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  • Endurance S2R1 - Barcelona: February 19, 2006
February 19, 2006, 09:08:24 PM +0000 - Barcelona (GP) - UKGTR GTR1 Endurance Season 2
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Jon Chadwick
 Team Shark
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 1 1:38.715
106.936mph
1 1:20:28.975
100.557mph
46 1:39.886
105.683mph
Michelin  
Rich_A
 CBFR
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 2 +0.300
106.612mph
2 +17.096
100.202mph
46 1:40.553
104.982mph
Michelin  
D Boyd
 GTN Drivers Club
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 3 +0.501
106.397mph
3 +25.824
100.022mph
46 1:39.640
105.944mph
Michelin  
CeeJay
 GTN Drivers Club
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 4 (+6) +43.735
99.654mph
46 1:38.488
107.183mph
Michelin  
greg130
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 5 +1.390
105.452mph
5 +1:16.584
98.987mph
46 1:40.667
104.863mph
Michelin  
aajay_uk
 28CD Motorsports
Lister Storm GT1 9 +2.382
104.417mph
6 (+2) +1L
97.262mph
45 1:42.962
102.526mph
Dunlop  
enz13_gt
 
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT GT1 7 +2.010
104.803mph
7 +9.770
97.068mph
45 1:42.949
102.538mph
Michelin  
mo
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 12 +5.853
100.951mph
8 +2L
95.655mph
44 1:46.962
98.691mph
Dunlop  
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 19 +8.024
98.898mph
9 +1:22.186
94.063mph
44 1:46.936
98.715mph
Dunlop  
Jakob_Schmidt
 HikiWazaRacing
Mosler MT900R NGT 15 +7.211
99.657mph
10 +3L
93.616mph
43 1:47.284
98.395mph
Dunlop  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 17 +7.617
99.276mph
11 +27.960
93.079mph
43 1:48.064
97.685mph
Dunlop  
popabawa
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 14 +7.040
99.818mph
12 +1:22.415
92.051mph
43 1:47.819
97.907mph
Dunlop  
Jamera
 Ze insane Penguins
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 23 +10.052
97.054mph
13 +4L
90.987mph
42 1:48.780
97.042mph
Pirelli  
Don
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 18 +7.980
98.938mph
14 42 1:48.355
97.423mph
fuel
Dunlop  
[ZiP]Tyf
 Ze insane Penguins
Porsche 996 GT2 Bi-turbo NGT 16 +7.530
99.357mph
15 +5L
88.283mph
41 1:46.944
98.708mph
Pirelli  
whitham69
 Team Unpronounceable
Porsche 993 GT2 GT1 13 +6.414
100.412mph
16 +17.191
87.975mph
41 1:46.564
99.060mph
Dunlop  
Nakano_56
 Kerb Crawlers
Lister Storm GT1 6 +1.422
105.418mph
17 (+5) +7L 39 1:40.793
104.732mph
suspension
Dunlop  
maverick
 
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 22 +9.351
97.683mph
18 +20L 26 1:49.433
96.463mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Spudgun
 
Lister Storm GT1 8 +2.287
104.515mph
19 +22L 24 1:42.751
102.736mph
engine
Dunlop  
Edza
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 24 +15.434
92.478mph
20 +27L 19 1:50.954
95.141mph
unknown
Dunlop  
longskater1969
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 21 +8.534
98.427mph
21 +41L 5 1:49.772
96.165mph
suspension
Pirelli  
Hereford 451
 
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT GT1 11 +5.409
101.381mph
22 +44L 2 2:14.363
78.565mph
unknown
Michelin  
J3c
 
Saleen S7-R GT1 4 +1.141
105.715mph
23 +45L 1 2:44.451
64.191mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Chunky
 
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 20 +8.200
98.735mph
+46L 0 ---
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unknown
Dunlop  
Iain
 Ze insane Penguins
Lister Storm GT1 10 +4.505
102.269mph
DNS ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

This was an incident filled race. I've seen some overly aggressive driving which will be not tolerated.

As it is almost impossible to check the entire replay I have only been looking at the reported incidents and some incidents on the formation lap.


Although we don't have a replay from the qualifying session I would like to remind you all of some basic qualifying session guidelines.

Chatting is only allowed in practise and warmup session. Only chat messages like 'pit in', 'pit out' and other messages from the same nature are allowed in the other sessions.

When you are on your outlap remember you have cold tires and brakes so stay off the racing line as much as possible and move off line when a faster car is approaching.

Also I got some complaints about speeding in the pitlane. Remember the pit lane speed limit should be obeyed in all sessions.


Then I would like to remember everyone of the fact there is a formation lap. A few people seemed to have forgotten.

