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February 24, 2013, 09:36:48 PM +0000 - Albi (1959-80) - UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Privateers Trophy (67)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
DLogan
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 3 +0.233
114.556mph
1 50:29.749
112.782mph
42 1:11.010
114.572mph
Goodyear  
Flow
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 2 +0.125
114.730mph
2 +35.191
111.487mph
42 1:10.848
114.834mph
Firestone  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 4 +0.267
114.501mph
3 +1:05.846
110.383mph
42 1:11.475
113.826mph
Goodyear  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 7 +1.850
112.005mph
4 +1L
109.722mph
41 1:12.725
111.870mph
Goodyear  
s2173
 Team7
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 1 1:10.787
114.933mph
5 +3.365
109.601mph
41 1:11.121
114.393mph
Firestone  
AnGex
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 8 +1.887
111.948mph
6 +10.366
109.349mph
41 1:12.864
111.657mph
Goodyear  
francesco
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 13 +3.408
109.653mph
7 +37.956
108.369mph
41 1:13.316
110.968mph
Goodyear  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 9 +2.046
111.704mph
8 +46.240
108.078mph
41 1:13.515
110.668mph
Goodyear  
HendyNichols
 
BRM P115 F1 1967 11 +2.602
110.858mph
9 +1:00.704
107.574mph
41 1:12.579
112.095mph
Goodyear  
tintin
 Clark-Hill Racing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 14 +3.646
109.303mph
10 +2L
105.517mph
40 1:14.301
109.497mph
Firestone  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 10 +2.248
111.395mph
11 +3.319
105.404mph
40 1:12.709
111.895mph
Goodyear  
Nigel Smith
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 12 +2.673
110.751mph
12 +3L
103.281mph
39 1:13.041
111.386mph
Goodyear  
il_lupo_mannaro
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 5 +1.532
112.498mph
13 +7L
106.492mph
35 1:11.983
113.023mph
Disco
Goodyear  
BadBlood
 Blue Moose Racing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 15 +3.757
109.140mph
14 +19.635
105.716mph
35 1:13.745
110.323mph
suspension
Firestone  
Geoff65
 Clark-Hill Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 6 +1.732
112.188mph
15 +10L
104.543mph
32 1:13.821
110.209mph
Disco
Goodyear  
James Andrew
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 17 +5.737
106.316mph
16 +41L
68.607mph
1 1:53.162
71.895mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Michael Turner
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 16 +3.936
108.879mph
17 +42L
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Disco
Goodyear  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 18 18 DNS ---
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Goodyear  

Moderator's Report

This was a difficult race to moderate. Lots of wheel banging and spins. Carnage at T1/T2. Albi is a difficult start and the incidents were largely a result of drivers being unsighted and a little incautious. That also applies to me although at the time I felt sinned against!

It is a good example of how an incident can be entirely different than how it 'felt' at the time.


Server replay time: 0h00m54s

Dean and Cookie contest T1 but Cookie is wobbling under the brakes. Neither does much wrong. Once again, Geoff finds that he has a target on his car and is collected by Cookie.


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Hendy is biffed from behind by Nigel as he slows for the carnage ahead


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BB and James contest T1 and neither do much wrong but GPL decides to spin them anyway. BB could have left more room.


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Florian is WAY too hot into T1 and spins off but manages to collect about three cars. There is no penalty for driving like a lunatic but if there was he would be excluded. As it is he seriously harmed several peoples races and he needs to slow down before going fast!


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BB fails to slow enough for the accidents ahead and taps Michael who has virtually stopped after Tintin spins in front of him.


Server replay time: 0h01m10s

Hendy is recovering and very tight at the turn. BB is coming from wide and partially loses control but cuts across Hendy. He should have been more patient.

The rules have this: "In a corner, after a legitimate overtaking attempt the cars end up side by side. One driver loses control and strays from their side of the track. Contact is made. Warning for driver that moves over."


Server replay time: 0h01m16s

This time Axel is on the inside and slides towards Dave Curtis who has overlap. There is no apparent contact but Dave spins. Again, neither driver did much wrong.


