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March 19, 2013, 09:36:00 PM +0000 - Zandvoort (1948-72) - UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Novices Trophy (65)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Johnny.P
 Blue Moose Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 6 +1.829
103.606mph
1 41:26.315
101.800mph
27 1:30.597
103.473mph
Dunlop  
Ross Hawkey
 Clark-Hill Racing
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 7 +1.922
103.500mph
2 +1.437
101.741mph
27 1:30.953
103.068mph
Dunlop  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 13 +2.701
102.617mph
3 +25.604
100.762mph
27 1:30.324
103.785mph
Goodyear  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 5 +1.736
103.713mph
4 +28.109
100.662mph
27 1:31.005
103.009mph
Goodyear  
BadBlood
 Blue Moose Racing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 12 +2.580
102.754mph
5 +53.913
99.639mph
27 1:31.803
102.113mph
Goodyear  
PaulV
 Blue Moose Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 14 +3.063
102.212mph
6 +1:03.685
99.257mph
27 ---
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Dunlop  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 10 +2.344
103.020mph
7 +1:10.940
98.976mph
27 1:31.373
102.594mph
Goodyear  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 9 +2.333
103.033mph
8 (+1) +1L
97.908mph
26 1:30.970
103.048mph
Dunlop  
Nigel Smith
 Blue Moose Racing
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 16 +4.512
100.623mph
9 +3.940
97.753mph
26 1:31.154
102.840mph
Dunlop  
Andy Miller
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 2 +0.336
105.345mph
10 +25.978
96.897mph
26 1:30.021
104.135mph
Goodyear  
Boggy
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 15 +3.315
101.932mph
11 +40.941
96.324mph
26 1:31.455
102.502mph
Goodyear  
Giovani
 Team Coyote
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 1 1:28.651
105.744mph
12 +4L
104.199mph
23 1:29.163
105.137mph
Disco
Dunlop  
happyal
 Clark-Hill Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 3 +1.047
104.510mph
13 +55.574
101.474mph
23 1:29.972
104.191mph
Disco
Dunlop  
philippe GIRARD
 Blue Moose Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 17 +5.798
99.253mph
14 +12L
94.059mph
15 1:33.667
100.081mph
Disco
Dunlop  
blito
 Shadows
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 11 +2.561
102.775mph
15 +17L
97.304mph
10 1:32.201
101.673mph
accident
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 18 +6.924
98.083mph
16 +21L
90.393mph
6 1:36.781
96.861mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Geoff65
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 4 +1.655
103.806mph
17 +23L
100.986mph
4 1:31.576
102.366mph
Disco
Dunlop  
il_lupo_mannaro
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 8 +2.046
103.359mph
18 +26L
95.753mph
1 1:37.402
96.244mph
Disco
Dunlop  
UKGPL 3
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 19 19 DNS ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Not too much action in the Red Zone but some evidence of Warp issues.

Drivers are reminded that when the pack is in close formation, warp is highly likely and drivers should leave room accordingly.


Server replay time: 0h00m57s

Andy takes the racing line at T1 but Gio is entitle to hold his line and Andy comes of worst.

There is some evidence of warp. Andy would have been better advised to take a wide line.


Server replay time: 0h02m06s

Nigel spins and Phillipe is unable to avoid him. Nigel then warps into Tonys path but both continue. As Phillipe rejoins he nearly collects Tony. Always worth waiting until it is nice and quiet...


Server replay time: 0h27m52s

Dave brakes quite late into Tarzanbocht. He has forgotten the effects of draft and tries hard to avoid Boggy but this was a very avoidable accident.

Rules have this: The victim made no mistakes and was driving their normal line at normal speed. The shunter had lost control on the approach to the braking zone and consequently braked later than intended.


Server replay time: 0h40m03s

Last lap and Bernie is trying hard to catch Rog. Rog is quite slow into Tarzan but Bernie should have avoided this crash. Mitigating factors are the fact that Rog is slower than customary and occupies the center line but as Rog was leading into the corner he had every right to be there.

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« on: March 17, 2013, 12:19:45 AM +0000 »

UKGPL Season 24 65 Novices Trophy
Race 5 Zandvoort

Welcome to the fifth round of the Novices Trophy for Season 24.

Over the North Sea to play in the sand dunes.

As always patience is ESSENTIAL. The first lap will be fully moderated within the red zone. The red zone will be the ENTIRE first lap. DON'T ALL DIVE INTO TARZEN FIRST TIME ROUND!!!

Please check the Season 24 pages for details regarding rules and the Novices Trophy pages in particular.

HANDICAPPING will be applied to any drivers in the top three who are within 20 points of the leader. Shouldn't actually make much difference here.

Geoff is limited to the BT7
Johnny P has the choice of BT7 or Cooper
Ross Hawkey is asked to limit himself to the BT7, Cooper or BRM


Race ListIGOR
ServerUKGPL_3
IP Addressping ukgpl3.dyndns.org
Race date19-03-2013
Qualification Time  ~20:45  UK time (minimum of 30 mins)
Race Timerace starts at 21:30 UK time
TrackZandvoort (Papy)
Variant65F1 the 2.02 Release of the 65mod should be used
Damage ModelINT
Race length27 laps
RED ZONE All of Lap 1
Passwordsee above
Replayavailable after the race here

Qualifying may start before 9pm, if so, Reserve drivers should leave the server when 35 minutes of qualifying remains and only rejoin when 30 minutes of qualifying is left. This is to ensure that Full Time drivers get priority in joining.

