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  • S2469X Monza: March 08, 2013
March 08, 2013, 09:47:42 PM +0000 - Monza (GP 1955-71) - UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Hristo Itchov
 
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 2 +0.173
149.392mph
1 49:34.819
147.020mph
34 1:25.630
150.222mph
Dunlop  
Piero Mercaldo
 Squadra Padova Corse
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 1 1:25.933
149.692mph
2 (+2) +17.231
146.174mph
34 1:26.483
148.740mph
Dunlop  
Artiglietti
 
McLaren M7 (DFV) F1 1969 3 +0.290
149.189mph
3 +30.596
145.524mph
34 1:26.435
148.823mph
Firestone  
DLogan
 
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 15 +1.525
147.082mph
4 +33.166
145.399mph
34 1:27.411
147.161mph
Dunlop  
MagicArsouille
 
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 6 +0.925
148.098mph
5 +34.324
145.343mph
34 1:26.274
149.101mph
Dunlop  
robert john
 
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 19 6 +47.272
144.721mph
34 1:27.304
147.342mph
Firestone  
Flow
 
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 12 +1.295
147.470mph
7 +47.304
144.719mph
34 1:26.839
148.131mph
Dunlop  
NickyIckx
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 9 +1.045
147.894mph
8 +1L
142.617mph
33 1:27.084
147.714mph
Dunlop  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 11 +1.291
147.477mph
9 +12.528
142.019mph
33 1:27.338
147.284mph
Dunlop  
HendyNichols
 
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 16 +1.562
147.020mph
10 +41.228
140.668mph
33 1:28.102
146.007mph
Firestone  
Ronniepeterson
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 14 +1.447
147.213mph
12 +12L
141.106mph
22 1:27.586
146.867mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Marco Mercaldo
 Squadra Padova Corse
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 5 +0.675
148.526mph
13 (+2) +16L
139.287mph
18 1:27.420
147.146mph
Disco
Dunlop  
G Jonsson
 Black Night Racing
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 7 +0.929
148.091mph
16 +34L
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0 ---
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accident
Firestone  
AnGex
 Black Night Racing
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 10 +1.089
147.819mph
17
---
0 ---
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Disco
Firestone  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 13 +1.395
147.301mph
18
---
0 ---
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Disco
Firestone  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
McLaren M7 (DFV) F1 1969 18 19 DNS ---
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Firestone  
fpolicardi
 Team7
McLaren M7 (DFV) F1 1969 17 +1.628
146.909mph
Excluded +1L
139.502mph
33 1:27.938
146.279mph
Firestone  
Baab
 Team Baarf
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 4 +0.510
148.809mph
Excluded +17L
139.531mph
17 1:26.953
147.936mph
Disco
Dunlop  
natan5
 NVRacing
McLaren M7 (DFV) F1 1969 8 +1.004
147.964mph
Excluded +22L
137.321mph
12 1:27.915
146.318mph
Disco
Firestone  

Moderator's Report

The driving standards in the 69X continue to surprise...


Server replay time: 0

Fulvio, Bob and Natan all forget that they are allowed ONE Shift-R only and get a bit greedy. Bob\'s second Shift-R is just outside the pits after his stop\'n\'go and is very mysterious... answers on a postcard.

Unfortunately for these three the penalty is clear... DQ :(


Server replay time: 0h01m30s

Bob tries to get inside Art at Lesmo 2 but he overcooks it and spins. That pushes Art on to the fence and then cars arrive at regular intervals to add to the mess. The initial incident is a Racing Incident with neither party doing much wrong although Bob would have been wiser to be more patient.

I am not going to moderate the afters but watching some of the recovery driving is amazing(ly bad). Feel particularly sorry for Andreas whose fiery wreck is assailed by three impatient souls. Hang your heads...


Server replay time: 0h28m00s

Marco has a lap to forget...

First of all he passes Bob at Parabolica but leaves his braking too late and takes Bob out.

He spins and then drives back on to the racing line straight in front of Hristo. Rules say: The rejoining driver was in full control but nevertheless drove straight back onto the track without leaving enough room for other cars. Contact was NOT made but other drivers had to take avoiding action.