Server replay time: 0h02m03s

Florian is working his way back up and catches Fabio out at the last corner. Fabio has gone deep into the corner and although he is not spinning his line was unintentional. It was Lap 1 and Fabio is caught by surprise but should have been more cautious before driving back on to the line. He is experienced enough to know that if you make a mistake, you will often get somebody taking advantage.

The rules do not fully cover this eventuality but Fabio was careless.


Server replay time: 0h44m35s

Dean is lapping Bernie at DD and Bernie moves right a bit at the apex and gives Dean a fright. A slightly unseemly spat (a frank exchange of views?) ensues and after all that there isn't any contact.

Worth taking the time to remind drivers that blue flags are not advisory and you should get out of the way as soon as is practicable. Double Drat corner is an awkward place for such a pass.

Bernie could have stayed further left and Dean could have waited until the back straight...

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« on: February 19, 2013, 01:42:34 PM +0000 »

UKGPL Season 24 Graduates Trophy for Privateers
Race 4 Albi

The fourth round of the season finds us in France and the short but tricky airfield track at Albi. Circuit d’Albi is 2.2 miles long and is one of the oldest permanent race venues in the world, having been in operation for more than 70 years.

We will run Intermediate Damage with the allowance of ONE shift-R reset. No Shift-Rs are allowed in practice unless authorized by the moderator. A Shift-R (fault or not) MUST be followed by a Stop & Go. A Shift-R for tyres/fuel is not allowed. Any driver taking more then ONE Shift-R OR failing to take a Stop & Go will be disqualified from the race result.

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_T7_2
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = 24-02-2013
Race Time = race starts at 21:30 UK time
Qualifying Time = Between 30 and 60 minutes, starting no later than 21:00 UK time
Track = Albi
Variant = 67F1
Damage Model = INT
Race length = 50 minutes (laps 42)
Password: see above

Replays Available here

Driver lists and token rules can be found on the championship standings page

The track can be downloaded from the link in the race list above.


The full time drivers can start to practice as soon as the server is available.  Reserve drivers can also join as soon as the server becomes available but must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 5 minutes; this will allow any remaining full timers to join.  If there is enough space on the grid, the reserve drivers will be able to rejoin when there are 30 mins of qualifying left.  

Moderating The red zone will be fully moderated for lap 1 only. For this event the red zone will be the full lap. Other moderation will be on reported incidents only.  However any incidents that occur in the red zone that are not reported by the drivers will be reported by the moderator.  This will allow all affected drivers the opportunity to present their case before the incident is moderated.  This should ensure there are no surprises when the moderator's report is published and hence appeals will be less likely.  If you haven't received a PM about an incident before the link below the results table is removed, you can be sure that you will not appear in the moderator's report.

The chassis token system is explained on the Privateers standings page. Please ensure you choose a chassis that is within your budget, which can be seen by hovering the mouse over your points total in the standings.

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.
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« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2013, 12:16:12 AM +0000 »

Finding it pretty hard to get a Honda setup that suits me. I can do a high 1:13 which is marginally un-embarrassing but I can't manage it two laps in a row... Mind you, better than before I practised when I couldn't go as fast as in the 65's... I like Albi but it is going to be murder in the 67's...
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« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2013, 05:51:08 PM +0000 »

T7 server is set for 42 laps Long race and listening on Igor in  consolle session.
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« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2013, 09:51:34 PM +0000 »

Great. Didn't do any practice on what is possibly my favourite little track and managed to not only be slow but then blow my engine on about lap 3. Bugger.
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« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2013, 09:56:27 PM +0000 »

I really must get out of the habit of pressing ESC instead of S+R Embarrassed
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« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2013, 10:34:27 PM +0000 »

Ran out of fuel again. Set it to +5 laps, but ran out with 1 lap still. It must be something with this GPL installation, never happens on my other machine. Also, when I copy over the setup files they sometimes won't work on this installation.

