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  • S2467F2 Brands Hatch: February 17, 2013
February 17, 2013, 09:36:10 PM +0000 - Brands Hatch (GP) - UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Formula 2 Trophy
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
MagicArsouille
 
Matra MS7 GPL F2 2 +0.369
102.245mph
1 40:49.782
101.224mph
26 1:33.281
102.246mph
Dunlop  
DLogan
 
Matra MS7 GPL F2 8 +1.329
101.203mph
2 +31.785
99.928mph
26 1:34.163
101.288mph
Dunlop  
Dean_0
 
Matra MS5 GPL F2 7 +1.183
101.360mph
3 +1:00.947
98.767mph
26 1:33.755
101.729mph
Dunlop  
Ronniepeterson
 Clark-Hill Racing
Matra MS7 GPL F2 10 +1.360
101.170mph
5 +1L
96.705mph
25 1:34.577
100.845mph
Dunlop  
kinghiro
 Clark-Hill Racing
McLaren M4A GPL F2 9 +1.355
101.175mph
6 +19.533
95.945mph
25 1:34.556
100.867mph
Goodyear  
Arf Arf Arf
 Team Baarf
Matra MS7 GPL F2 11 +1.551
100.965mph
7 +53.408
94.655mph
25 1:34.962
100.436mph
Dunlop  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 4 +0.918
101.646mph
8 +6L
97.835mph
20 1:34.056
101.403mph
Disco
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 3 +0.595
101.997mph
9 +16L
101.738mph
10 1:32.676
102.913mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Hristo Itchov
 
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 1 1:32.913
102.651mph
10 +3.245
101.387mph
10 1:32.734
102.849mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Al Heller
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 5 +1.020
101.536mph
11 +27.419
98.847mph
10 1:34.779
100.630mph
Disco
Goodyear  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Matra MS7 GPL F2 13 +2.083
100.400mph
12 +17L
97.250mph
9 1:35.171
100.215mph
Disco
Dunlop  
s2173
 Team7
Lola T100 (FVA) GPL F2 14 +3.040
99.398mph
13 +20L
95.699mph
6 1:36.248
99.094mph
Disco
Firestone  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 12 +1.738
100.766mph
14 +26L
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Disco
Goodyear  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
Lotus 48 GPL F2 15 15 DNS ---
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Firestone  
natan5
 NVRacing
McLaren M4A GPL F2 6 +1.084
101.467mph
Excluded +0L
98.418mph
26 1:33.916
101.554mph
Goodyear  

Moderator's Report

We are usually a freindly bunch in UKGPL.Dean 0's first race in the F2's was a welcome of fire. Yet he still manages a Podium!


Server replay time: 0h00m53s

Ronnie closes on Dean 0 off the start line – the server shows no direct contact - warp related Racing Incident. This caused a chain reaction down the pack, but all followed from the first incident.


Server replay time: 0h01m16s

Ronnie spins after Druids. Sky does well to avoid Ronnie & Arf takes the outside to avoid Sky. Again a warp contact between Sky & Arf = Racing Incident

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h01m26s

Cookie doesn’t quite make Bottom Bend, a wheel on the grass causes scrubs off some speed. Natan is committed to the corner & his drift takes him in Cookie. Natan could have shown a little more caution & backed out to avoid Cookie, but not penalty situation.


Server replay time: 0h04m42s

Natan takes a second Shift R, having failed to take a SnG for his first. Double Disqualification!


Server replay time: 0h10m35s

Massive spin by Doni after Paddock, Dean L takes evasive action but Dean 0 runs into Doni – Racing Incident. Both drivers take a reset but Doni spawns in front of Dean, sending back into the hay bales. Technically this is 2 x shift R’s but the second should is waived as a direct consequence of the first. Dean complies with the SnG.


Server replay time: 0h17m20s

This time it's Arf's turn to spin catching out King Hiro & (yes you guessed it) Dean 0. Racing Incident