As H catches up and pulls out to pass Marco maintains his line and is clearly having a nice snooze and takes the leader out... problem here was that Marco drifted from right to left which made it difficult for H to go right. Marco needed to maintain his line. Rules say: On a straight, the overtaking car moves out to overtake, maintains his line and has NOT achieved 100% overlap but the overtaken driver moves across into him. Penalty for overtaken driver.

Not great.


Server replay time: 0h45m00s

Art has passed Piero and Piero wants to try and get back quickly.

I cannot really put it better than Art does.

[I entered the bend ahead and stayed on the outside, Piero tried to undercut to the inside, but was way too fast, lost the rear, wiped me off]

Piero MUST take more care when involved in close racing. This is a developing pattern.

The closest guideline is: The victim made no mistakes and was driving their normal line at normal speed. The shunter had lost control on the approach to the braking zone and consequently braked later than intended.

  • Piero Mercaldopenalty — Simple Rear End Shunt — 1 place lost (plus 1 for penalty points)

March 08, 2013, 09:49:01 PM +0000 - Monza (GP 1955-71) - UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
philippe GIRARD
 Blue Moose Racing
McLaren M7 (DFV) F1 1969 1 1:27.743
146.591mph
1 50:57.240
143.044mph
34 1:28.153
145.909mph
Firestone  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
McLaren M7 (DFV) F1 1969 4 +0.838
145.204mph
2 +5.629
142.781mph
34 1:28.132
145.944mph
Firestone  
Geoff65
 Clark-Hill Racing
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 3 +0.798
145.270mph
3 +31.288
141.594mph
34 1:28.046
146.086mph
Dunlop  
francesco
 
McLaren M7 (DFV) F1 1969 5 +1.398
144.292mph
4 +1L
141.549mph
33 1:29.327
143.991mph
Firestone  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Lotus 49 (1969) F1 1969 8 +4.489
139.456mph
5 +1:34.912
137.206mph
33 1:31.682
140.293mph
Firestone  
Adam Cooper
 Team Coyote
McLaren M7 (DFV) F1 1969 7 +3.286
141.299mph
6 +16L
135.369mph
18 1:31.468
140.621mph
Disco
Firestone  
BadBlood
 Blue Moose Racing
McLaren M7 (DFV) F1 1969 6 +2.825
142.018mph
7 +20L
136.778mph
14 1:29.654
143.466mph
Disco
Firestone  
il_lupo_mannaro
 Black Night Racing
McLaren M7 (DFV) F1 1969 2 +0.100
146.424mph
8 +27L
140.755mph
7 1:28.769
144.896mph
Disco
Firestone  
Johnny.P
 Blue Moose Racing
Eagle AAR101 F1 1969 9 +10.838
130.475mph
9 +28L
124.626mph
6 1:38.978
129.951mph
Disco
Goodyear  
JonnyO
 Team Coyote
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 10 +20.121
119.246mph
10 +33L
125.942mph
1 1:38.189
130.995mph
Disco
Firestone  
UKGPL 3
 
McLaren M7 (DFV) F1 1969 11 11 DNS ---
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Firestone  

Moderator's Report

69X, Monza... what could POSSIBLY go wrong???

Actually, not much. Badblood and Johnny.P suffer early blown engines but then nothing worth mentioning until the last lap.


Server replay time: 0h50m54s

As Fran himself says - replay of the incident in the Privateers. Different driver on the inside, same result. Same moderation...

Geoff is quicker than Fran and has the inside line at Curva Grande. Tricky place to make it stick and Fran is unlucky in that GPL always seems to punish the outside car. However, it is the last lap and self preservation says \"Do not risk it\". Fran either hopes Geoff will back out or that GPL will be kind. Neither happens.

From Geoffs POV he has already made the pass. From Frans POV Geoff is invisible as he turns in.

Drivers are reminded (again) that if the car has disappeared from your mirrors and has not appeared in front, you should assume he is alongside.

The rules have this: Contested Overtake - The overtaking car had achieved a 50% or greater overlap but not 100% or greater at the point of turn-in and both drivers were in full control.