Grats podium, sorry Billy Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2013, 10:45:13 PM +0000 »

I really must get out of the habit of pressing ESC instead of S+R Embarrassed


What a sickener , had a bout of that myself at one time  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2013, 10:47:06 PM +0000 »

Ran out of fuel again. Set it to +5 laps, but ran out with 1 lap still. It must be something with this GPL installation, never happens on my other machine. Also, when I copy over the setup files they sometimes won't work on this installation.

Grats podium, sorry Billy Smiley

Cant help with the fuel except tell you to buy more .

Try re naming the set up files GEM is a bit fussy in that area
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« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2013, 11:09:41 PM +0000 »

Ran out of fuel again. Set it to +5 laps, but ran out with 1 lap still. It must be something with this GPL installation, never happens on my other machine. Also, when I copy over the setup files they sometimes won't work on this installation.

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I've had something similar in the past, where I had to add probably an additional 15%+ of fuel.  I think I ended up re-installing (related to a whole bunch of issues) & the issue went away. 

I have a feeling the fuel issue may have cropped up after installing 1.3 patch,  but of course that may not have been relevant at all...
As for the setups,   is that incompatabilities between offline/online?    Again, I've had issues in the past where I've modified a setup (someone else's obviously!)  & tested with it ok,  then unable to use when either on/offline - I forget which way round it was.   May have been due to differences between versions of gpl.exe & gplc.exe (is that the one?) & the swapping that takes place.  Again, I think that was post-v1.3,  but GPL was generally getting more & more shot at the time.
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« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2013, 11:10:34 PM +0000 »

Wondered what had happened to you Michael.

Bad luck James.

I too ran out of fuel. I had set to 42 laps and felt that with being lapped two or three times it would be enough. I was pretty sure I would have to reset. For once I didn't and only lasted 35 laps!

Up until then I had some nice dices with Nigel, Billy, Dave, Fabio and Tintin. All of them were very fair - hope I was.

Great fun and the first time I had matched Dave C on the road. Super disappointed to run out of fuel.

Start was terrible though boys. SLOW DOWN! Part of me breathed a sigh of relief as I got away with being rear ended twice and then flipped into the air and I hit somebody who span in front of me. Part of me thought - "Oh dear. Big Red Zone mod..."

I'm looking now, and I am pretty sure I wasn't naughty for once!
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« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2013, 05:21:21 AM +0000 »

I enter the race with quite bad feelings about it and get ferrari just in spite of all - I have never finished a race with ferrari... the setup feels good, certainly, and I do a fastest lap and a pb. I try out some laps with full fuel load...all seems ok.

Then the starting grid. Florian, also with ferrari, has better start than me, passes me, than promptly spins infront of my nose on turn one - I have no way to avoid him. For a change my ferrari doesnt do an acrobatic showcase and doesn't explode like a unguided missile, so i continue on in still rather cheery mood, my seventh spot soon becomes third, as other cars fly off the track, poor victims of the cruel Inertia. Dean Logan is on first place, as after his rather unimpressive qualifying time he is suddenly doing pb after pb, and the distance to him is getting larger and larger, while I'm involved in rather fun battle with Bernie, who is also suprisingly fast. I guess I was the only one who didn't put turbocharger on the car before the race...

After that Bernie crashes at the dreaded aerodrome corner, the fun part ends and the nighmare begins... as several laps later, the backmarkers appear. Some clear the way (and crash in the bushes) but Geoff does a rather wierd stunt and manages to lose control while going perfectly straight, which to the untrained eye (mine) looks like he is giving me way. Then he spins completely and we end up behind the aerodrome corner fence with entangled limbs. Fortunately our clothes are on, so it doesnt look completely inappropriate, just abit.

None passes me, so i crawl out of the fence and continue on. The ferrari is battered, unhappy and sour. Im not too happy neither, but trying to keep the capricious car in check makes me focus better and even post the best lap of my race. The lap is not a good one tho, and the fact that the steering isnt working completely right might explain it.

I keep going like that suprisingly long time. In the meantime I have a bit of quarrel with Tintin, who is a backmarker, but decides to not let me through at the straght, but to race me into the Parc turn. His intentions are good, unfortunately his connection decides to have an epileptic seazure exactly in the same moment. I grind to a halt truyng to avoid his car, which manages to be at two places at once.