  • Racing incident

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Grand Prix Legends
GPL F2
1:32.676
101.782mph
EvilClive
Race
Brabham BT23February 17, 2013, 09:36:10 PM +0000
S2467F2
February 17, 2013, 09:36:26 PM +0000 - Brands Hatch (GP) - UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Formula 2 Trophy
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
JonnyO
 Team Coyote
Matra MS5 GPL F2 1 1:34.856
99.414mph
1 41:34.119
98.304mph
26 1:34.911
99.357mph
Dunlop  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Matra MS7 GPL F2 2 +0.619
98.770mph
2 +29.714
97.146mph
26 1:36.164
98.062mph
Dunlop  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Lola T100 (FVA) GPL F2 6 +1.548
97.818mph
3 +52.438
96.279mph
26 1:35.956
98.275mph
Firestone  
ed76
 Team Coyote
Lola T100 (FVA) GPL F2 9 +1.748
97.615mph
4 +1:10.089
95.617mph
26 1:36.853
97.364mph
Firestone  
PaulV
 Blue Moose Racing
Lotus 48 GPL F2 11 +2.142
97.219mph
5 +1:18.762
95.294mph
26 1:36.209
98.016mph
Firestone  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Matra MS7 GPL F2 5 +1.214
98.158mph
6 +1:20.793
95.219mph
26 1:35.860
98.373mph
Dunlop  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Matra MS7 GPL F2 10 +2.008
97.353mph
7 +1:25.220
95.056mph
26 1:36.138
98.089mph
Dunlop  
francesco
 
Matra MS5 GPL F2 4 +1.001
98.376mph
8 +1:33.326
94.758mph
26 1:36.547
97.673mph
Dunlop  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 7 +1.627
97.738mph
9 +1:34.759
94.706mph
26 1:36.707
97.511mph
Goodyear  
il_lupo_mannaro
 Black Night Racing
McLaren M4A GPL F2 3 +0.844
98.537mph
10 +1L
93.141mph
25 1:36.020
98.209mph
Goodyear  
tintin
 Clark-Hill Racing
Matra MS7 GPL F2 12 +4.199
95.200mph
11 +26.604
92.172mph
25 1:39.079
95.177mph
Dunlop  
Pierre D
 
Lotus 48 GPL F2 14 +4.725
94.697mph
12 +2L
88.963mph
24 1:40.855
93.501mph
Firestone  
Geoff65
 Clark-Hill Racing
McLaren M4A GPL F2 8 +1.673
97.691mph
13 +25L
67.723mph
1 2:16.864
68.901mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Adam Cooper
 Team Coyote
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 13 +4.409
94.999mph
14 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
BadBlood
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 15 +17.749
83.744mph
15 ---
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Goodyear  
Nigel Smith
 Blue Moose Racing
McLaren M4A GPL F2 16 ---
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Goodyear  
UKGPL 3
 
Lola T100 (FVA) GPL F2 16 17 ---
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Firestone  

Moderator's Report

Red zone - all clear - so far, so good.


Server replay time: 0h03m00s

Tin Tin spins on the approach to the Daily Express bridge. He appears to struggle to gain control with the car crossing the track right to left. Paul V slows his approach & takes a line to the left where he runs into Tin Tin.


Server replay time: 0h05m54s

Paddock,Ed misjudges Billy's line & carries too much speed or gets a bit more tow than expected & runs into the car ahead.


Server replay time: 0h24m00s

Fran spins across te track on the approach to Druids - really leaving Shunji with no place to go.


Server replay time: 0h33m00s

Rainier has superior speed & commits to an overtake on the inside. Fran does no more than hold his line. The server replay shows the cars close but no direct contact. Ths is either a warp or a contested overtake (if contact would have been inevitable) = Racing Incident.

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« Reply #30 on: February 17, 2013, 10:33:00 PM +0000 »

Not too bad a race for me tonight in the Heavies.

I dont think too many of us had freezes or discos.  apart from a tiny couple of glitches all seemed good to me.

had some good racing and really enjoyed tonight.

so sorry to Tintin, I was coming around the lefthander from bottom straight towards the Daily Express bridge and you had either had to rejoin or was recovering from a spin, I didnt know which way to pass you .. I choose the left hoping you would stop coming back toward me. I had come almost to a stop to miss you and we just touched and I nudged your gearbox... sorry mate.  I saw you rejoin fine hope it didnt screw up your race.

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« Reply #31 on: February 17, 2013, 10:35:06 PM +0000 »

Everyone seems to have had some form of problem tonight. Mine was a lack of sound, which cut out around lap 8 because some ****** program ran an update utility. It also took out some of my force feedback, and left my screen flashing for the whole ***** race. I tried to drive the track from memory, but without the sounds it was only a matter of time and I lost it going into Paddock Hill Bend. Unfortunately I bounced back onto the track in someone's path - sorry about that! Either the problems mentioned above or just the sheer amount of damage the car took (without braking down...tough little sods, these F2s) meant that slowing the car and turning became a bit of a lottery, and I'm amazed that I made it to the end. I tried to shift+R at one point, and that didn't work. However, the process of stopping for a mo, and careful playing with the mosue stopped the update utility and got the sounds back, but not the FFB.....

