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  • P8BHC Castle Combe: March 28, 2013
March 28, 2013, 08:53:17 PM +0000 - Castle Combe (Car) - UKPnG Season 8 British Historic Cup
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
frex
 Kerb Crawlers
Ford Escort TC (60s) (#69094) P&G Group 5 1 1:14.316
89.721mph
1 38:06.982
87.465mph
30 1:14.876
89.050mph
Dunlop  
johnw
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Ford Escort TC (60s) (#68036) P&G Group 5 6 +1.023
88.503mph
2 +0.418
87.449mph
30 1:15.370
88.466mph
Dunlop  
goldtop
 Kerb Crawlers
Alfa Romeo GTA (#67044) {unknown} 2 +0.879
88.672mph
3 +12.619
86.985mph
30 1:15.721
88.056mph
Dunlop  
SuperSWIFT
 
Ford Escort TC (60s) (#68036) P&G Group 5 5 +1.021
88.505mph
4 +18.487
86.764mph
30 1:15.944
87.798mph
Dunlop  
Clive Loynes
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Alfa Romeo Giulia 1750 GTAm (#70098) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 7 +1.045
88.477mph
5 +21.720
86.642mph
30 1:15.432
88.394mph
Firestone  
Animal Ed
 
Ford Falcon (#68090) P&G Group 5 9 +1.463
87.989mph
6 +36.200
86.102mph
30 1:15.975
87.762mph
Dunlop  
NPP
 Team Oldie Racing
Ford Escort TC (60s) (#69094) P&G Group 5 4 +0.954
88.584mph
7 +48.316
85.655mph
30 1:15.472
88.347mph
Dunlop  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Ford Escort TC (60s) (#69094) P&G Group 5 8 +1.345
88.126mph
8 +55.111
85.407mph
30 1:16.135
87.577mph
Dunlop  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Ford Falcon (#68043) P&G Group 5 3 +0.949
88.590mph
9 +1:00.439
85.213mph
30 1:16.199
87.504mph
Dunlop  
Alex vV
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
FIAT Abarth TC1000 Gr5 (#69041) P&G Group 5 14 +9.485
79.566mph
10 +3L
76.010mph
27 1:23.697
79.665mph
Dunlop  
Legzy
 Team Oldie Racing
Alfa Romeo Giulia 1750 GTAm (#70001) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 10 +1.467
87.984mph
11 +10L 20 1:15.642
88.148mph
suspension
Firestone  
SpecialKS
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Alfa Romeo Giulia 1750 GTAm (#70003) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 13 +3.521
85.662mph
12 +22L 8 1:18.066
85.411mph
suspension
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
Ford Escort TC (60s) (#69094) P&G Group 5 13 +23L 7 1:19.261
84.123mph
unknown
Dunlop  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Ford Falcon (#68104) P&G Group 5 12 +3.066
86.166mph
14 +24L 6 1:17.650
85.869mph
engine
Dunlop  
simon loynes
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Ford Escort TC (60s) (#68036) P&G Group 5 11 +2.289
87.040mph
+30L 0 ---
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unknown
Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Frex admits to a cut at a chicane and feels that an unfair advantage over an opponent was taken as a result.
We cannot judge "what might of been" but no penalty for the cut is awarded as it's judged a one off.

  • frexcaution — One cut at chicane is not considered worthy of a penalty

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GTR2
P&G Group 5
1:14.316
89.721mph
frex
Qualifying
Ford Escort TC (60s)March 28, 2013, 08:53:17 PM +0000
P8BHC
GTR2
P&G Group 5
1:14.876
89.050mph
frex
Race
Ford Escort TC (60s)March 28, 2013, 08:53:17 PM +0000
P8BHC
GTR2
P&G 70s Gr2 U2L
1:15.361
88.477mph
Clive Loynes
Qualifying
Alfa Romeo Giulia 1750 GTAm March 28, 2013, 08:53:17 PM +0000
P8BHC
GTR2
P&G 70s Gr2 U2L
1:15.432
88.394mph
Clive Loynes
Race
Alfa Romeo Giulia 1750 GTAm March 28, 2013, 08:53:17 PM +0000
P8BHC
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« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2013, 08:58:46 PM +0000 »

Errr ... why do I have those ones and you don`t?



Because he has sent them flying on a previous lap.   Grin
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« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2013, 09:07:19 PM +0000 »



Yes Matt, this is the first one on full details ...
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« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2013, 01:17:17 AM +0000 »


Because he has sent them flying on a previous lap.   Grin

That was funny Clive... chapeau  Wink

However, to answer to Animal Ed. The truth is that I have an old pc, with a very low framerate if I put the graphic details on "medium" or "high", so I've to race with "low" track details. That means that in every track, I see less object then you on track. You can check it by your own,if you set to "low" the voice "track detail". Despite of it, I see the poles at the second chicane, but I don't see them in the first. I will try to set the track details to "medium", and see if I get a chance to race with a decent number of fps. I would like to avoid paying a fine to Clive for destroying his precious reflectors poles  Grin
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« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2013, 01:31:13 AM +0000 »

Didn't noticed the second row of Matt's post. So, you just had the answer about what I called "reflector poles".

