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  • NGT Sprint - S2 R8 - Oschers: February 07, 2006
February 07, 2006, 09:19:48 PM +0000 - Oschersleben (GP) - UKGTR GTR1 Sprint Season 2 N-GT
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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LEUVEN
 CBFR
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 1 1:26.897
94.183mph
1 40:49.450
90.213mph
27 1:27.537
93.494mph
Dunlop  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Morgan Aero 8 NGT 4 +1.053
93.055mph
2 +35.331
88.931mph
27 1:29.050
91.906mph
Dunlop  
mo
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 3 +0.926
93.190mph
3 +37.532
88.852mph
27 1:28.850
92.112mph
Dunlop  
Rich_A
 CBFR
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 5 +1.179
92.922mph
4 +41.559
88.708mph
27 1:29.128
91.825mph
Dunlop  
greg130
 28CD Motorsports
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 9 +2.192
91.865mph
5 +1:02.020
87.986mph
27 1:29.945
90.991mph
Dunlop  
Truetom
 Ze insane Penguins
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 2 +0.772
93.353mph
6 +1:11.209
87.665mph
27 1:28.769
92.196mph
Dunlop  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 12 +2.626
91.420mph
7 +1L
86.529mph
26 1:29.507
91.436mph
Dunlop  
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 6 +1.324
92.769mph
8 +2.680
86.435mph
26 1:30.037
90.898mph
Dunlop  
FlyBri
 
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 16 +4.763
89.289mph
9 +43.501
85.025mph
26 1:31.607
89.340mph
Dunlop  
enz13_gt
 
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 10 +2.572
91.475mph
10 +47.251
84.898mph
26 1:30.700
90.234mph
Pirelli  
[ZiP]Tyf
 Ze insane Penguins
Gillet Vertigo Streiff NGT 14 +3.550
90.486mph
11 +54.486
84.653mph
26 1:30.627
90.306mph
Dunlop  
Don
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 13 +2.773
91.270mph
12 +55.087
84.633mph
26 1:30.345
90.588mph
Dunlop  
Jamera
 Ze insane Penguins
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 17 +4.936
89.120mph
13 +2L
81.712mph
25 1:32.903
88.094mph
Dunlop  
whitham69
 Team Unpronounceable
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 18 +5.619
88.462mph
14 +1.197
81.673mph
25 1:32.157
88.807mph
Dunlop  
Rob Bywater "Kerb Crawlers"
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 19 +6.240
87.873mph
15 +3.084
81.611mph
25 1:32.592
88.390mph
Dunlop  
silver53
 Ze insane Penguins
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 21 +7.481
86.717mph
16 +4.884
81.553mph
25 1:33.649
87.392mph
Pirelli  
Edza
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 20 +7.372
86.817mph
17 +5L
72.913mph
22 1:34.772
86.357mph
Dunlop  
locutos ukgtr
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 8 +1.953
92.112mph
18 +8L 19 1:29.258
91.691mph
unknown
Pirelli  
popabawa
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 7 +1.388
92.702mph
19 +13L 14 1:29.182
91.769mph
unknown
Dunlop  
stnasky
 
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 20 +15L 12 1:29.440
91.505mph
unknown
Dunlop  
PaulW
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 11 +2.622
91.424mph
21 +19L 8 1:29.633
91.308mph
suspension
Dunlop  
as-here
 
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 15 +4.665
89.384mph
22 +26L 1 2:25.960
56.071mph
unknown
Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

After some incidents on start finish straights drivers are again advised to wait until they get the 'Race Finished' message before celebrating the end of a race.
Its a bit like scoring an own-goal to write off the car on purpose on the wrong lap, and it can be dangerous for other drivers who are following behind.


Server replay time: 605s

PaulW has an off and is rejoining from the gravel trap. He waits patiently for Enz13_gt to pass and then sees a reasonable gap and starts to rejoin. PaulW spins on rejoin and ends up stopped on track in the path of the approaching FlyBri, and there is unavoidable contact.
The rejoin would have been safe if PaulW had not spun and ended up stranded on the racing line, so in this case I tend to view it almost as a racing incident.

  • PaulWadvice — Merging with the racing line at a more gradual angle is safer
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 2507s

Mo gets a run on Shark out of Shell and into the penultimate bend on the final lap. As he rounds the outside there is some close racing which results in contact and Mo spins out across the grass, luckily not colliding with Shark as he rounds the final turn.

