UKPnG Season 8 Limited Car Challenge - Imola - Mar 14

[Manteos]

Well, I'm really disappointed for John's disco . I would have preferred some close action with him during the race, but... what a pity

When I saw that I was "alone" in first position, the only thing I could do was pushing as fast as I can, until the tires were good. By the lap n° 10 my pace was really worse than the first half of the race, and I've done a couple of small errors. The only thing I should do was to bring my car to the end, and I was succesful in this mission. In the last 2 laps, I reached JPV and another guy that were fighting for the 9th position, and I decided to avoid to interrup their duel, without lapping them, and letting them fighting until the end.

However, it was nice to race again with you chaps, and I hope that won't be necessary 5 months to race again with you... who knows  

Take care chaps See you

[Mark J]

The lobby/connection seemed unusually bad last night with lots of folks dropping in and out during praccy & qual I noticed, not sure why?  Considering it was a stock track and one car class you would think it more stable. Bad luck for John and Geoffers as I expect they would have given you a harder time upfront Matteo.

Woke up still smiling about my result

[Hotkeys]

Unfortunately I had to skip this one due to my Job-obligations . A damned shame really, I liked the combo, did many laps of practice and was down to a decent laptime.

Looking forward to next race 

Stig

[frex]

Another disaster..    

Confident of being near the sharp end, but just couldn't get the lap done in qually - aborted several after cutting one corner or another.

No matter - start was good and made up several places, only to make contact with Nik who must have gone off at the T1 chicane. I got through that and found myself in P3 although wasn't really comfortable with that at the time as not quite sure what happened there - so I pulled onto the grass in case there was any blame on my part.

A lap or so later someone spun coming out of the second chicane and I couldn't avoid them. Big hit.. Could have hobbled round the rest of the lap for another comedy pitstop but didn't fancy that again after last week. Remainder of the race was good to watch though.

Congrats to podium; comiserations to those with connection problems.

[Animal Ed]

This time I`m happy with result and my driving considering that I was just show up for event without training and setup, actually without touching my steering wheel for more than a week ...
Main reason why I took ultra conservative and safe but slow setup - almost default except gear ratios and lifting front end for one click, medium tires ... and that was mistake but I learned the lection for next time.

Start!? I don`t think that my start was something special but I did gain 4 or 5 positions `till the Tamburello than avoided scrap in front of me heading to the Villeneuve 3rd!??! But just before corner frexx overtook me and suddenly slow down in front of me (some kind of problem because he went of in straight part of circut) allowing 2 more cars to pass me. After that it was all the same. I was chasing someone, I was chased by someone and despite I was 3rd again in one moment, 5th place was my designation because there wasn`t speed in me for more than that.

About white lines, I was really trying hard not to abuse but exits from Rivazza and Variante Bassa was too tempting. I didn`t cut chicanes unless I mess up my braking which happened few times in last part of the race  ... I think that I have about 5 laps out of 19 totally clean when I was too slow to exploit those extra space  ...

[Alex vV]

Unofficial LapChart

[phspok]

Quite enjoyed that. Had some good tussles with Jarda and JPV, was looking forward to having a good
battle with Clive, but he seemed to be having trouble, and went wide allowing an easy pass.

The 1st corner was a bit messy for some. Someone got a bit over aggressive, not sure,
but there was some banging of bodywork. Later on I lost it and went wide allowing
Massimo and Frex to pass, Massimo lost it in the next chicane and (I think) Frex was unable to avoid
I braked and managed to get round with no contact. Spent the rest of the race being caught and
passed and then catching and passing JPV and Jarda, was some good grown up driving  

@Jarda:  Have you registered ? you don't have to, you can race in the events, but you won't score any
points unless you do.

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=help;page=registering#screen

[Manteos]

I forgot to mention the white line matter in my comment.

I watched the server replay, just to be sure I didn't exploit too much the curbs. I'm satisfied with my driving cause I went over the white lines only a couple of time in the first sector, cutting 2 or 3 times the "Villeneuve" entrance, and exploiting the curb at the exit of the second corner of "variante Tamburello", in which sometimes my internal wheels were outside the white line about a few centimeters.
In the second sector, I cut just a couple of times the first right corner of the "Acque minerali", and my lines were pretty clean in the second right hander, even compared to the other drivers. Especially at the "variante alta" I was surely less "clean" in my driving, but it was really an hard work to stay inside the white line, especially at the exit of the chicane.
The first Rivazza corner was the point in which probably I cutted most, and the same is for the second Rivazza corner, especially at the exit. "Variante bassa" was another point in which I tried to be careful at the white lines, but 4 or 5 times during the race, I surely anticipated too much the entrance in the first left hander.

I've done my best to be "clean" in my driving. I don't know if for the standard of the other drivers I was too "unfair". You have the replay, you can check it and then decide It's not a matter for me if you judge my driving incorrect, but I'm even more sure that with my lines was impossible to gain 3.5/4 seconds per lap. Now it's up to you, I will accept any decision you will take pacefully .