Aside from that I got dragged into 2/3 incidents of other peoples' making on Lap 1, and about halfway through the race I came round Clearways(?) to find someone limping into the pits, on the racing line and lost it avoiding them. There were occasional laps where I got some good racing in, and I held off a red car for the last 3/4 laps, never knowing if it was someone hoping to lap me - didn't get any blue flags, but final results suggest I was last finisher......

All in all, a miracle I finished....but not entirely sure I should have bothered....

WD to all that finished, comiserations to all the screen freeze victims.

Gutted I'll miss Watkins Glen in 2 weeks, but I shall cheer myself up with the knowledge that I will be playing with a (real) Corvette at the time  Smiley

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« Reply #32 on: February 17, 2013, 10:37:07 PM +0000 »

I managed to take home a sixth due to Arf being a bit "unstable "although slightly faster than me.

Ha ha! Lucky you  Grin


Just read the mechanical report on the race, and that suggests the lightest of damage. Given the number of offs I had, especially the speed of 3/4, I'm amazed the car was not worse - must mean all the semi-random handling difficulties came from the update issue....
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« Reply #33 on: February 17, 2013, 11:01:38 PM +0000 »

Couldn't race but made sure the boys weren't watching videos - kept UKGPL3 nice and clean...
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« Reply #34 on: February 17, 2013, 11:02:36 PM +0000 »

 Undecided , Billy say : Accordingly there will be no handicap at this race.

I don't see that and I take a Lola

As usual, I missed my departure then I rode regularly enjoying the track outputs of other drivers.
Finally, if the bandit Jonny  Hit with a wet fish had not come I would have finished on the podium (unfortunately the Brazilians went in winter time this week)
I'm not fast at Brands Hatch so I am very pleased with this result especially without my Matra .

Congratulations to my team leader for his victory
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« Reply #35 on: February 17, 2013, 11:38:52 PM +0000 »

Hi....
...bad luck for the freezz screen guys, Undecided I can't do nothing to follow you Tongue, to mutch lags specialy in turn 1 & 2...and then you desepear in the same time exactly in front of me  Shocked!.....So it's a lucky victory for me

....can't be there for Watkins, see you all in Jarama....

....ciao tutti la tribue !
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« Reply #36 on: February 17, 2013, 11:44:29 PM +0000 »

Just noticed the results from this race are missing from the standings page for the division. It's like the race is not even part of the championship.
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« Reply #37 on: February 18, 2013, 12:09:24 AM +0000 »

Just noticed the results from this race are missing from the standings page for the division. It's like the race is not even part of the championship.

In fact,  this round is currently listed under "Non-Championship Races";  no doubt this will be updated soon enough! Smiley



Undecided , Billy say : Accordingly there will be no handicap at this race.

I don't see that and I take a Lola

What's wrong with the Lola?  UKGPL3 thought it was a good idea...!


Jumped on the practice server last night & just as well,  found the track would not load for me.   It had worked ok in the past.  Didn't bother investigating,  just downloaded again from the link in the event details.  During the race, no disconnections/issues for me,  although if I was being picky;  maybe the frame-rate seemed a little low sometimes on the run to the hairpin.  But was probably still running approx 35FPS.  Maybe I should have turned the graphics level down a little, but not actually a real problem.

Lucky to have started from 6th.  Had a good run with Fran for a while, my fastest lap of the race was after an excursion & pushing to catch up again.
Also lucky when the engine gave out exiting the last corner on the last lap;  hence engaging whisper-mode over the finish line!


Cheers all.
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« Reply #38 on: February 18, 2013, 01:44:18 AM +0000 »

Apologies to Al for the bunt going into Paddock.  And I'd backed out of the gas early, too.  Sigh...  Only the lap prior, I was thinking to myself, 'Well...  Here we go again.  Another 'Al & Doni Show'.  Al and I have had some fine battles in the past and this was shaping up to be another memorable affair.

Ultimately, I hooked up with Natan and we had a grand old tussle til I clipped the cones in Paddock and lost a corner.  That should really never happen.  The cones are way over spec for collision strength.

A fine drive by Tristan to score a good win.  Well done!  Smiley  Great job by the Deaners, Dean Logan & Dean Wayman, to finish P2 and P3, respectively.