  • Racing incident

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« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2006, 01:10:28 AM +0000 »

Olla,

After this race I seriously wondered what the heck we're all on about with that GTL discussion!? I joined the server which had about 11 GT3 Porsches and I was only one with a different car (Vertigo). Some more join and only Shark and me have an alternative car in the race? In this case Shark did pwetty well, but the Vertigo is no match for any car there I believe. Drove my ass off and managed a midpack qualifying of 12th (?). My personal best, 0.6 secs faster would have given me the same position, lol! Cheesy
Start was good, managed to not do a standing start after time started running, prolly due to the fact there's no countdown in the middle of my screen this time Wink Cheesy
Ended up in 6th after people spinning and crashing and 'leaving' the server. Had to push really hard to stay there, which was bound to go wrong, hehe and it did. Let TT through, only to see him spin off and suddenly appear in my right front window again Wink! EGG!  Angry
Was behind Ginsters and Mark after another spin. They had a really nice battle and I was able to stay close, but in last turn, Mark had a glitch, suddenly on my bonnet then 10 yard away again, hehe. Someone else left the server at the same time... Hence I was out of the game, lol. Even managed to ram myself into the pit wall in the last lap, since I've been driving GTL so much that I thought last lap, was really last lap... GTR felt it necessary to see this differently, rofl! Hence I lost even more places... HAHA!
Can laugh at it now, but I was pwetty P'd off at the time! Wink  Undecided :'( Lips Sealed Embarrassed Angry Angry Angry

Grats to Leuven and to all others who managed to finish 40 mins (or more Wink Cheesy) of Oscher!

 Kiss

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« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2006, 01:17:59 AM +0000 »

and only Shark and me have an alternative car in the race? In this case Shark did pwetty well, but the Vertigo is no match for any car there I believe.

Yeah, it's a shame more don't take the alternative cars as they handle better than the F360 or 911, even though they don't have as much grip or straight line speed.
Also IT'S LONELY BEING THE ONLY ONE MADE OUT OF WOOD!
We need a points multiplier to make it more worthwhile.  Wink Grin
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« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2006, 01:57:10 AM +0000 »

Grats to Leuven again!

* [ZiP]Tyf waits

* [ZiP]Tyf is still waiting

... u peeps don't get it do ye?

It's his birthday! Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!  Afro Evil Hit with a wet fish Hit with a wet fish Afro Evil Evil Afro Hit with a wet fish

Cool

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« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2006, 06:53:43 AM +0000 »

Have a good un Leuv ; Kiss Kiss Kiss Tongue Cool Grin Cheesy Wink Smiley Kiss
 Afro Love the new yellow headed beastie's Evil Evil Afro
Happy Birthday Leuven Wink
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« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2006, 08:17:45 AM +0000 »

Hey guys, thanks for the commiserations, I appreciate it Smiley

I've been looking into my connection problems (that's 3 out of the last 4 NGT Sprint races I've had a disconnect) and I'm now 95% sure it's down to my ISP.

At peak times, I'm getting massive packet loss on my connection (up to 20%) which seems to be causing the disconnects. My ISP (freedom2surf) has admitted there is a problem generally on their network and specifically with packet loss for customers on an 8MB LLU connection (like me).

I've been using a monitoring service (http://l8nc.com/) to keep an eye on my connection and after a pretty good few days, the packet loss was horrible last night.

We've been promised improvements over the next few weeks and a total fix by the end of Febuary with the installation of a new network to finally sort it out.

The really frustrating thing is that I can't even move ISP. There's no mechanic in place to migrate a LLU ADSL connection like there is with a non-LLU connection. If I want to move ISP, I have to cancel entirely and order from a new supplier which could leave me without an internet connection from 2-4 weeks and as we run a small business from home that's just not an option.

Anyway, that's my tale of woe over. If you think you might be having problems with your connection, L8NC is really useful (and free!).

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« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2006, 09:50:12 AM +0000 »

Yea I know can't believe I spun.. well didn't actually spin, was one of those snap oversteer on power in one direction a little and then 90 degrees in the other direction. Car was bit too eager to get on the power diff!! Can't complain with 4th though, that's twice in a row you managed to get my position Mo Tongue ..



It's actually the 3rd race in a row that I've inherited your position due to your misfortune Rich - not a nice way to decide the result so hopefully we can get some racing done next time  Grin
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« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2006, 11:37:15 AM +0000 »

Tx for the link Popa, going to try to test my line too! Smiley

What the heck is LLU or non-LLU ?!

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« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2006, 11:50:47 AM +0000 »

Had to write a little note on this...

Before I went off (the first time!) I found myself behind Jamera and catching him nicely. Truth be told I was a little starstruck (for want of a better word) at the thought that here in front of me was an experienced racer that I've seen so many times before up at the other end of the field. "Must have been something wrong in his qualy session" I thought but at the same time I didn't care. Grin

I caught him and even passed at the 3rd corner and that was the best feeling of racing I've had so far being part of this wonderful racing league.

Now fair enough, my inexperience kicked in after a few more corners and I lost the back end putting too much throttle on (trying to get away from Jam looming in my mirrors). You can say what you like about "going for the win", "accepting nothing less", etc, etc but for a relative noob, that was better than winning the championship and I have to thank all the guys that run this league again and again for that.