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« on: March 03, 2013, 11:45:06 PM +0000 »

UKGPL Season 24 Extra Trophy (69X)
Race 4 Monza

Welcome to the fourth round of the Extra Trophy for 69 Extra chassis. Monza. Enough said.

The first lap will be fully moderated within the red zone. The red zone will extend to the whole of the first lap.

Please check the Season 24 pages for details regarding rules and the Extra Trophy pages in particular.

It is very important that drivers are FULLY familiar with the rules relating to Shift-R. ONLY ONE IS ALLOWED and a Shift-R MUST be followed by a Stop-and-Go or the driver will be excluded.

If two servers are required they will be as below but if only one grid is required, we will race on T7.

Race listiGOR
LIGHT ServerUKGPL_T7_2
IP address62.149.202.168
HEAVY ServerUKGPL3
IP addressping ukgpl3.dyndns.org
Date08-03-2013
Race timeRace starts at 21:30 UK time
Qualifying timeBetween 30 and 60 minutes, starting no later than 21:00 UK time
TrackMonza (Papy)
Mod69X
Damage modelINT
Race length34 laps
ReplayAvailable here


Reserve drivers please note; you must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 10 minutes, to allow full timers to join. FULL TIME DRIVERS GET PRIORITY.

Heavy and Light drivers will drive on separate servers. Please ensure that you know which class you are and that you join the right server

LIGHTS on UKGPL_T7_2; HEAVY on UKGPL3

The Light and Heavy Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page

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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2013, 10:56:29 AM +0000 »

T7 server is set for 34 laps Long race and listening on Igor in console session with OpenGL.
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« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2013, 09:23:53 PM +0000 »

I am getting quite used to being disco'd in races recently. But this seemed a little harsh!!

About 12 minutes of qually still to go and I get a sudden black screen and GPL completely crashes back to Igor, not like my usual gremlin activity. Immediately I try and rejoin server but join button is greyed out.

Igor will not let me join the race because IT IS FULL??
 It almost seemed like I was replaced??? Probably just coincidence that whoever joined last saw the vacancy just as I was ejected....rats!!

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Well it appears that the server was shut down lol...so not a disco. I guess I was just the first to go lol.

Not that it mattered much, lesmo 2 became a scrap metal dealers heaven on lap 1 and my race was over. Shocked/
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« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2013, 09:36:06 PM +0000 »

Immediately I try and rejoin server but join button is greyed out.Igor will not let me join the race because IT IS FULL??
 It almost seemed like I was replaced??? Probably just coincidence that whoever joined last saw the vacancy just as I was ejected....rats!!

when you get disco / crash like that you will still be listed by igor as still being on the server . however when you get a disco from a sever you sometimes have to wait a couple of minutes till the server works out you have discoed and you can join again , you could re join straight away with another name , but you will lose any time you set .

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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2013, 10:14:15 PM +0000 »

Very sorry about the confusion guys. There were only 13 drivers at 9pm. Went and made a cup of tea and suddenly 28 drivers d'oh.

Had to crash T7 so sorry about that. I will do the import tomorrow.

As for my race had fun catching Bernie after I blew my engine off the line (again) and then... blew my engine...

Not sure what Johnny P had done but I think he left the handbrake on Wink

One last thing... had so little time to join that I am not sure what I drove... I'll find out tomorrow!
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« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2013, 10:14:50 PM +0000 »

Not that it mattered much, lesmo 2 became a scrap metal dealers heaven on lap 1 and my race was over. Shocked/


Errr - you do have one Shift/R
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« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2013, 10:19:49 PM +0000 »

I think your right Paul. I did no practice just grabbed a car at 9 .00pm and just sorted the tyres and gears out but could not believe I was 10 seconds a lap down. It was handling ok but had no speed- maybe I'll give the 69's a miss.  Sad
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« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2013, 10:22:53 PM +0000 »

NOOOO... get back in boy...

Your wings must have been set fat - makes a HUGE difference. I actually thought you were in a 65... Wink

Just checked the replay to see whether I needed to apologise to Bernie for our coming together on Lap 13.... I don't!  Cheesy
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« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2013, 10:32:17 PM +0000 »


Not that it mattered much, lesmo 2 became a scrap metal dealers heaven on lap 1 and my race was over. Shocked/


Guilty I'm afraid.  I tried a move down the inside of Attilio and was alongside, but he mustn't have seen me and when he turned in I braked and span...I knew it wasn't going to be pretty.  Sorry everyone.