Downer about all the freezes.  Sad
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« Reply #39 on: February 18, 2013, 11:05:57 AM +0000 »

I was really peed off lastnight. After getting a good feel on race fuel and down to a 1:37+ consistently, I went onto the server, joined the track, clicked the green button to get on track and..........stuck in the straw bales at the pits.  Tried several times, even exited the server and came back on- no joy. Tried a different car-still no luck.
So, yet another bust for me. S24 could be going the way of S23.
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« Reply #40 on: February 18, 2013, 11:40:32 AM +0000 »

I was really peed off lastnight. After getting a good feel on race fuel and down to a 1:37+ consistently, I went onto the server, joined the track, clicked the green button to get on track and..........stuck in the straw bales at the pits.  Tried several times, even exited the server and came back on- no joy. Tried a different car-still no luck.
So, yet another bust for me. S24 could be going the way of S23.

Yeah - I had the same thing.   As soon as materialised in the pitlane,   hit the bales.
During practice/qually,  in order to get to the track without bale-damage;  I ended up having to perform a shift-R as soon as I landed in the pitlane.
Not the ideal way of joining the session,  but seemingly no other way.

Cheers,
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« Reply #41 on: February 18, 2013, 12:34:38 PM +0000 »

Had no problems with track, uninstalled my old Brands and installed Ginettos from SRMZ quote (here is Ginetto's Brands Hatch 67 high res , updated and fixed (with installer) , thanks go to Dave Sabre for allowing permission for this to be released .

 Ginetto has updated some of gfx and fixed a number of problems with the track like the weird bump at the exit of the pits and the disco problems , so now you should be able to enjoy Brands Hatch in full high res without the worry of getting a disco online . hopefully brands can now be taken off some leagues track blacklists ). All I did was turn down the graphics slider in GPL to get better fps going past the pits.

Got in the 1.35s in quall but could not match JohnnyO 1.34s, in race had wrong setup and worried about fuel, sure enough half way through last lap car started to cough and just managed to crawl over finish line.

Grats to JohnnyO on a great win.

Thanks to Pierre D and Tintin for moving over when being past.

Not sure how GPL models fuel usage, if you drive slower does it go further, or do you use the same amount per lap however you drive.

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« Reply #42 on: February 18, 2013, 12:50:00 PM +0000 »

ROGUK : Not sure how GPL models fuel usage, if you drive slower does it go further, or do you use the same amount per lap however you drive.


If you are slower you consume less fuel :  it takes me 10% less fuel than a fast Pilot ( I tested that many times )
but beware of consumption indicated by GPL, especially the mods so I make a test during a training . ( I seem to remember that if there is no TrackF2.ini, the value is calculated from the F1 Brabham )
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« Reply #43 on: February 18, 2013, 02:33:15 PM +0000 »

Had no problems with track, uninstalled my old Brands and installed Ginettos from SRMZ quote (here is Ginetto's Brands Hatch 67 high res , updated and fixed (with installer) , thanks go to Dave Sabre for allowing permission for this to be released .

 Ginetto has updated some of gfx and fixed a number of problems with the track like the weird bump at the exit of the pits and the disco problems , so now you should be able to enjoy Brands Hatch in full high res without the worry of getting a disco online . hopefully brands can now be taken off some leagues track blacklists ). All I did was turn down the graphics slider in GPL to get better fps going past the pits.

I have that, still a screen freeze though. It doesn't happen with older mods, just GTs and F2s.
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« Reply #44 on: February 18, 2013, 04:43:49 PM +0000 »

Same here  Sad
Would be interesting to know if all the freezes occurred at the same time, at least those on lap 11 and mine at 10 lap. I was exiting from right hander after the back straight.
Ciao

Had no problems with track, uninstalled my old Brands and installed Ginettos from SRMZ quote (here is Ginetto's Brands Hatch 67 high res , updated and fixed (with installer) , thanks go to Dave Sabre for allowing permission for this to be released .

 Ginetto has updated some of gfx and fixed a number of problems with the track like the weird bump at the exit of the pits and the disco problems , so now you should be able to enjoy Brands Hatch in full high res without the worry of getting a disco online . hopefully brands can now be taken off some leagues track blacklists ). All I did was turn down the graphics slider in GPL to get better fps going past the pits.
I have that, still a screen freeze though. It doesn't happen with older mods, just GTs and F2s.
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