the race was moved to a new location on a wooded hilltop southwest of town. Later a permanent race course was constructed on 550 acres, overlapping part of the previous course. Despite improvements, the circuit became unable to safely handle the increasingly faster and stiffer ground effect cars of the late 70s and a few horrendous, sometimes fatal accidents and increasingly rowdy segments of the crowd began to tarnish its image. Finally, in May, 1981, several months after Alan Jones had won the 1980 race for Williams, the International Auto Sports Federation removed the race from its schedule because the track had failed to pay its debts to the teams.

Race List = IGOR
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IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = 15-01-2013
Race Time = race starts at 21:30 UK time
Qualifying Time = Between 30 and 60 minutes, starting no later than 21:00 UK time
Track = Watkins Glen
Variant = 67F1
Damage Model = PRO
Race length = 50 minutes (laps 43)
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Replays Available here
Driver lists and rules can be found on the Historic Trophy
The track can be downloaded from : original Papyrus track

The full time drivers can start to practice as soon as the server is available.  Reserve drivers can also join as soon as the server becomes available but must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 5 minutes; this will allow any remaining full timers to join.  If there is enough space on the grid, the reserve drivers will be able to rejoin when there are 30 mins of qualifying left.  

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

The race will be run under PRO rules so no resets are allowed.

For THIS RACE, ONLY 2 liters car could be selected

Moderating The red zone will be fully moderated for lap 1 only. For this event the red zone will be from the start line to the exit of The Loop. Other moderation will be on reported incidents only.  However any incidents that occur in the red zone that are not reported by the drivers will be reported by the moderator.  This will allow all affected drivers the opportunity to present their case before the incident is moderated.  This should ensure there are no surprises when the moderator's report is published and hence appeals will be less likely.  If you haven't received a PM about an incident before the link below the results table is removed, you can be sure that you will not appear in the moderator's report.
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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2013, 06:30:17 PM +0000 »

Unfortunately I'm on Dad's taxi duties again tonight so I can't make this race.  However there are plenty of people registered so hopefully there will be a full grid.

Good luck on starting the server David.
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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2013, 09:37:31 PM +0000 »

You know when I say "careful" before the start I don't mean literally stopping before a corner, Art...
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« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2013, 09:43:23 PM +0000 »

Dodged the lap 1 meele suprised to find myself in P2 with ronnie starting to give me close attention , thought I would let him through at the esses and follow in the tow , make life easy , bad mistake  Sad 
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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2013, 09:59:40 PM +0000 »

Short lived fun. I went rightside down the straight to hold inner line , but had no intentions  passing the car who was in front. I braked early , but the car up front braked earlier. I glued the inner line but I just guess the car in front didn t expect a pass..Neither did I actually. Irritating cause the car behind me was so far behind I didn t really need to hold that line as planned( I hate to be forced to hold outer line in the dipper).Anyway it was the mess in front of me who took me out, Even though I managed a full stop to go round . Someone behind maybe got me.
Nice to be back thouhg Gl to the rest of you.
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« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2013, 10:00:29 PM +0000 »

Difficult on lap 1... Settled down and started to catched who settled down and then I watched Billy drive away  Grin

Concentration got me. Slid wide at T2 and the hay bale ate my REAR tyre Sad

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« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2013, 10:06:08 PM +0000 »

I couldn't connect through IGOR.
I couldn't connect direct.
I go back to Gem+ and, finally, I connect...  with the wrong car.
I come back with 7mn left to qualify.
I don't find my setups .
I screw up the last laps of a few drivers. Sorry, guys.
On the grid, I realize I came in with the wrong name. That explains the setup problem .
I start at the back without having completed one single lap.
I join the party at the loop but no damage. I lose lots of time though.
When I realize after a few laps that I never get more than 19fps, I quit.
There are days like that .
I'll be back !
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« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2013, 10:09:17 PM +0000 »

I backed off slightly as we approached The Loop on Lap 1. There were 5 cars in front spread across the track and it looked like it might get messy!!
I was right!!  So I slowed even more and thought I had found a clear route through the carnage. Unfortunately the traffic arriving from the rear thought otherwise and I was punted into the fence. When the smoke cleared and vision was restored I still had 4 wheels, so I thought I would continue.

Ye, I had 4 wheels, but one (or more) of them was not pointing in the right direction and the car handles like a Glasgow Docker 6 hours after being paid!! I struggled on for a while but I could not lap faster than 1:11 and was just "in the way" of the faster cars so I quit.

Shame as the qually times looked good for a close race.

Grats to those who made it to the podium and to the others who survived and finished.
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« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2013, 10:12:19 PM +0000 »

Bad luck Pierre.