Don't start driving before the driver in front of you does and keep your distance. When you overtake on the formation lap by accident make sure you give the gained spots back.

I've seen some people driving with their lights on for no reason. Keep in mind driving with lights turned on is only allowed when driving in rain conditions or when you are the class leader. When a different driver is the current leader please don't forget to turn them off again.


Server replay time: 221s

Nakano_56 gets next to Greg130 in Elf. Nakano_56 has some contact with Greg130 in the following lefthander.

  • Nakano_56 (nakano_56)penalty — over-ambitious overtaking attempt at the first lap — 3 places lost


Server replay time: 851s

Sponsored by Ginsters runs offtrack at La Caixa. He runs all the way through the graveltrap and rejoins at the straight after the corner. At the same moment Jakob Schmidt comes out of La Caixa and thinks Sponsored by Ginsters is behind him at the next corner. There is some contact between them.

As it is difficult to judge a rejoiners' speed I would like to advice to keep a steady pace until you have made sure there is nobody behind you.


Server replay time: 1018s

Whitham69 follows Jamera into Repsol. He dives to the inside of the corner but is still behind at the corner entry. Whitham69 later explained he thought Jamera was running wide.

  • whitham69penalty — contact with Jamera — 2 places lost
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 1153s

Maverick is being lapped by Greg130 on the straight before Repsol. Then there is some contact when they go in to Repsol together. It's unclear if this is an unlapping attempt or that Maverick just had missed his braking point.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 1409s

Claus Jewel is in a fight for 4th spot with Greg130. Claus taps the right rear of Greg130's car, who almost loses controll.


Server replay time: 1504s

Nakano_56 is attempting to lap Popabawa at La Caixa. Nakano_56 goes a bit wide and Popabawa hits him.


Server replay time: 1506s

UPDATE:

D Boyd is gaining on Edza pretty fast. Just before the last corner D Boyd thinks Edza is going to let him pass. In fact the blue flag even wasn't shown yet to Edza. D Boyd just barges into the back of Edza who spins off and hits the wall pretty hard.

This incident is put in after the report is published and went by unreported. The penalty will be reduced to a caution. Keep in mind this would have been a 2 place penalty when it was reported and put in before the report was published.


Server replay time: 1606s

Nakano_56 laps Sponsored by Ginsters just before La Caixa while he is following Greg130. Then he dives to the inside of the corner while Greg130 is already moving to the apex. The contact which follows knocks Greg130 into the graveltrap.


Server replay time: 1855s

UPDATE:

Boyd is about to lap Mo when they get to Repsol. Boyd drives his car to the inside of the corner and taps the right rear of Mo's car. Mo has to travel through the gravel trap to get back on the track again. This was an unnecesary incident as Boyd could have easily passed Mo under power at the following straight.

As this incident is put in after publication the given penalty will be diregarded.


Server replay time: 2018s

Claus Jewel is trying to lap Whitham69 for a while. At the second to last corner he hits the right rear of Whitham69's car sending him into a spin.


Server replay time: 3270s

Whitham69 is taking his planned pitstop. Aajay_UK drives into the pits some time after that and starts pushing Whitham69 out of the way. Because Whitham69 was pushed out of his pit space it also stopped the refuelling, making Whitham69 have to come around the track to get enough fuel to finish the race.

Later he explained his pitcrew was telling him to move forward and he had no choice. What he should have done is wait until Whitham69's pitstop was finished and then move forward.

Aajay_UK's race already was spoiled, he shouldn't have spoiled Whitham69's race too. Therefore I'm forced to issue a 2 place penalty for this incident.

  • aajay_ukpenalty — pushing Whitham69 out of his pit space — 2 places lost


Server replay time: 3994s

Claus Jewel is following Greg130 at a short distance when they go through New Holland. At the apex of the corner he starts to close in even more and finally bumps into Greg130.

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GTR
GT1
1:38.488
107.183mph
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« Reply #105 on: February 22, 2006, 12:18:10 PM +0000 »

I don't see why it would be a major problem advancing the session from the server when the time comes. We just say the sessions are X length and they will be wound on at the right time whether you are on track or not, that's just like the game winding it on except it's one of us doing it over VNC.

We seem to be getting even more complaints about the server and problems recently both in the Sprints and Endurance (so aside from any addon car problems) and I am growing increasingly concerned that we should move onto 1.5 in case that is the root of the problems (certainly seen posts on RSC saying 1.5 fixed lag and server capacity issues). We really don't want to have to put the server capacity down to 22 on GTR otherwise we'll be kicking out full time drivers and reducing the class fields to 11 each, neither of which are desirable, but me may have to consider it?

Perhaps we could have a single race test with a full server on 1.5?

