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March 22, 2013, 09:39:10 PM +0000 - Kyalami (1961-67) - UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 3 +0.583
117.489mph
1 48:30.774
116.386mph
37 1:17.854
117.605mph
Dunlop  
Johnny.P
 Blue Moose Racing
Ferrari 312 (1969) F1 1969 5 +0.749
117.239mph
2 +0.501
116.366mph
37 1:17.287
118.468mph
Dunlop  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
McLaren M7 (DFV) F1 1969 4 +0.644
117.397mph
3 +48.448
114.480mph
37 1:18.661
116.399mph
Firestone  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
McLaren M7 (DFV) F1 1969 7 +3.002
113.952mph
4 +1L
112.281mph
36 1:19.662
114.936mph
Firestone  
philippe GIRARD
 Blue Moose Racing
McLaren M7 (DFV) F1 1969 6 +1.608
115.964mph
5 +7.305
112.002mph
36 1:18.698
116.344mph
Firestone  
JonnyO
 Team Coyote
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 1 1:17.348
118.374mph
6 +10L
116.418mph
27 1:17.326
118.408mph
Disco
Firestone  
Geoff65
 Clark-Hill Racing
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 2 +0.523
117.579mph
7 +25L
111.099mph
12 1:18.604
116.483mph
Disco
Dunlop  
BadBlood
 Blue Moose Racing
Lotus 49 (1969) F1 1969 10 8 +30L
84.817mph
7 1:27.227
104.968mph
Disco
Firestone  
Adam Cooper
 Team Coyote
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 8 +3.699
112.972mph
9 +34L
94.871mph
3 1:22.480
111.009mph
Disco
Dunlop  
UKGPL 3
 
McLaren M7 (DFV) F1 1969 9 10 DNS ---
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Firestone  

Moderator's Report

Not much to do in the Red Zone - which makes a change for the Extras...


Server replay time: 0h01m23s

Bernie gets very close to Phillipe but bails out and puts himself on the grass. Better than getting a penalty and allows Phillipe to continue unharmed. A mistake but elegantly handled.

March 22, 2013, 09:43:08 PM +0000 - Kyalami (1961-67) - UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Hristo Itchov
 
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 5 +0.732
121.502mph
1 46:43.620
120.860mph
37 1:14.504
122.919mph
Dunlop  
MagicArsouille
 
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 1 1:14.641
122.694mph
2 +40.183
119.152mph
37 1:15.049
122.027mph
Dunlop  
DLogan
 
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 7 +1.025
121.032mph
3 +1:02.799
118.212mph
37 1:15.305
121.612mph
Dunlop  
kinghiro
 Clark-Hill Racing
McLaren M7 (DFV) F1 1969 6 +0.912
121.213mph
4 +1:07.872
118.003mph
37 1:16.058
120.408mph
Firestone  
Flow
 
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 4 +0.557
121.785mph
5 +1:09.783
117.925mph
37 1:15.691
120.992mph
Dunlop  
AnGex
 Black Night Racing
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 12 +1.578
120.154mph
6 +1:14.073
117.749mph
37 1:15.927
120.616mph
Dunlop  
Artiglietti
 
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 2 +0.075
122.571mph
7 +1L
117.600mph
36 1:15.465
121.354mph
Dunlop  
NickyIckx
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 11 +1.547
120.202mph
8 +3.158
117.467mph
36 1:15.291
121.635mph
Dunlop  
Piero Mercaldo
 Squadra Padova Corse
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 3 +0.391
122.054mph
9 (+3) +21.901
116.688mph
36 1:15.616
121.112mph
Dunlop  
Marco Mercaldo
 Squadra Padova Corse
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 10 +1.490
120.292mph
10 +22.125
116.679mph
36 1:16.381
119.899mph
Dunlop  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 14 +2.868
118.154mph
11 +28.387
116.421mph
36 1:16.956
119.003mph
Dunlop  
Ronniepeterson
 Clark-Hill Racing
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 9 +1.400
120.435mph
12 +49.593
115.556mph
36 1:16.617
119.529mph
Dunlop  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 8 +1.234
120.698mph
13 +6L
117.967mph
31 1:16.621
119.523mph
Disco
Dunlop  
robert john
 
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 15 +3.625
117.011mph
14 +39.294
116.072mph
31 1:16.917
119.063mph
Disco
Firestone  
Raoni Frizzo
 Team Coyote
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 13 +2.285
119.049mph
15 +29L
112.755mph
8 1:17.514
118.146mph
Disco
Dunlop  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
Lotus 49 (1969) F1 1969 16 16 DNS ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Only one incident in the Red Zone although Ronnie spins but he did that all by himself with the help of some grass.