Bob.

P.S re the conversation about joining last min and being miles off the pace, I didn't have a setup and didn't really know which car to take, but after a visit to the alternative db I d/l'd a steve cloyd setup for the brab and it worked a treat, pity my driving didn't live up to it.
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« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2013, 10:44:24 PM +0000 »

Errr - you do have one Shift/R

YES EVERYONE, ONE SHIFT-R FOLLOWED BY A STOP AND GO!!!!!!!
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« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2013, 10:53:12 PM +0000 »

NOOOO... get back in boy...

Your wings must have been set fat - makes a HUGE difference. I actually thought you were in a 65... Wink

Just checked the replay to see whether I needed to apologise to Bernie for our coming together on Lap 13.... I don't!  Cheesy

But i might have to , another late joiner here , grabbed the lotus which I found was handling like a shopping trolley , tried to sort it in qually but made things worse , kept going into snap oversteer in curva grand , darting all over the track and dead slow out of every corner escp. parabolica where you really need the speed for the straight . tow was no good either just got left for dead by those who lapped me , getting lapped at Monza isnt my idea of fun , think ill kick the 69X  in touch , cant get to grips with them , never have done , and seems I never will   Undecided

Sorry for the contact Paul not seen the replay so not sure yet what happend (thought maybe you were trying to lap me  Grin) , hope you enjoyed the piggy back ride even if a little brief  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2013, 11:01:09 PM +0000 »

  BRAVO PHILL !!!!!!!!! 
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« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2013, 11:06:58 PM +0000 »

Yeah, guilty of this one I guess, as I completely missed Bob sneaking by at the first of Lesmo, and just went for the apex at the second. I was following Paolo (?) and playing a bit with the gas to make sure I wouldnt rearend him at Lesmo2, so, I guess that helped Bob to gain almost complete overlap by the second bend. I suppose that one is on me, apologies to all involved guys, still why people go for a move like that, in the tighest corner and at L1 of a drafting race is beyond me, especially with these wide cars..I know thats not everybody's mentality, but with a bit of patience it would have been a really fun race with many cars fighting for a podium finish. I was actually by myself for 2 thirds of the time, at Monza.. Roll Eyes

I had taken out some wing for the race, knowing it was going to hit my laptimes, but thinking in a drafting race that wouldnt really be noticable and it would  give me some margin if it went  to the wire, not a good idea, it made me so tentative in the bends I couldnt even keep up with H's tow! In the end I was serenely taken out by a semi-out of control Paolo, had to S&R and S&G, still made it third across the line but I suppose it wont hold..Grats H, and finishers.
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« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2013, 11:24:59 PM +0000 »

I'm very frustrated with both Mercaldos. After one of them turned into me without reason on the s/f straight before the server restart and ruined my lap, I then had to completely slow down to evade a 90 degree bad rejoin by Marco at Parabolica and then he did exactly the same thing as what I mentioned happened in the first qualifying session, squeezing me to the left as I was lapping him and causing an accident, which dropped me from a 10 seconds lead down to 3rd place behind Art. And then there's Piero, who is driving like a maniac, attacking at every possible place regardless whether there's enough room or not, as well as squeezing on corner exits and not only putting us both under risk, but losing us a lot of time and allowing Art to close in. I had to do some extreme evasion action and take ridiculous lines to give him room and save myself from being rearended. Fortunately I had my car setup for straight line speed and with some on-the-edge driving through the slower corners, I managed to escape in front again near the end.

It was a very very intense race, but not really enjoyable. It's not fun racing with people who are barely in control and don't know how to race.
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« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2013, 12:09:37 AM +0000 »

Shame Hristo - the Heavies was quite good fun.

@Bernie - stick with it mate and I'll give you some wheel to wheel. You slid into me but that is racing. I am not going to report it and you could save the mod some work by not reporting it either... who is the series Mod?  Wink

While I am on, sorry that the Race 3 hasn't been finished I have a bad chest infection and I haven't been around too much... I'll try and get it done tomorrow.
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