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« Reply #106 on: February 22, 2006, 01:18:50 PM +0000 »

We seem to be getting even more complaints about the server and problems recently both in the Sprints and Endurance (so aside from any addon car problems) and I am growing increasingly concerned that we should move onto 1.5 in case that is the root of the problems (certainly seen posts on RSC saying 1.5 fixed lag and server capacity issues).Perhaps we could have a single

We were successfully running 24-car grids on 1.4 at the end of last year when Sprint Season 2 began, were we not? So how could 1.4 be the problem?

race test with a full server on 1.5?

Was that you volunteering to organise and run it?  Wink
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« Reply #107 on: February 22, 2006, 01:31:09 PM +0000 »

I wasn't really aware of server grumbles for Sprint races. If these are getting worse then reducing the server capacity to 22 will not help as a quick count up from the results shows the server to have not been full for the last few rounds, NGT or GT.

We can test 1.5 but I'd suggest we tested like for like, virgin 1.4 vs. virgin 1.5. A skin test could follow. BTW I'm not too keen on the VNC server advancement route, it does steal quite a bit of CPU time. Along with GTR's flakeyness for Alt-Tab I can see administering the server spoiling a fair few races for those controlling it.
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« Reply #108 on: February 22, 2006, 02:59:47 PM +0000 »

We were successfully running 24-car grids on 1.4 at the end of last year when Sprint Season 2 began, were we not? So how could 1.4 be the problem?

Just yes, 24 was just starting to feel the pinch of the server limitations, but it did just manage it. I do not know how 1.4 could be the problem it doesn't make much sense to me either. If there is a problem maybe it's changes to the lobby that Simbin have made that we do not know about that is affecting it. We know how badly integrated the multiplayer game is with the lobby and the carnage it has caused in the past. We also do not know what effect people that have run 1.5 patch and then downgraded has had, perhaps some of the files haven't been downgraded and that is causing a problem.

We can only guess and also make some educated guesses by what others have experienced between the versions.

I know I heard of others in the sprints start complaining (including me) about FPS really buggering up for no reason I think after christmas time. Even my old machine was fully capable of running GTR and I had previously had no FPS issues. They just suddenly started happening at one race and for me didn't go away till I changed my PC.

Was that you volunteering to organise and run it?  Wink

Maybe, although obviously not till next week. We also have to somehow gaurantee a full server, which is no easy thing.

I wasn't really aware of server grumbles for Sprint races. If these are getting worse then reducing the server capacity to 22 will not help as a quick count up from the results shows the server to have not been full for the last few rounds, NGT or GT.

From what I've seen there have been far more server discos since christmas time as well as these myseterious FPS issues (even in the sprint races with reduced fields).
Yes you're right the server capacity probably wont make any difference for these oddities.

We can test 1.5 but I'd suggest we tested like for like, virgin 1.4 vs. virgin 1.5. A skin test could follow. BTW I'm not too keen on the VNC server advancement route, it does steal quite a bit of CPU time. Along with GTR's flakeyness for Alt-Tab I can see administering the server spoiling a fair few races for those controlling it.

I have 2 PCs next to each other and ability to flip my monitor between them as well as seperate keyboard/mouse so it's not a problem for at least one of us  Smiley Tongue as I just use VNC on my other PC rather than try and ALT+TAB my GTR game.

CPU time shouldn't be a problem as we are just advancing the session so it would only be for a few seconds and it would be part of the session change.

Obviously we don't really want to rely on just one person with the ability to do all this though. Although Gizmo does not take part in the Sprints so he could do the VNC stuff for Sprints and yourself, Aagramn and Gizmo all don't do the Endurance so one of you could do the VNC stuff for Endurance (or I could as I will be there). Possible anyway.
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« Reply #109 on: February 22, 2006, 09:22:28 PM +0000 »

You don't leave VNC on do you?

I've found it usually runs at minimal CPU but sometimes just goes insane and eats your CPU.

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« Reply #110 on: February 22, 2006, 09:56:49 PM +0000 »

You don't leave VNC on do you?

I've found it usually runs at minimal CPU but sometimes just goes insane and eats your CPU.

I must admit I have a nightly script on my server which bounces the VNC service every night "just in case", although that was because it sometimes stopped responding rather than ate CPU.

When was the box last rebooted?
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« Reply #111 on: February 22, 2006, 09:56:55 PM +0000 »

You don't leave VNC on do you?

I've found it usually runs at minimal CPU but sometimes just goes insane and eats your CPU.

No we don't as it sucks up the CPU. I just open and close it on my other PC as and when I need to.
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« Reply #112 on: February 22, 2006, 10:21:16 PM +0000 »

When was the box last rebooted?

I rebooted it before 2nd skin test race. Not sure I have done it since.
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