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  • P8GT Hungaroring: March 21, 2013
March 21, 2013, 08:46:26 PM +0000 - Hungaroring (2003-) - UKPnG Season 8 Grand Touring Championship
Driver
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
johnw
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Porsche 911 ST 2.5 (#72069) P&G 70s Gr4 O2L 3 +0.710
79.431mph
1 41:30.150
77.957mph
22 1:51.770
78.946mph
Dunlop  
Clive Loynes
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Ford Capri 2600 RS (#72007) P&G 70s Gr2 O2L 2 +0.661
79.466mph
2 +3.125
77.859mph
22 1:51.961
78.812mph
Goodyear  
Manteos
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Ford Escort RS (#72030) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 4 +1.097
79.155mph
3 +16.367
77.448mph
22 1:51.604
79.064mph
Dunlop  
goldtop
 Kerb Crawlers
Alfa Romeo Giulia 1750 GTAm (#70004) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 8 +3.649
77.384mph
4 +1:01.136
76.089mph
22 1:54.071
77.354mph
Firestone  
Alex vV
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Ford Escort RS (#72024) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 11 +5.292
76.284mph
5 +1:28.621
75.278mph
22 1:55.044
76.700mph
Dunlop  
Animal Ed
 
Porsche 911 ST 2.5 (#72069) P&G 70s Gr4 O2L 10 +4.871
76.563mph
6 +1:30.340
75.228mph
22 1:55.239
76.570mph
Dunlop  
Jarda Zacek
 
Ford Capri 2600 RS (#72003) P&G 70s Gr2 O2L 6 +2.079
78.464mph
7 +1:30.629
75.219mph
22 1:55.596
76.333mph
Dunlop  
frex
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 ST 2.5 (#72025) P&G 70s Gr4 O2L 13 +10.385
73.067mph
8 +1:31.516
75.193mph
22 1:53.130
77.997mph
Dunlop  
Hotkeys
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Alfa Romeo Giulia 2000 GTAm (#71040) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 9 +1:36.244
75.056mph
22 1:54.275
77.216mph
Firestone  
seniordan
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Alfa Romeo Giulia 2000 GTAm (#71041) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 9 +4.280
76.958mph
10 +1L
74.158mph
21 1:55.534
76.374mph
Firestone  
NPP
 Team Oldie Racing
Ford Escort RS (#72024) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 5 +1.110
79.146mph
11 +9L 13 1:51.668
79.018mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Nik
 
Porsche 911 ST 2.5 (#72079) P&G 70s Gr4 O2L 7 +2.682
78.045mph
12 13 1:54.020
77.388mph
unknown
Dunlop  
massimogt italy
 
Alfa Romeo Giulia 2000 GTAm (#72003) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 12 +8.028
74.522mph
13 +13L 9 2:03.038
71.716mph
suspension
Firestone  
Jamera
 Kerb Crawlers
Alfa Romeo Giulia 2000 GTAm (#72003) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 14 +10.757
72.843mph
14 +19L 3 2:01.943
72.360mph
unknown
Firestone  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Ford Escort RS (#72024) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 1 1:50.378
79.942mph
Excluded +0L
78.179mph
22 1:51.116
79.411mph
Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Geoffers admits to multiple track cutting. Replay verifies this. No alternative but to impose the maximum penalty hence a DQ is awarded.

  • Geofferspenalty — Multiple track cutting — excluded

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GTR2
P&G 70s Gr2 U2L
1:50.378
79.942mph
Geoffers
Qualifying
Ford Escort RSMarch 21, 2013, 08:46:26 PM +0000
P8GT
GTR2
P&G 70s Gr2 U2L
1:51.116
79.411mph
Geoffers
Race
Ford Escort RSMarch 21, 2013, 08:46:26 PM +0000
P8GT
GTR2
P&G 70s Gr2 O2L
1:51.039
79.466mph
Clive Loynes
Qualifying
Ford Capri 2600 RSMarch 21, 2013, 08:46:26 PM +0000
P8GT
GTR2
P&G 70s Gr2 O2L
1:51.961
78.812mph
Clive Loynes
Race
Ford Capri 2600 RSMarch 21, 2013, 08:46:26 PM +0000
P8GT
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« Reply #30 on: March 20, 2013, 09:57:44 PM +0000 »

It's the bitter Truth Stig  Grin Grin
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« Reply #31 on: March 21, 2013, 08:48:00 AM +0000 »

Myself and Jules are looking forward to this. Jules is 25% Hungarian so feels at home here, his 50% Welsh heritage accounting for his talent  Wink

We'll both be counting on Italian flare and reliability  laugh
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« Reply #32 on: March 21, 2013, 01:34:59 PM +0000 »

It's the bitter Truth Stig  Grin Grin

If it's any help, John wandered off to look at the 911 so that there would be less chance of his lapping me.  Embarrassed
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« Reply #33 on: March 21, 2013, 02:53:23 PM +0000 »

If it's any help, John wandered off to look at the 911 so that there would be less chance of his lapping me.  Embarrassed

Haven't had time to do any laps in it yet though, has anyone got any reference times, or a setup? I probably won't get much time before quali.

I was dipping into to the 1:48's in the Capri, but have to be careful not to take the p*** at that chicaine.
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« Reply #34 on: March 21, 2013, 04:04:01 PM +0000 »

52s for me in 911, but no consistency. Ended up going a completely different way with setup compared to what i had with at Mallory, and it didn't feel anywhere near as nice as it did there. Expecting several trips into the gravel tbh..

