UKPnG Season 8 British Historic Cup - Castle Combe - Mar 28

[SuperSWIFT]

I was really looking forward to this race as I’ve seen some footage of my favourite real life car (Dolomite Sprint) doing some trackday laps at this very circuit (link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq4NsUQRS64)

During pre-race testing, for me the Alfa was way quickest (low 1:15’s average) and the Falcon at mid 1:15’s average. In the Escort I managed only 1:16’s at first, but as I like the car and its remotely comparable with the car in the abovementioned video, I decided to take the Escort Mann (best looking colours).

I found this circuit has many corners where a slightly different line costs you seconds, so my ‘quick’ lap during Qualifying was more achieved by having a lucky lap than by careful driving. Bit surprised to find myself on the 5th spot on the grid.
The start went OK-ish, I kept my position and soon found myself in 4th position when Geoffers had a ‘moment’. From then on, it was just following numbers 1 to 3, but was a little bit slower, so found myself running around on my own. Looking back, I didn’t have any battle at all! So a bit mixed feelings about this round, looking forward to next.

Grats to podium!

 

[Clive Loynes]

........ Looking back, I didn’t have any battle at all! So a bit mixed feelings about this round, looking forward to next.

   You should have backed off a bit.  I was planning on giving you my undivided attention but ran out of laps!

[Mark J]

Frex, i wouldnt worry about being excluded. I think some are getting a little too hung up on this cutting thing. The aim is to discourage people from doing it, not jump on people that may have cut a chicane kerb on the odd lap. If someone was deliberately doing it lap after lap or to gain a high grid position that would be viewed differently i expect. We dont want it turning into the fun police on here. Lets just enjoy the racing. 

[frex]

Frex, i wouldnt worry about being excluded. I think some are getting a little too hung up on this cutting thing. The aim is to discourage people from doing it, not jump on people that may have cut a chicane kerb on the odd lap. If someone was deliberately doing it lap after lap or to gain a high grid position that would be viewed differently i expect. We dont want it turning into the fun police on here. Lets just enjoy the racing. 

Yes, completely agree - fun factor is much more important than final result, and this race was certainly high in fun! But i'm not comfortable with passing john for the win this way.

[Clive Loynes]

I think the point that Frex is making, in a most gentlemany act, is that he does not want to be seen as overtaking John by track cutting.  Not the same thing as habitual short cuts throughout a race.  If that is the only time that his wheels left the tarmac throughout then there is no case to answer with regard to repetitive track cutting.

For my four-pennyworth, they appear to be close going into the chicane but John has gained quite a good advantage on exit, when frex has cut the corner.  So unless his line through the corner has given him several kph on exit speed then his cutting of the corner hasn't gained him anything and isn't relevant to the subsequent pass.  I can't imagine why John has gone off the circuit but it it were me, I would guess that I was so busy watching frex in my mirror that I forgot to look where I was going.  

Someone would need to look at the replay to see if frex's exit from the chicane happend to be any quicker than normal and in order for that to happen, then I guess that, an incident report would need to be raised.

[phspok]

MJ says it pretty well. Your "cut" would have been normal racing in Matteo's Italian series, here we prefer two
wheel on the track. If John had not gone on the grass you may not have passed either.
I think I did much the same at times in the Falcon, though that for me at least is harder to be accurate with.
We don't want people cutting corners all the time, but a one off would not normally be an issue here.
if you want to proceed with the incident report please do, but I would not have entered one for what you did.
Incident reports are more for bad driving like ramming people, not waiting if you push someone off, it would need
to be regular driving on the grass to warrant one. IMHO

[johnw]

Please exclude me, or at least deduct me a place or two. Sorry john.

Don't worry about it mate, honestly. I lost that place because I made a mistake, simple as that. The cut obviously wasn't intended and I wouldn't want to see a great race tarnished by incidents. Grats on the win, I thought I'd be able to hold on until the end, but was pushing hard trying to make up for the lack of horses in the #36 car and just got the line slightly wrong going onto the straight. It went light going over the crest and understeered of the track when I didn't lift. Good fun trying to get past Goldtop earlier as well

[Animal Ed]

Nothing much to say.
Boring race for me except few laps when I was trying to keep CL behind. Falcon is just too heavy for fliping right/left through chicanes and long gearing also didn`t help because I lost acceleration advantage.

Tires was fine for about 20 laps but last 10 was just keeping the damn thing on the road.

At least my aircraft carrier was the fastest one.

[Geoffers]

No worries about the bumps Neils & Mark, you both waited so that was fine.

Had great fun throwing the Falcon around but as I had to use the harder tyres in the race I was much slower than in qually so probably ended up in much the same final position as I would have without the incidents.

Congrats to Frex, John & GT. 

[Alex vV]

Unofficial LapChart

Better late than never I guess ... 

[Clive Loynes]

Thanks Alex.

Was afraid you had forsaken us.

[Alex vV]

nah, the fumes from the little Abarth's open-hooded engine were flowing in the cockpit so i wasn't feeling very well the last couple of days 

Glad of your mention though because I haven't got a clue if someone finds the lapcharts useful 

[phspok]

I LOve 'em 

[Hotkeys]

nah, the fumes from the little Abarth's open-hooded engine were flowing in the cockpit so i wasn't feeling very well the last couple of days 

Glad of your mention though because I haven't got a clue if someone finds the lapcharts useful 

Always interesting to look over the stats Alex 

[Wiltshire Tony]

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