I think I'm getting a bit better every race but the enjoyment gained from being part of all this is hearty indeed and cheers for having me!

Just had to get that off my chest...
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« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2006, 12:20:11 PM +0000 »

Hehe, glad your enjoying it Edza, it is a great thrill getting past someone on track, especially the bigger or regular names, its like claiming a scalp ! Grin
I only joined in october and i remember feeling starstruck myself whenever i came near any of the 'star' drivers upfront and still do with the likes of Leuven and Mo, who i just get right out the way of !  But the rest i'll fight wheel to wheel with Wink

The pace will come once you get more familiar with the tracks, then you can start working on setting the car upto suit your preference and gradually get quicker and more consistent.
Then you get even more pressure being further up the pack !...but a bigger reward when you beat someone you used to be 'starstruck' with. Cool
Enjoy !!
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« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2006, 12:51:57 PM +0000 »

What the heck is LLU or non-LLU ?!

T

LLU is Local Loop Unbundling.

It's where the operator, BT in the UK (or Kingston for those in Hull  Wink) who traditionally had a monopoly, have to make lines that run from the customers houses to the exchange available to other companies. Those other companies can then upgrade individual lines to take advantage of faster / better technologies.

So, LLU broadband is using the same line but using different kit at the exchange to get faster speeds, non-LLU broadband uses BT's ADSL equipment (that can be re-sold to any provider).

So, with a non-LLU connection you can pretty much use any provider but you are limited to 2MB broadband. It's easy to switch providers becasue the equipment is the same.

With a LLU connection, if you were to switch providers, you'd effectively be using a completely different set of kit (that's not actually true but I won't complicate it further Cheesy) which is why it's been difficult for a migration procedure to be implemented...

See, you wish you'd never asked now!

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« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2006, 12:53:38 PM +0000 »

Hey Edza, nice post, glad you enjoyed yourself so much Smiley
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« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2006, 01:37:54 PM +0000 »

Nice post Edza. Good news, a year on and I still get that buzz. Although I don't get starstruck by a mere penguin, or legend for that matter  Tongue.
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« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2006, 07:23:14 PM +0000 »

Nice post Edza. Good news, a year on and I still get that buzz. Although I don't get starstruck by a mere penguin, or legend for that matter  Tongue.


EDZA IGNORE HIM!! Kerbcrawlers have a double meaning here you know  Wink lol  Grin
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« Reply #28 on: February 08, 2006, 07:23:20 PM +0000 »

Grats to Leuven again!

* [ZiP]Tyf waits

* [ZiP]Tyf is still waiting

... u peeps don't get it do ye?

It's his birthday! Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!  Afro Evil Hit with a wet fish Hit with a wet fish Afro Evil Evil Afro Hit with a wet fish

Cool

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Have a good un Leuv ; Kiss Kiss Kiss Tongue Cool Grin Cheesy Wink Smiley Kiss
 Afro Love the new yellow headed beastie's Evil Evil Afro
Happy Birthday Leuven Wink


Cheers fellas Grin, How are people finding out BTW? as I cant see the "members birthday today" on the front page thats sometimes on forums...............

EDIT: seen it on the calender, I'll have to pay more attention Roll Eyes, off to the pub soon  Grin but have a job interview tomorrow  :'( so I can't have too much to drink. Fancy having a birthday on a wednesday  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #29 on: February 08, 2006, 07:25:17 PM +0000 »

Had to write a little note on this...

Before I went off (the first time!) I found myself behind Jamera and catching him nicely. Truth be told I was a little starstruck (for want of a better word) at the thought that here in front of me was an experienced racer that I've seen so many times before up at the other end of the field. "Must have been something wrong in his qualy session" I thought but at the same time I didn't care. Grin

I caught him and even passed at the 3rd corner and that was the best feeling of racing I've had so far being part of this wonderful racing league.

Now fair enough, my inexperience kicked in after a few more corners and I lost the back end putting too much throttle on (trying to get away from Jam looming in my mirrors). You can say what you like about "going for the win", "accepting nothing less", etc, etc but for a relative noob, that was better than winning the championship and I have to thank all the guys that run this league again and again for that.

I think I'm getting a bit better every race but the enjoyment gained from being part of all this is hearty indeed and cheers for having me!

Just had to get that off my chest...

 Cool

One of the hardest things to do in Sim Racing is overtake cleanly, hence why it is so rewarding IMO Smiley

Me and Locutos had a great battle at monza GTL in the GT40's on saturday, we even managed to go into the braking zone at Turn 1 and through the chicane all pretty much side by side.
I was impressed by not only Locutos but also myself as we were able to do it well.  Cool
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