P.S Reading the report of the race I found 3 brave guys with Dunlops... did you read the .pdf "P&G v3 TYRES CHARTS"? In a fourty minutes race, they were surely the worst option. The only advantage of Dunlop is in terms of tire wear, but they have much less grip than GY and Firestone (soft and meds).

See you

[phspok]

I watched some of the replay, and most people, including myself had occasional trips outside
the white lines. It's not so critical here. There are kerbs with kerbs after them, the green kerbs
were put there to be driven on by the circuit designer, so they are going to get used at times
I saw no "cheating" 

[frex]

P.S Reading the report of the race I found 3 brave guys with Dunlops... did you read the .pdf "P&G v3 TYRES CHARTS"? In a fourty minutes race, they were surely the worst option. The only advantage of Dunlop is in terms of tire wear, but they have much less grip than GY and Firestone (soft and meds).

Interesting. I know a couple of the 3.0 RSRs have slightly more power than the others, but wasn't aware that the tyres made much of a difference.

Not that it would have changed my car choice - I don't mind not being in the best car, and anyway have a bit of a thing for Jagermeister liveries ever since lusting after a certain Tamiya 1/12 scale model kit as a kid..

[Nik]

No matter - start was good and made up several places, only to make contact with Nik who must have gone off at the T1 chicane.

I am so sorry mate, I got rammed by Riccardo Genotti in T1 and took me out of the track as I was trying to rejoin the track didn't realize I had suspension damage and lost the back of the car wile joining the track and into u Frex then u into Animal Ed sorry mate, it wont happen again. I don't know how Riccardo managed to ram both me and Alessandro haven't seen anything like it before. It was a ok race managed to climb back to 6th place.

Thanks to Simracing UK for these great races take care guys

[johnw]

Interesting. I know a couple of the 3.0 RSRs have slightly more power than the others, but wasn't aware that the tyres made much of a difference.

Not that it would have changed my car choice - I don't mind not being in the best car, and anyway have a bit of a thing for Jagermeister liveries ever since lusting after a certain Tamiya 1/12 scale model kit as a kid..

Nice I wasn't planning on using one of the higher powered ones originally, but then heard rumours of fast Italians on the practice server so thought I'd need all the help I could get As it was, Matteo was comfortably faster anyway, great pace

Thanks for the lapchart, Alex. Nice to see what I would have had to try and keep up with. I was about half a second slower on the medium tyres, so it probably wouldn't have happened, but would have been fun trying.

[Manteos]

P.S Reading the report of the race I found 3 brave guys with Dunlops... did you read the .pdf "P&G v3 TYRES CHARTS"? In a fourty minutes race, they were surely the worst option. The only advantage of Dunlop is in terms of tire wear, but they have much less grip than GY and Firestone (soft and meds).

Interesting. I know a couple of the 3.0 RSRs have slightly more power than the others, but wasn't aware that the tyres made much of a difference.

Not that it would have changed my car choice - I don't mind not being in the best car, and anyway have a bit of a thing for Jagermeister liveries ever since lusting after a certain Tamiya 1/12 scale model kit as a kid..

In this case, your choice was absolutely justified

However, keep it in your mind for the next races, unless you don't have only models that used to wear dunlop tires when you was a kid

No matter - start was good and made up several places, only to make contact with Nik who must have gone off at the T1 chicane.

I am so sorry mate, I got rammed by Riccardo Genotti in T1 and took me out of the track as I was trying to rejoin the track didn't realize I had suspension damage and lost the back of the car wile joining the track and into u Frex then u into Animal Ed sorry mate, it wont happen again. I don't know how Riccardo managed to ram both me and Alessandro haven't seen anything like it before. It was a ok race managed to climb back to 6th place.

Thanks to Simracing UK for these great races take care guys

Sorry to hear this Nik I'm sure Riccardo did not want to create troubles. I just watched the replay, and this is what happens. Riccardo surely lost the braking point, slightly tapping Alessandro in front of him, than the porsche of Animal Ed tapped Riccardo, pushing his car into you at a very fast speed. I guess that Riccardo should have been more careful, but even Animal Ed was not so cautious cause the cars in front of him (Alessandro Tancioni and Riccardo gengotti) were already in the braking zone, and he has made the same mistake of Riccardo. Unfortunately in this situation you have been the only one to lose something Nik
Evenmore Riccardo suffered a disconnection a couple of seconds later, and could be possible that he had some syncronization problem with the server.

I'm not Riccardo's lawer, but I decided to answer to you in place of a bad Google translation

Sorry again for your race Nik. See you

[frex]

I am so sorry mate...

No problem Nik, and no apology necessary. Despite being lifted off the ground I don't think my car was damaged at all, and I could (and should) have just carried on. Taking to the grass to wait for you just succeded in putting me in Animal Ed's way i think (sorry Ed).

[Nik]

I just watched the replay posted here cuz for some reason in my replay I cant see animal ed, the Riccardo thing makes so much sense now, cuz it seemed weird to me very unrealistic movement but it was all cuz Animal pushed him into both Alessandro and me, Manteos Thanks for pointing this out, maybe cuz of lag my replay didnt get everything in.

Cheers frex I could have been more careful in hindsight