After some more laps I finally give up to the unbeareable temptation and crash out in the same damn aerodrome corner.  Then I am forced to do shift'r, which is extremely humiliating to my pride, and on top of that stop and go, which is against all my moral principles. After all that I come out extremely frustrated, and my idiotic driving turns into the driving of a raving drunk drugged madman. Despite that, after some more spins and lost spots I manage to finish.

My personal opinion tho is that I still havent been able to finish a race with ferrari - that race shouldnt count because of the shift'r, because of the deep dissatisfaction i ended the race with, because of my own stupdity and the stupidity of others, and because I dont like airfield tracks. Tongue
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« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2013, 03:08:10 PM +0000 »

As good as can be expected. Managed to crack the 1.12's in quallifying with a PB(OK, it's the only lap I have ever done below 1.13).
Having raced here a few times before I know that it is a track prone to spins. Even though I can't compete on speed with the front runners a mid-table finish is possible by staying on track. After the fast guys had caught up from the T1 incident I spent most of the race sandwiched between Fran & Hendy. Paul joined in for a few laps - showing good pace in a Honda. Fran was consistent & built up a minor lead, Hendy was much quicker but had a few spins in the BRM. He finally reeled me in about 38 & made a good pass, unfortunately we clipped wheels in the penultimate corner. Hendy had almost full overlap so I can't complain & I was gifted 8th place when he ran out of fuel on the laps lap (very bad luck).
Awared for best race report goes to Sky.
Next stop Imola - excellent track. I don't think I have driven there in a '67 car , so Tamborella should be fun!
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« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2013, 08:06:28 PM +0000 »

Lucky 4th place mostly due to others misfortunes , was hoping for a top 6 finish but didnt have to work to hard for it , I was gifted a flooky 2nd place soon after the dust had settled at landing strip corner but it didnt take long for the jet pilots to catch up with my old fokker  Wink  Then I got  into a steady race rythm with a speed that I could maintain with ease but then Sky came on strong from behind , not wanting to seem anti social but I thought it might be a good idea to keep him at arms length , he already outbraked me once earlier in the race so the only way for me to go faster and keep him where he belonged was for me to brake later into the braking zone , I was just starting to think how good I was doing when I overcooked it into the infamous bend , once he was through thought that was it but kept pressing as much as I could , on the penultimate lap I passed his recovering fezzer , felt really sorry escpecially after learning he had a faulty car , but what can you do in the circumstance , have to admit i did allow a little smiley  Smiley

Grats to rocket powered Dean , Florian & Axel commiserations to soggy team mate Micheal ( ya dozy git  Grin ) well done all survivers , hard luck those who went home early  Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2013, 08:11:51 PM +0000 »

First off: sorry to Axel for T1. I knew you were there, and tried to leave room, but it's hard with these beasts on cold tires. Sad

Managed to thread the needle between spinning Ferraris ahead, built a gap as others recovered, and was a fairly uneventful race from there on in.

As for the lapped traffic: watching the replay, most of the time I just managed to approach people at really inconvenient times. There was only once that someone really shouldn't have done what they did (and an incident report has been filed). Otherwise, pretty good job all around (the swearing coming from my cockpit? just heat of the moment, nvm, nothing to see here, move along).

Now do I spend the tokens for a Ferrari at Imola? Oh, heck, yeah! V12 baby! POWAAAHH!! Grin
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« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2013, 08:32:41 PM +0000 »

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Bernie Darwin failure to yield lap 37

The incident involved the following drivers:•Bernie Darwin (bernie)
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Sorry mate just looked at the replay and dont see anything wrong with my driving , suggest you look again , Its plain to see  I "gave " you the corner , unless you really think its neccesary for me to pull into the lay by to let you through I really dont see what your gripe is .

not as if you were racing anyone but yourself and you had all the time in the world plus the speed to pass me down the straight .

jeez some folk are never happy , what do you want blood  Roll Eyes
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