Thanks for removing the cuts Matt Smiley
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« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2013, 01:11:40 PM +0000 »

here you go:- Smiley



ps...isnt the alfa 1750 going to wipe the floor with the rest of these cars?  Undecided

pps advert posted at No-grip too  Smiley
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« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2013, 05:00:39 PM +0000 »

Thanks Mark

It might if everyone uses it, hopefully not everyone will. Not sure about tyre wear, but a well driven Falcon or perhaps Mustang
could wee on the little cars.
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« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2013, 05:54:56 PM +0000 »

for me, the Alfa is significantly faster than the rest of the field, but then I've never managed to extract any speed from the big American cars.
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« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2013, 07:52:08 PM +0000 »

For me Alfa is about 0.5 sec faster than Escort who is about 0,5 faster than Falcon ... shame that Alpine 1300 is not listed because she could give Alfa run for the money.
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« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2013, 08:39:18 PM +0000 »

Oh Dear,

Is it be kind to Alfa weeK?

Never get on with them myself.   surrender
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« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2013, 10:05:18 PM +0000 »

Looks like I'll be in a fast car this week then......for a change Wink
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« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2013, 07:18:30 AM +0000 »

............, I will turn cuts off, but the cut police will be standing at each corner


Shame on you!

I had practiced for 30 minutes before I found out that there were any track cuts active, and that was only because I crashed!

They are not a problem if you give them enough room.

As it is, we are back in the hands of the well known toothless tiger, the cut police!  thumbdown

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« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2013, 12:44:51 PM +0000 »

think im with Clive on that one, if people know there will be a cut warning they adjust their speed and line accordingly, unless the cut warning is totally unjustified/too severe that it spoils the corner. We used to have one like that at srouks Monza which spoilt the natural flow of the fast chicane. It was just too harsh and unwarranted and gave people silly S&G penalties. Not that bothered here. I can understand peoples irritation if they get an s&g just because they got a bit out of shape through a turn, these cars arent always precision elements!

Ive not turned a lap here yet in any car  Sad not had any spare time this week. Will jump online this eve for some laps hopefully. Thinking of taking an escort as not used one in anger in P&G3 yet.
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« Reply #27 on: March 27, 2013, 01:30:45 PM +0000 »

I have turned them off because to me and apparently others they are somewhat unpredictable
There must be a definate line that you cross to trigger, but it seems to depend on exactly how you appoach it
I have had cuts there with a wheel on the grass, but not if I keep a wheel on the kerb, but next lap i got
a cut when my wheel just brushed the kerb. It seems the cut does not accurately follow the curve of the corner
so in the interests of having a fun race I have turned it off. To be fair you get more benefit from cutting
elsewhere than that single point, so I doubt it will make a significant difference to the times.
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« Reply #28 on: March 27, 2013, 03:23:54 PM +0000 »

I have turned them off because to me and apparently others they are somewhat unpredictable
There must be a definate line that you cross to trigger, but it seems to depend on exactly how you appoach it
I have had cuts there with a wheel on the grass, but not if I keep a wheel on the kerb, but next lap i got
a cut when my wheel just brushed the kerb. It seems the cut does not accurately follow the curve of the corner
so in the interests of having a fun race I have turned it off. To be fair you get more benefit from cutting
elsewhere than that single point, so I doubt it will make a significant difference to the times.

Oh dear! Holy Words!  Wink

However, I'm not so sure I will able to race on Thursday, despite I turned a lot yesterday with all the listed cars.
My reference time in race trim at the moment are:
Alfa GTAm 1750: 1.14.3
Escort TC n° 39: 1.16.0 (but I could go on mid-high 15)
Ford Falcon Sprint (Terry Sanger - Less power but disc/disc brakes): 1.16.3 (chance to go down on 16.0)
I Mustang Gr2.: 1.17.xxx ( I don't remember if was high or low 17)
Abarth: I did not try again, so if I remember well, I was on high 19, but I guess it's able to do a mid-high 18)
Then I tried a car not listed in the first post, the Falcon Weslake Heads, and even if it was a bit slower than the alfa, it could be surely the best option to give a challenge to the small Italian. 1.14.8 for me (keep this pace however it will very difficult, I've done consistently low 15's. I will base my choice on who will drive Alfas, and I could be tempted to pick the Weslake Heads if it will be added to the list.

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« Reply #29 on: March 27, 2013, 03:57:19 PM +0000 »

Terry Sangers Falcon has same power as others except Allan Mann (also white as Sangers) who is the weakest ...

I`ll take Falcon or #94 Escort, not sure yet. Alpha is an option only if the majority appears with ...
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