UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Watkins Glen - Jan 15

[Hristo Itchov]

What I'm saying is it's a racing incident, so I don't understand why it is moderated by blaming myself and Tristan for a "rearend shunt". Rearend shunt means the responsibility is in a particular driver alone, which wasn't the case here. It was ourselves being caught out by your mistake, otherwise nothing would have happened. I put as much buffer as necessary and slowed down as much as necessary, but you can't predict mistakes all the time, plus it was a chain reaction that intensified the outcome.

[AnGex]

Well done David, thanks for your hard work 

That´s what I say,too!

[Rainier]

Well done David, thanks for your hard work 

That´s what I say,too!

Thanks Bernie and Andreas 

[Rainier]

Considering the amount of work the modo has to face, I'm not asking for any official change in the sanctions but after watching the replay from both the TV1 and TV2 cameras, it is clear that it is Cooper who's hitting me several times and not the opposite.
The most amazing thing as far far as I'm concerned is the fact that he's not even on the long list of penalized drivers. 

I will review the replay a second time (as I did after Hristo comments).

Does it have anything to do with the fact that the 1st car I hit in the stampede is the moderator's ? 

Even if it is supposed to be funny, I don't really appreciate this kind of remark.

[Hristo Itchov]

I will review the replay a second time (as I did after Hristo comments).

Thanks, Dave. What's done is done for this race, but my comments are intended to raise a point which has been an issue in the last couple of season and was not an issue in all the seasons prior to that. The point is, most accidents are rarely the responsibility of a single driver, regardless of whether the driver is behind or in front. Unless it's a blatant rearend where you just forget to brake, there are always other circumstances which split the responsibility between drivers. So I hope this strong agenda (not yours in particular but UKGPL in general) to always aim to blame and penalize someone for an accident is reconsidered for future races.

[BadBlood]

That is, I think, a very fair point H. It is often the interactions of two (or more) drivers that end up causing problems. The penalties are to try and encourage drivers to drive in a manner that avoids incidents - if we drove in real life like we do on track, we'd all be dead! 

[Hristo Itchov]

That is, I think, a very fair point H. It is often the interactions of two (or more) drivers that end up causing problems. The penalties are to try and encourage drivers to drive in a manner that avoids incidents - if we drove in real life like we do on track, we'd all be dead! 

True, but since nobody drives to cause accidents intentionally (from the people I know anyway), we have to be careful not to turn racing into a parade. If someone is overly cautious and this causes an accident, you can't just point the finger only at those who are less cautious. It's a balancing act and you can't predict unreasonable amount of cautiousness. Predictability is key, so moderators should aim to recognize when an accident has happened because someone did something beyond predictable and not because another driver was not cautious. I believe most of us are already quite cautious since Pro damage and no shift-r has taught us that. I can't say the same for divisions that run on Int and allow resets, with a recent memory of the Jops Siffert F2 race carnage serving as prime example.