Quarterly cost: £0
 
nonchalant-unilinear
May 26, 2019, 03:10:38 PM +0100 *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

Login with username, password and session length
Series
S3455F1
S3466F1
S3467F1P
S3467F1W
S3469xF1
S34JSMT
Recent
S3455F1 Monza (Full 10…
S3466F1 Montlhéry (GP…
S3467F1P Buenos Aires …
S3467F1W Buenos Aires …
S3469xF1 Montjuïc Park
Forthcoming
S3455F1 Bremgarten
S3466F1 Sachsenring
S3467F1W Kyalami (1961…
S3467F1P Kyalami (1961…
S3469xF1 Bathurst
S3455F1 Silverstone (G…
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register     LM2 Replays Rules Links Circuits Teams  
Linked Events
  • S24Nov Kyalami: January 22, 2013
January 22, 2013, 09:37:28 PM +0000 - Kyalami (1961-67) - UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Novices Trophy (65)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
JonnyO
 Team Coyote
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 2 +0.449
108.001mph
1 40:07.009
106.500mph
28 1:24.973
107.743mph
Dunlop  
Johnny.P
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 4 +0.966
107.346mph
3 +16.919
105.757mph
28 1:25.180
107.481mph
Goodyear  
Geoff65
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 3 +0.890
107.442mph
4 +22.306
105.522mph
28 1:25.438
107.156mph
Goodyear  
Andy Miller
 
Honda RA272 F1 1965 6 +1.145
107.121mph
5 +27.090
105.315mph
28 1:25.643
106.900mph
Goodyear  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 8 +1.641
106.503mph
6 +50.656
104.305mph
28 1:25.382
107.227mph
Goodyear  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 9 +1.672
106.465mph
7 +52.982
104.206mph
28 1:26.791
105.486mph
Dunlop  
Ross Hawkey
 
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 13 +2.665
105.250mph
8 +53.854
104.169mph
28 1:26.309
106.075mph
Dunlop  
Roberto Vianna
 
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 10 +1.718
106.408mph
9 +59.805
103.918mph
28 1:26.233
106.169mph
Dunlop  
happyal
 Clark-Hill Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 7 +1.423
106.774mph
10 +1:15.039
103.280mph
28 1:26.153
106.267mph
Dunlop  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 17 +4.415
103.174mph
11 +1:19.324
103.102mph
28 1:26.434
105.922mph
Goodyear  
PaulV
 Blue Moose Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 12 +2.619
105.305mph
12 +1L
102.254mph
27 1:27.193
105.000mph
Dunlop  
Nigel Smith
 Blue Moose Racing
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 16 +3.987
103.674mph
13 +1:08.788
99.424mph
27 1:26.911
105.340mph
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 18 +4.753
102.782mph
14 +2L
96.157mph
26 1:30.108
101.603mph
Goodyear  
Boggy
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 15 +3.219
104.583mph
15 +3L
94.987mph
25 1:28.148
103.862mph
Disco
Goodyear  
il_lupo_mannaro
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 5 +1.069
107.217mph
16 +7L
102.099mph
21 1:25.950
106.518mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 11 +2.281
105.716mph
17 +19L
94.814mph
9 1:27.251
104.930mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Adam Cooper
 Team Coyote
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 14 +2.940
104.918mph
18 +21L
96.695mph
7 1:27.544
104.579mph
Disco
Goodyear  
IvanLeonov65
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 19 +23.350
85.030mph
19 +27L
71.496mph
1 1:58.807
77.060mph
accident
Goodyear  
UKGPL 3
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 20 20 DNS ---
---
Dunlop  
Giovani
 Team Coyote
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 1 1:24.321
108.576mph
Excluded +0L
106.343mph
28 1:24.651
108.153mph
Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

First race of the season and a full grid. So were we all good and everybody got through the Red Zone cleanly?

Errr... not quite.

I could have penalised the entire field just about but I have chosen to be extremely lenient as this was very difficult for Novices to deal with. The point of penalties is to improve driving.

If people will not or can not improve, they WILL be penalised.


Server replay time: 0

Giovani blows his engine and makes a Pit stop and resets in the pits. He does not take an additional stop and go for resetting, which he should do. You CANNOT take your stop and go before you reset.

To compound the error he drives into the pit THROUGH the pit wall, which was specifically mentioned in the race post.

The pit at Kyalami is very difficult to enter at high speed and not having the wall in place gives a definite advantage.

