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« Reply #30 on: March 20, 2013, 09:57:44 PM +0000 » |
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It's the bitter Truth Stig
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« Reply #31 on: March 21, 2013, 08:48:00 AM +0000 » |
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Myself and Jules are looking forward to this. Jules is 25% Hungarian so feels at home here, his 50% Welsh heritage accounting for his talent We'll both be counting on Italian flare and reliability
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Clive Loynes
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« Reply #32 on: March 21, 2013, 01:34:59 PM +0000 » |
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It's the bitter Truth Stig If it's any help, John wandered off to look at the 911 so that there would be less chance of his lapping me.
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« Reply #33 on: March 21, 2013, 02:53:23 PM +0000 » |
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If it's any help, John wandered off to look at the 911 so that there would be less chance of his lapping me. Haven't had time to do any laps in it yet though, has anyone got any reference times, or a setup? I probably won't get much time before quali. I was dipping into to the 1:48's in the Capri, but have to be careful not to take the p*** at that chicaine.
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« Reply #34 on: March 21, 2013, 04:04:01 PM +0000 » |
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52s for me in 911, but no consistency. Ended up going a completely different way with setup compared to what i had with at Mallory, and it didn't feel anywhere near as nice as it did there. Expecting several trips into the gravel tbh..
Good point about the chicane - there are green areas beside the kerbs there (and also at T11) like at Imola last week - ppl were using them at Imola, is it the same rule here? Or not?
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Geoffers
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« Reply #35 on: March 21, 2013, 04:18:11 PM +0000 » |
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I tried a few laps in the Escort last night, got a low 1.50, but like frex, found it difficult to be consistent. Also it didn't like attacking the kerbs too much, very easy to put it on its roof!
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« Reply #36 on: March 21, 2013, 05:23:37 PM +0000 » |
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I'm hoping that the wheel on the tarmac rule will be followed here.
We all need to be racing to the same track limits so it either needs to be "one wheel left touching the tarmac" or "just let the track decide".
No good if everyone makes up their own mind what constitutes a legal lap and then leaves Matt to see if he can spot the differences.
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« Reply #37 on: March 21, 2013, 05:38:11 PM +0000 » |
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I am awway in darkest Brum this week and don't have access to P&G, but my memory of this track is that unlike Imola where some of the chicanes weer very low, and invited some abuse, here the chicanes where you might make up time are more like the Variante Alto and too much abuse either breaks the suspension or rolls you.
The kerb police are not going to book you for an occasional accidental wander inside kerbs, the game might give you cuts, and they will be on. Just try to keep two wheels on the track surface most laps and there will not be a problem.
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« Reply #38 on: March 21, 2013, 09:28:27 PM +0000 » |
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What a disappointment! I was hoping for nothing, hated this track and couldn't get a consistent lap. Then I changed my setup , aiming for as much stability on the rear axle as I could get, and that got me into the 1.51s. I qualified fifth, came through into third and ran with Manteos and Roger for a while. Manteos then spun out of the lead and I continued to follow Roger's Porsche until I was caught by Geoffers in the Escort and Clive's Capri, lost concentration and went off at T1.
Rejoining, I was careless and made contact with Manteos, fortunately without any consequences for either of us. Still, I have to apologise to Matteo, sorry, totally my fault.
I then chased Manteos for several laps and finally overtook him round the back of the circuit when disaster struck - total system freeze for 5 seconds! When it came back, it was all psychedelic colours and I hit esc and quit. I just hope that Manteos who was following me closely didn't run into my frozen car.
Anyway, I thoroughly enjoyed myself while it lasted, and was hoping to inherit another undeserved podium, but it wasn't to be.
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« Reply #39 on: March 21, 2013, 09:56:10 PM +0000 » |
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I am awway in darkest Brum this week and don't have access to P&G, but my memory of this track is that unlike Imola where some of the chicanes weer very low, and invited some abuse, here the chicanes where you might make up time are more like the Variante Alto and too much abuse either breaks the suspension or rolls you.
The kerb police are not going to book you for an occasional accidental wander inside kerbs, the game might give you cuts, and they will be on. Just try to keep two wheels on the track surface most laps and there will not be a problem.
I have had a look at my replay and must hold my hand up for one accidental transgression at the tight chicane. However, most of the people that I followed, obviously had no intention of sticking to the tarmac. Same goes for the bit at the start of the last sector. It was just being straight lined. I find it difficult enough to keep to the track that I have practiced without having to modify it mid race!
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« Reply #40 on: March 21, 2013, 10:08:55 PM +0000 » |
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ah results are up. Wouldn't have inherited a podium it seems - everybody running in front of me finished. Congrats to all podium finishers!
I'm happy to see Manteos finished 4th, which means my freeze didn't take out anybody.
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« Reply #41 on: March 21, 2013, 10:11:52 PM +0000 » |
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« Reply #42 on: March 21, 2013, 11:29:19 PM +0000 » |
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I have had a look at my replay and must hold my hand up for one accidental transgression at the tight chicane. However, most of the people that I followed, obviously had no intention of sticking to the tarmac.
Same goes for the bit at the start of the last sector. It was just being straight line.
Don't know if that includes me Clive, but I didn't think I was using too much kerb. However if the kerb police deem that I was then I am quite happy to be removed from the results. That aside, was a good race. Absolutely terrible start & got swamped by T1, fortunate to hold onto 4th place. Chased Niels for several laps but could not find a way past until he ran wide at the penultimate turn. Was upto 2nd then as Manteos had already spun out of the lead & just had John's Porsche to deal with. Unfortunately for John it was a bit unfair as the Escort was much quicker on the S/F straight & I breezed past.............. only to run wide at T1 & let John back through . Second go at it was more successful with an outside pass at T1. Gradually eeked out a lead & came home with a 7s gap. Congrats to John & Clive, cya next week.
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« Reply #43 on: March 21, 2013, 11:35:30 PM +0000 » |
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Excellent race this evening, well for the first half anyway. Had a very close battle with Nik, Seniordan and Jarda for the first few laps until I was able to take advantage of mistakes and pull clear. Second half was just a drive to the line with no hope of closing on those in front.
Gotta say it's frustrating to hear of drivers exceeding track limits. We all make errors of judgement occasionally, but if this is happening regularly and drivers are purposely gaining advantage, then I believe we ought to start using our moderation system.
Better still, just flippin' stop it!
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« Reply #44 on: March 21, 2013, 11:56:08 PM +0000 » |
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Having just watched the replay, I have to hold my hand up & say that I was regularly getting all 4 wheels off the tarmac at the chicane & at the tight ess-bend in the last section, so should be disqualified.
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