Good point about the chicane - there are green areas beside the kerbs there (and also at T11) like at Imola last week - ppl were using them at Imola, is it the same rule here? Or not?
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« Reply #35 on: March 21, 2013, 04:18:11 PM +0000 »

I tried a few laps in the Escort last night, got a low 1.50, but like frex, found it difficult to be consistent. Also it didn't like attacking the kerbs too much, very easy to put it on its roof! Shocked
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« Reply #36 on: March 21, 2013, 05:23:37 PM +0000 »

I'm hoping that the wheel on the tarmac rule will be followed here.

We all need to be racing to the same track limits so it either needs to be "one wheel left touching the tarmac" or "just let the track decide".

No good if everyone makes up their own mind what constitutes a legal lap and then leaves Matt to see if he can spot the differences.
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« Reply #37 on: March 21, 2013, 05:38:11 PM +0000 »

I am awway in darkest Brum this week and don't have access to P&G, but my memory of this track is that unlike Imola
where some of the chicanes weer very low, and invited some abuse, here the chicanes where you might make up time
are more like the Variante Alto and too much abuse either breaks the suspension or rolls you.

The kerb police are not going to book you for an occasional accidental wander inside kerbs, the game might give you
cuts, and they will be on. Just try to keep two wheels on the track surface most laps and there will not be a problem.
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« Reply #38 on: March 21, 2013, 09:28:27 PM +0000 »

What a disappointment! I was hoping for nothing, hated this track and couldn't get a consistent lap. Then I changed my setup , aiming for as much stability on the rear axle as I could get, and that got me into the 1.51s. I qualified fifth, came through into third and ran with Manteos and Roger for a while. Manteos then spun out of the lead and I continued to follow Roger's Porsche until I was caught by Geoffers in the Escort and Clive's Capri, lost concentration and went off at T1.

Rejoining, I was careless and made contact with Manteos, fortunately without any consequences for either of us. Still, I have to apologise to Matteo, sorry, totally my fault.

I then chased Manteos for several laps and finally overtook him round the back of the circuit when disaster struck - total system freeze for 5 seconds! When it came back, it was all psychedelic colours and I hit esc and quit. I just hope that Manteos who was following me closely didn't run into my frozen car.

Anyway, I thoroughly enjoyed myself while it lasted, and was hoping to inherit another undeserved podium, but it wasn't to be.
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« Reply #39 on: March 21, 2013, 09:56:10 PM +0000 »

I am awway in darkest Brum this week and don't have access to P&G, but my memory of this track is that unlike Imola
where some of the chicanes weer very low, and invited some abuse, here the chicanes where you might make up time
are more like the Variante Alto and too much abuse either breaks the suspension or rolls you.

The kerb police are not going to book you for an occasional accidental wander inside kerbs, the game might give you
cuts, and they will be on. Just try to keep two wheels on the track surface most laps and there will not be a problem.

I have had a look at my replay and must hold my hand up for one accidental transgression at the tight chicane.  However, most of the people that I followed, obviously had no intention of sticking to the tarmac.

Same goes for the bit at the start of the last sector.  It was just being straight lined.

I find it difficult enough to keep to the track that I have practiced without having to modify it mid race!
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« Reply #40 on: March 21, 2013, 10:08:55 PM +0000 »

ah results are up. Wouldn't have inherited a podium it seems - everybody running in front of me finished. Congrats to all podium finishers!

I'm happy to see Manteos finished 4th, which means my freeze didn't take out anybody.
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« Reply #41 on: March 21, 2013, 10:11:52 PM +0000 »

Results and Replay Posted
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« Reply #42 on: March 21, 2013, 11:29:19 PM +0000 »

I have had a look at my replay and must hold my hand up for one accidental transgression at the tight chicane.  However, most of the people that I followed, obviously had no intention of sticking to the tarmac.

Same goes for the bit at the start of the last sector.  It was just being straight line.

Don't know if that includes me Clive, but I didn't think I was using too much kerb. However if the kerb police deem that I was then I am quite happy to be removed from the results.

That aside, was a good race. Absolutely terrible start & got swamped by T1, fortunate to hold onto 4th place. Chased Niels for several laps but could not find a way past until he ran wide at the penultimate turn. Was upto 2nd then as Manteos had already spun out of the lead & just had John's Porsche to deal with. Unfortunately for John it was a bit unfair as the Escort was much quicker on the S/F straight & I breezed past.............. only to run wide at T1 & let John back through  Roll Eyes. Second go at it was more successful with an outside pass at T1. Gradually eeked out a lead & came home with a 7s gap.  Grin

Congrats to John & Clive, cya next week.  thumbup2
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« Reply #43 on: March 21, 2013, 11:35:30 PM +0000 »

Excellent race this evening, well for the first half anyway. Had a very close battle with Nik, Seniordan and Jarda for the first few laps until I was able to take advantage of mistakes and pull clear. Second half was just a drive to the line with no hope of closing on those in front.

Gotta say it's frustrating to hear of drivers exceeding track limits. We all make errors of judgement occasionally, but if this is happening regularly and drivers are purposely gaining advantage, then I believe we ought to start using our moderation system.

Better still, just flippin' stop it!
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« Reply #44 on: March 21, 2013, 11:56:08 PM +0000 »

Having just watched the replay, I have to hold my hand up & say that I was regularly getting all 4 wheels off the tarmac at the chicane & at the tight ess-bend in the last section, so should be disqualified.  Sad
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