Piero did later cross the pit wall that showed he did not have the pit wall in place but as I forgot to tell drivers to install it I think it would be unfair to exclude him. My mistake. I shall not forget again.

I did however look at his replay and he obtained no real advantage from the lack of pit wall. His stop was not a great example though and he should have given Dean lots more room and a better indication.


Server replay time: 0h01m01s

Piero tries to get up the inside of Art but has left it too late and Art closes the door. Piero should have backed off here. Drivers MUST be patient at T1, Lap 1.

Piero is good enough to make the pass but it could only happen if Art was being generous. Art had the lead and could take the line. Pieros line was tight and he was always going to slide wide. He should have backed off.

  • Piero Mercaldopenalty — Simple Rear End Shunt + 1 place for lap 1 — 2 places lost (plus 1 for penalty points)

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F1 1969
1:14.504
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Hristo Itchov
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« on: March 22, 2013, 10:52:31 AM +0000 »

UKGPL Season 24 Extra Trophy (69X)
Race 5 Kyalami

Welcome to the fifth round of the Extra Trophy for 69 Extra chassis. Kyalami. Classic track, just right for the grippy 69X ers. Last race before the Easter break.

One of the original Papy tracks and therefore fairly well known, but not without difficulty. Usually sees some close racing.

The original, sweeping circuit was in use from 1961 until political sanctions eliminated the Grand Prix after the 1985 race. A very quick circuit, it yielded some memorable races. Gilles Villeneuve outfoxed team mate and home driver Jody Scheckter in a wet/dry race in 1979, and Alain Prost raced from the back to win in 1982. By the time the circuit held its last Grand Prix in its original incarnation cars were lapping the track in 1m 02s – 20 seconds faster than in 1967, a lap time in the 1m 02s might prove a little much... even for the Lights!

The first lap will be fully moderated within the red zone. The red zone will extend to the whole of the first lap.

Please check the Season 24 pages for details regarding rules and the Extra Trophy pages in particular.

It is very important that drivers are FULLY familiar with the rules relating to Shift-R. ONLY ONE IS ALLOWED and a Shift-R MUST be followed by a Stop-and-Go or the driver will be excluded.

If two servers are required they will be as below but if only one grid is required, we will race on T7.

Race listiGOR
LIGHT ServerUKGPL_T7_2
IP address62.149.202.168
HEAVY ServerUKGPL3
IP addressping ukgpl3.dyndns.org
Date08-03-2013
Race timeRace starts at 21:30 UK time
Qualifying timeBetween 30 and 60 minutes, starting no later than 21:00 UK time
TrackKyalami (Papy)
Mod69X
Damage modelINT
Race length37 laps
ReplayAvailable here


Reserve drivers please note; you must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 10 minutes, to allow full timers to join. FULL TIME DRIVERS GET PRIORITY.

Heavy and Light drivers will drive on separate servers. Please ensure that you know which class you are and that you join the right server

LIGHTS on UKGPL_T7_2; HEAVY on UKGPL3

The Light and Heavy Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page

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« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2013, 11:35:40 AM +0000 »

Pit wall?
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« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2013, 12:03:33 PM +0000 »

Yes, Johnny....Pit wall must be in place or risk disqualification.
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« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2013, 12:44:02 PM +0000 »

Pit wall?

If you have installed a GFX update that removes the pitwall here is how to get it back for the race;
1. Rename or remove kyalami.trk and kyalami.3do files from your kyalami folder.
That will give you back a wall you can crash your car into , if you want the old papy Armco GFX back for the wall do this;
2. Rename or remove Armco_s.mip
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« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2013, 07:24:03 PM +0000 »

Thanks John

Peace 

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« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2013, 10:08:53 PM +0000 »

Thanks JR. Forgot to point that all out.

PLEASE GUYS, TURN UP A BIT EARLIER. There were only eleven of us at 21:00 which makes it pointless running two servers. Then at 21:10 we had 23 drivers.

Sorry I had to crash T7, hope it went off ok later on but I do need you guys to at least be in iGOR by 21:00 so that I know if one or two servers are required. Thanks.

As for the race, awful. Lotus was undriveable. Snap oversteer which I could counter by running at 10 seconds off the pace... not enjoyable at all. Cannot get the hang of these 69X chassis.
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« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2013, 10:22:10 PM +0000 »

Philippe, really, rejoining at near 90degs to the track in Crowthorne? We are not amused....And Queen Victoria didn't actually say that, What she did say was "What a *iss poor joke that was!" but the scribe thought it best to ....alter the wording.