Please restrict chat to pit messages if necessary, and this includes the end of the race, until all running drivers have completed the necessary laps.

The Novice races are run under Int Long rules and all incidents in the red zone on Lap 1, at least, will be moderated. For this race, the red zone extends to the whole of Lap 1. There is no limit on the amount of resets but EACH Shift/R MUST be followed by a Stop n Go.

65 Patch: The 2.02 Release of the 65mod can and should be used. You need a working installation of the 65 mod to install the 2.02 Update. All the 65 Mod files can be found here

Password: see above

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page
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« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2013, 06:02:49 PM +0000 »

I am sorry I haven't got the moderation done for Aintree but as most of you know I have been unwell.

I'll catch up this week.
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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2013, 06:59:37 PM +0000 »

Hi Paul
Didn't know you were unwell and hope you are making a good recovery
Cheers
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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2013, 07:13:14 PM +0000 »

Same here, be well
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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2013, 07:15:52 PM +0000 »

'flu - real one, not the 'man' variety... pretty whacked.
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« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2013, 07:18:11 PM +0000 »

Any chance of a practice server please Paul??
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« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2013, 07:20:33 PM +0000 »

Yeah, it will take a bit of rest to recuperate fully.....much sleep, liquid intake up as well....not beer    Undecided
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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2013, 07:22:54 PM +0000 »

Thanks mate..... Wink
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« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2013, 09:47:12 PM +0000 »

Superb, taken out again  Roll Eyes

Another wasted night then.
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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2013, 09:55:27 PM +0000 »

The BT7 may be not too far away from the other cars in Hristo's hands......but at this level.....it sucks.
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« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2013, 09:58:32 PM +0000 »

Superb, taken out again  Roll Eyes

Another wasted night then.
I think there are 3 or 4 of us who could post the same thing....


NOTE TO ALL
Zandvoort is well known for its ability to wreck every ones races, it only takes the slightest mistake and you are a mile across the dunes, or worse still, upside down on fire on the racing line. TWICE i came round the sweepers 2/3 the way round to be confronted by a crashed car.. and there aint nowhere to go to avoid them there!
FFS you lot drive, to finish you b!!!!!!!!s, Zandy is not a place to push to the limit and yet you all do it!
I really am not amused!

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« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2013, 10:03:22 PM +0000 »

BT7 isnt that far off on many tracks.... witness my performance 2 seasons ago in it...I won at 3 very different tracks in a car that may not have been the conventional "car of choice"
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« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2013, 10:40:12 PM +0000 »

Superb, taken out again  Roll Eyes

Another wasted night then.

It is a pity Tony. You really must use the reset function. This is a difficult track for Novices - my first race I quit 'cos I was scared - literally.
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« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2013, 11:05:34 PM +0000 »

Firstly sorry to Smith and Tony. Smith i'm sorry i clipped your car after you reset on Lap 1. And to Tony for getting too close and causing your accident through Hondenvlak. I tried to stay tight and cautious while i was chasing but i couldn't predict where you were going to be. You went into a slide and came back and i was too close to react. My apologies Sad

Yes, i went sailing off into the scenery after i clipped Smith's car and was lost and disorientated when i cam to a halt. Punishing moments, for all of us, i'm only sorry that you were both involved.

As for the start, I've looked at the server replay and it's a clearer. I came in t1 slightly ahead of Giovanni but turned in thinking there was more room. Giovanni sort of warped into mine and that was my race screwed.

Came out last and things went from bad to worse. After clipping Smith's car my engine was down on power and i didn't realise until well over half the race had gone. So i reset and did a stop n go which dropped me back even further.

Looking to have a clean race next round.

Well done all other finishers and the podium.
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« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2013, 12:59:19 AM +0000 »

As far as I can see Andy, Nigel didn't reset Lap 1, it was a bit more warp that moved his car. You didn't have any time to react. The same would appear to be true of you and Gio at T1. You could have taken a wider line in the interests of self preservation because warp is most likely on Lap 1 when the cars are close together. You were VERY unlucky. It would help if you would report yours and Tony's collision.

As for my race, one spin, three minor errors lost me two places which were promptly handed back by Gio and Al disappearing with two to go. The spin was annoying as I went wide but refrained from steering on the grass but still found myself backwards...

Had fun chasing Billy until the call of the jungle became too much for Mr N at Taarzen, span and let Bernie past and made a couple of errors chasing him which dropped me back out of view and then Paul V kept me VERY honest. He span off and from there to the end (~10 laps) I was on my own and just needed to keep concentration. Which as I have 'flu (real 'flu - HN1 - not Man-flu) was pretty hard. Pleased with the overall race. I have never gone well at Zandy and I wasn't looking forward to it. Better than I hoped for. Encouraging.
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