Unfortunately both of these are penalised by disqualification.

I must apologise for publishing this late. I had forgotten to add the incident before publishing.


Server replay time: 0h01m01s

Fabio gets too close to the back of JohnnyP and taps him. Johnny helps cause this by changing his line under braking having got too close to JonnyO. I cannot stress enough that racing hard into T1 is a recipe for disaster in the mid-field. It was just all too tight and carnage ensues. Al is left nowehere to go and is one of many innocent victims!

Paul V finds anovel way to avoid the jam by spinning on the kerb at Crowthorne, crossing the track and re-joining on the other side! Amazing!

Boggy slows but is biffed by Adam who then rejoins into Billy. Boggy having done the right thing unfortunately then blots his copy book by joining right in front of Bernie.

Bernie is late through after being tagged by Ivan. Ivan then goes on to side swipe another driver and narrowly gets away with an ill-judged rejoin in front of Nigel.

After a cracking start Nigel is a bit too keen to get on the gas out of Crowthorne and inspects Rog's exhaust a bit too closely. Unfortunately for Nigel he is launched skyward by Roberto.

Once Mr Smith starts off again, he does well to avoid Boggy who literally disappears in front of him.

Tony shows everyone how it should be done by slowing and weaving through!

ALL the drivers mentioned could have been penalised - please be more careful at T1. Losing a second on the first lap will not lose you the race but it might mean somebody else's race isn't ruined.


Server replay time: 0h08m30s

Roberto is caught out by Billy having an earlier braking point. It is the responsibility of the driver behind to ensure that they do not hit the man in front. Having track position allows a driver to control the pace and the driver behind MUST ensure that they do not plough into them.

In the spirit of this moderation, the penalty is ameliorated.

Pages: [1] 2 3 ... 5
  Print  
Author Topic: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Novices Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Jan 22  (Read 12466 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
BadBlood
Former UKGPL Moderators
Hero Member
**
Posts: 6079


Sassafrassarassum Rick Rastardly!


View Profile WWW
« on: January 18, 2013, 12:57:33 PM +0000 »

UKGPL Season 24 65 Novices Trophy
Race 1 Kyalami

Welcome to the opening round of the Novices Trophy for Season 24.

We start at 'our home' which is the English translation of the Zulu word 'Kyalami'. One of the original Papy tracks and therefore fairly well known, but not without difficulty. Usually sees some close racing.

The original, sweeping circuit was in use from 1961 until political sanctions eliminated the Grand Prix after the 1985 race. A very quick circuit, it yielded some memorable races. Gilles Villeneuve outfoxed team mate and home driver Jody Scheckter in a wet/dry race in 1979, and Alain Prost raced from the back to win in 1982. By the time the circuit held its last Grand Prix in its original incarnation cars were lapping the track in 1m 02s – 20 seconds faster than in 1967. But the politics of racing in Apartheid South Africa where racial segregation was practised put pressure on F1 to leave the country. Luckily we get to race without any of that and a lap time in the mid 1m 20s should prove very competitive.

*** NOTE***
Ensure that you have the pit wall in place. Those without the pit wall will risk disqualification. Advantage can be gained without it and in particular, drivers should ensure that they know where the pit entry is WITH THE PIT WALL IN PLACE

The standard Papyrus track has a pit wall but there are patches available that remove it. The absence of a pit wall will not stop you from joining the race but anybody seen by the moderators miraculously driving through the pit wall on the server replay will risk disqualification.

Follow these instructions to restore the wall if you have a mod that has removed it:
METHOD 1:
To place a wall between the pits and the track, rename or remove the kyalami.trk and kyalami.3do files from your kyalami folder.
METHOD 2:
To reinstall the original Papyrus Armco, rename or remove the Armco_s.mip file from your kyalami folder.


As with the previous tracks, there will be crashes and patience is a must. The first lap will be fully moderated within the red zone. The red zone will extend to the end of the Leeukop bend on the first lap

Please check the Season 24 pages for details regarding rules and the Novices Trophy pages in particular.

There are NO chassis restrictions for this race.


Race List = iGOR
Server = UKGPL3
IP address = ping ukgpl3.dyndns.org
Race date = 22/01/2013
Time = no later then 9:00pm UK Time (30-45 mins practice, race starts at 9:30pm)
Track = Kyalami (papy)
Variant = 65F1
Damage Model = Int
Qualifying time = 30 minutes
Race length = 28 laps
Password: see above

Qualifying may start before 9pm, if so, Reserve drivers should leave the server when 35 minutes of qualifying remains and only rejoin when 30 minutes of qualifying is left. This is to ensure that Full Time drivers get priority in joining.