LOL Clive, I was quite pleased with 1:11...
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« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2013, 10:41:07 PM +0000 »

Dodged the lap 1 meele suprised to find myself in P2 with ronnie starting to give me close attention , thought I would let him through at the esses and follow in the tow , make life easy , bad mistake  Sad 

A bit of a messy race even for some of us that finished. Just managed to avoid the mayhem at the start myself. But I still manged a few pirouettes in the middle of the track during the race. Apologies to anyone nearby who got caught out. Sorry if that included you Bernie. Grats to Art, Al and Andreas.
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« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2013, 10:51:06 PM +0000 »

My first championship start in the 66's & I really do like this mod.
My finish position was rather flattered by the early retirements at the top of the field.
Had an extended battle trying to catch Paul Villiers - got within touching distance & span. Last few laps I had Rainier glued to my tail pipe. I think he had enough slipstream to pass me into the Loop although I braked a bit early - really don't want two Black Night cars in the ditch.
Paul V got a little confused on the last lap & let us both through - I think on the tail of some faster lapping cars. Bad luck Paul - solid race & you deserved 5th.
Will try & do as many of the 66 races as I can.
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« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2013, 11:03:54 PM +0000 »

Thanks for the loan of your mechanic Billy!  Shame I then threw the steering out somewhat whilst turning Clive shiny-side up again at the loop.
(& before that, apologies KH for the nudge from the start - squeezing the clutch was not as effective as the brake as intended...)

Then was 40-odd laps of aiming at 10'o'clock to get something vaguely-resembling straight ahead (albeit it with the juddering/unintentional weaving). This improved after a few laps however & was then just handling like a rowboat on some mild whitewater!     I don't know these cars, but 1:11 was the best I could then muster.


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« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2013, 12:18:18 AM +0000 »

You know when I say "careful" before the start I don't mean literally stopping before a corner, Art...

No H, by that it is usually meant 'avoid approaching the first corner in tight clusters of four or more'  Grin, especially if it is one of the corners I am sure we all can recall having accidents at, with some help from others or even all by ourselves.

I am sorry guys for the melee on L1, approaching the Loop I knew I had someone (Florian) on my left although I couldnt see him, braked at my chosen spot for the full tank/inside line combo, but the car had a wobble, and to avoid spinning or drifting into the car on the outside I had to lose even more speed, which caught out first Hristo and then Tristan. Sorry to see so many being wiped off. Cant see much fault on my side, but I guess it will be moderated anyway being in the red zone. Certainly, if you decide to approach the Loop in close company of other 3 cars, you are at least gambling on everyone going through smoothly, which is often not the case...

Royal boredom ensued for me, as everyone was left way behind from the outset; but a win's a win, so I courageously soldiered on  Grin Grin. See you soon.
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« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2013, 02:28:31 AM +0000 »

Art, it is something I noticed in general in your starts and first corners, you leave way too much room and slow down way too much, losing positions and creating bottlenecks in the process. I was already lifting up earlier and braking earlier for The Loop, to give an indication for the car behind, but even though you had plenty of room and was actually on the inside and still in the lead, you kept on slowing down much more than necessary to make the corner, and then of course your car wobbled, which is normal to happen when you brake hard over the transition in the road downward into the corner.

I don't think it's anyone's fault, however considering the pace we normally have at the front, that sequence of actions was subpar. It simply doesn't match the level of pace and control that otherwise produce such fast lap times. See you at the next race.
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« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2013, 09:06:32 AM +0000 »

Bad luck Pierre.

LOL Clive, I was quite pleased with 1:11...

Well done Paul. At least one of the Blue Moose new boys got some points  Undecided  My season has not started too well...again!

I did discover one thing about my ongoing computer probs last night. I suspected that my AV might have something to do with my temporary blackouts, so I used "End it All" before the race to make sure that I had nothing running except GPL and Igor.
Everything ran smoothly through qually with no problems. "AHA! I thought" that has cracked that little problem.

But, just towards the end of qually I noticed the sound was beginning to deteriorate again. Off the grid it was slightly worse, but after the melee at The Loop it had once again layered every car engine,skid,crash and bang sound into one dreadful wall of horrible noise!! It was so bad that I had to turn the sound off completely and drive on instruments ( That did not make much difference as the car was screwed anyway after being duffed up at the Loop).

So, it seems that the AV is likely to be responsible for the blackouts ( turn off AV before racing is easy).
But the sound issue will need some deep investigation, as all the sound software was apparently left running. What is strange is that it seems to be something that controls which sound(s) should be played? Surely that is within GPL? and if the sound card is working and it starts correctly....what the hell is it that gradually screws the whole show?? As I said in a previous post, it seems as if each sound that GPL calls up, is played in a continuous loop on top of the previous sound, so that you end up with everything that GPL has to offer in a huge cacophony.......bizarre!
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