Please restrict chat to pit messages if necessary, and this includes the end of the race, until all running drivers have completed the necessary laps.

The Novice races are run under Int Long rules and all incidents in the red zone on Lap 1, at least, will be moderated. For this race, the red zone extends to the last part of the Leeukop Bend. There is no limit on the amount of resets but EACH Shift/R MUST be followed by a Stop n Go. The pit entrance can be tricky here so a little practice may be adviasable. Better still, don't requier a reset!

65 Patch: The 2.02 Release of the 65mod can and should be used. You need a working installation of the 65 mod to install the 2.02 Update. All the 65 Mod files can be found here

Password: see above

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page
Logged

BadBlood

aka

Angel Moose angel
GPLRank +71.5ish Smiley
GPL65Rank +71.1ish Smiley
Other ranks? Middlin' Slowish Wink
Wiltshire Tony
Director, UKGTL
SimRacing.org.uk Staff
Hero Member
****
Posts: 11973


"I'd rather be Sim-Racing" said Noddy


View Profile
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2013, 01:48:56 PM +0000 »

Hurrah
Logged

The only UK based GTL community which races every Wednesday night. We are always looking for new drivers of all ages and abilities. GTL here since 2006.

Geoff65
Former UKGPL Moderators
Full Member
**
Posts: 822


Aussie Paul Hawkins. Sitting in Porsche 910


View Profile WWW
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2013, 02:10:14 PM +0000 »

Ditto, all good here.
Logged

www.clark-hillracing.com

"Racing is life.....anything that happens before or after, is just waiting"
Steve McQueen from "Le Mans"

GPL Rank +15.145 29/3/2012
Wiltshire Tony
Director, UKGTL
SimRacing.org.uk Staff
Hero Member
****
Posts: 11973


"I'd rather be Sim-Racing" said Noddy


View Profile
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2013, 06:22:46 PM +0000 »

No work today (snow u like) so I spent a happy hour or so this afternoon learning GPL's Kyalami and getting my car setup just so. I hope to use the same car throughout this season. Whilst racing I noticed in the top left of the screen five columns of times with rows labelled I, B, L & C. I know I'm going to kick myself for asking but what do these mean?

Also "and a lap time in the mid 1m 20s should prove very competitive." Oh lordy, my best time is only 1:32 and in my offline race Jim Clark could only manage 1:25.

EDIT: And my in car sound volume decreases when a lot of cars are on screen like at the start. Is this normal?
« Last Edit: January 18, 2013, 06:27:51 PM +0000 by Wiltshire Tony » Logged

The only UK based GTL community which races every Wednesday night. We are always looking for new drivers of all ages and abilities. GTL here since 2006.

Cookie
UKGPL Divisional Moderator
UKGPL Moderators
Hero Member
****
Posts: 4129


Chris Amon fan


View Profile
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2013, 06:57:29 PM +0000 »

I = ideal time
B = best
L = last
C = current lap
Logged

Axel "Cookie"

Poor man, not seeing the stars without being hit in the face.
My translation of an aphorism of  Stanislaus Jercy Lec
Johnny.P
Full Member
***
Posts: 255


View Profile
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2013, 09:04:29 PM +0000 »

Prib will let you show less info if you find it a touch confusing--- like i do. I use the old prib display of just 2 rows of figures- best and current I think.
Logged
BadBlood
Former UKGPL Moderators
Hero Member
**
Posts: 6079


Sassafrassarassum Rick Rastardly!


View Profile WWW
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2013, 12:47:12 AM +0000 »

No work today (snow u like) so I spent a happy hour or so this afternoon learning GPL's Kyalami and getting my car setup just so. I hope to use the same car throughout this season. Whilst racing I noticed in the top left of the screen five columns of times with rows labelled I, B, L & C. I know I'm going to kick myself for asking but what do these mean?

Also "and a lap time in the mid 1m 20s should prove very competitive." Oh lordy, my best time is only 1:32 and in my offline race Jim Clark could only manage 1:25.

EDIT: And my in car sound volume decreases when a lot of cars are on screen like at the start. Is this normal?

I have been at this for five years Tony and my best is 1:27 something and I would expect to average 1:29-1:30 in the race. That will be mid-field I suspect. Your lap times will come down very quickly but you might want to look at your gearing - what top speed are you getting as you come down the hill to Crowthorne?

BTW I am unsure about the volume thing but as long as you can hear the other cars that should be OK. In your options screen make sure that the number of sounds is set to the maximum (16 I think).

When I say mid 1:20s I mean 1:25-1:26... lol - NOT 1:20.x!!!
« Last Edit: January 21, 2013, 12:15:50 AM +0000 by BadBlood » Logged

BadBlood

aka

Angel Moose angel
GPLRank +71.5ish Smiley
GPL65Rank +71.1ish Smiley
Other ranks? Middlin' Slowish Wink
philippe GIRARD
UKGPL Divisional Moderator
UKGPL Moderators
Jr. Member
****
Posts: 135



View Profile
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2013, 09:14:19 PM +0000 »

I did not have been able to join the server, full server!
I was not yet reservist.
I do not understand.  Huh Huh
I was well prepared my race, but for nothing.
good luck to the participants!
Logged

"Kickstart my heart" : the best Mötley Crüe song !
BadBlood
Former UKGPL Moderators
Hero Member
**
Posts: 6079


Sassafrassarassum Rick Rastardly!


View Profile WWW
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2013, 09:36:31 PM +0000 »

Well, I was well prepared and got a 1:26.8 and found myself in 11th! The top guys really are too fast for the Novices.

Phillipe and myself missed out and Rainier went to the Pros.

Not a happy Chief Mod at the moment. Sad
Logged

BadBlood

aka

Angel Moose angel
GPLRank +71.5ish Smiley
GPL65Rank +71.1ish Smiley
Other ranks? Middlin' Slowish Wink
Billy Nobrakes
UKGPL Divisional Moderator
UKGPL Moderators
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 2552



View Profile
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2013, 10:02:12 PM +0000 »

Wish I hadn't bothered.
Logged
bernie
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 2654


View Profile
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2013, 10:30:31 PM +0000 »

This isnt good with the track being oversubscribed , I joined late due to a small domestic problem only to find the grid full , tried a few times and luckily sneeked on to the server when dave left . No time for qually , started from almost the back of the grid ,so far back couldnt see the flag , took it easy into T1 for the expected log jam only to get rear ended , recovered then someone else did a spin turn right in front of me , by the time I gathered it up the race was gone  .

We need to get the Int's back on track please , surely we could sort something out for moderating , how about a few of us take turns about, I'd be up for doing a couple of races , maybe more at a push. Need volunteers though dont know what's involved , how much time , etc.

Just how hard can it be to start an argument  Undecided
 
Logged
Hristo Itchov
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 3691


There is no limit!


View Profile WWW
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2013, 10:31:54 PM +0000 »

It seems there are a lot more Novices drivers now than the server can hold yet we're not running full grid in Pro's, so perhaps some should switch over? Or as Bernie says, bring Int back somehow...
Logged

"If in doubt - flat out" - Colin McRae (1968-2007)
My Grand Prix Legends Blog
Base setups and tutorial for 65 mod cars
JonnyO
Jr. Member
**
Posts: 179



View Profile
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2013, 10:44:46 PM +0000 »

 I can go on pro.
Logged
PaulV
Jr. Member
**
Posts: 104


View Profile
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2013, 10:50:06 PM +0000 »

all I can say, is Im not even good enough to be a "novice"

Im no where near fast enuf  Undecided

really consistent showing for me.. started near the back, finished near the back. oh and was lapped again.

all this doing 1:26 - 1:28's

how good am I going to have to get ?

had a good time though.  had a few decent laps in all, and saw very little trouble other than the usual T1 stuff.  missed it all (luckily, even tho I spun off) but did take a tiny little nudge from behind but other than having to rejoin from the grass, not a bad race in all.

a few points for Blue Moose Racing, perhaps ?

Paul V.
 
« Last Edit: January 22, 2013, 11:10:14 PM +0000 by PaulV » Logged
Wiltshire Tony
Director, UKGTL
SimRacing.org.uk Staff
Hero Member
****
Posts: 11973


"I'd rather be Sim-Racing" said Noddy


View Profile
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2013, 11:11:32 PM +0000 »

Where can I get a replay?
Logged

The only UK based GTL community which races every Wednesday night. We are always looking for new drivers of all ages and abilities. GTL here since 2006.

Pages: [1] 2 3 ... 5
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Hosted by DaveGymer.com
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
Page created in 0.826 seconds with 59 queries.
anything