Anyway, weird chassis these......no matter how much rear wing i applied it didn't stop it getting too tailhappy if I delayed power application ie; late corner entry....all it did was slow it down on the straights. Not a fan of Kyalami for these things at the best of times....have to make too many compromises to make the package work.
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« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2013, 10:34:13 PM +0000 »

my apologies, geoff, I tried to get back on track after my overrun.
I had to let you pass before returning.
I'm sorry I ruined your race and your evening...

I don't like Kyalami, it's not easy tu give a setup.

Bravo Dave !
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« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2013, 10:58:05 PM +0000 »

Very fun race with me loosing a couple spots in the beginning due to too much mirrorlooking and had some wheels on grass. I managed to bite myself to a 6 th until some 4 laps to go. Dean and axel have a clinch and axel spins. I run into axel right after he regained control and push him around again. Really sorry Axel I guess I could avoided that but was hotheaded with some chasers just behind me.
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« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2013, 11:15:42 PM +0000 »

Brilliant race- had a great battle with Rainier but could not quite get past. My ferrari was fun once the tyres were hot but under heavy braking for turn one the back end was always trying to beat the front end into the corner. Shame for Jonnyo he was away but disconnected. Great race Rainier- well done on your win.
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« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2013, 11:42:05 PM +0000 »

  Great battle of Rainier and Johnny.P!!

  My Lotus49b had engine trouble, and after the pitstop motor broke again!! cursing

  Rainier Bravo!!!
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« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2013, 02:58:40 AM +0000 »

Well, my race started of just fine: avoided the T1 (seemingly) inevitable, settled into a good rhythm following Flow, building a gap over Cookie behind, and prepared to watch leaders disappear into the distance. Then engine made the unhappy noise coming out of the hairpin on lap 4 Sad. Bah. Find a safe place to pull over, wait for Cookie to pass, shift-r, get going again, head for the pits, enter just a smidgen too hot, and give the armco at the entry a good clout which bounces me over into armco on the other side to give it a good clout, too. Double bah, but at least I still have four wheels attached so let's see what we can recover from my now 12th place.

Stationary Ronnie is easy to get by. Next in sight is Piero who seems to be going slowly, but then accelerates well onto the straight so maybe he just had a bobble. Nope. Come through the bend on the straight and here's Piero BRAKING HEAVILY AND 40 MPH OFF THE PACE WHILE STILL ON THE RACING LINE?!!? He's already missed the pit entry so what the hey is going on and oh, there he goes, right through the armco and into the pits. Hmmm.

Got past Fulvio and Marco without much issue, bit of a fight from Tom but not much, Andreas more of a struggle, looked like he was struggling too, poked my nose in a few times but had to back off to avoid contact but then get clear and start chasing down Cookie for the placing that I had before the engine went south. Unable to make a move on the straight (due to damage from my clumsy pit stop earlier, probably) but gaining ground hand over fist in the twisty bits. Get right up on him, he's defending cleanly, taking nice consistent lines. Bit over ambitious in T1 sees minor contact, only I suffer (a few seconds loss, and my fault, so all's good), gain it back in two laps. Line up for another pass attempt into the hairpin (where he'd been in 3rd gear through and out of previous corner, moving to the right every time, for the seven laps prior), and he's really slow and stays left (watching replay, he'd downshifted and then stayed in 2nd  Sad ). Contact that I could not avoid sees him off to the right.

Passing a very slow Florian with less than 2 laps to go got me an unexpected podium, which I'm happy with in this crowd.

So into the midseason break in 2nd place in standings (3rd corrected). Have good one, cyas next round.
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« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2013, 12:09:36 PM +0000 »

PLEASE GUYS, TURN UP A BIT EARLIER. There were only eleven of us at 21:00 which makes it pointless running two servers. Then at 21:10 we had 23 drivers.

Sorry I had to crash T7, hope it went off ok later on but I do need you guys to at least be in iGOR by 21:00 so that I know if one or two servers are required. Thanks.

So, Paul, in the future should I turn up in time, or should I start turning up late myself? Result is the same to me, second time in a row on provisional pole, second time in a row the server is crashed. I was on the final straight of a perfectly nailed lap, who knows I might have even made it through turn one from pole, this time.

Some leagues have a system that requires people to confirm their entry the day before the race, when they need multiple servers. They are still running fine, plenty of attendance, people know the rules and abide to it.

I checked the import, 5 people wouldnt have been able to race yesterday night. Personally I think if that had been the case, they wouldnt have left the league in disgust, maybe followed by half of the regulars in sympathy, thus taking the entire UKGPL to an untimely end, just under your time as chief mod. More likey is that they would have turned up earlier next time round. Something they will keep failing to do if all they get is a reminder on the forum, which most people dont even read.  

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« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2013, 12:37:58 PM +0000 »

No doubt Artiglietti . I'm sure you will do a much better job when you take over as chief moderator   Kiss
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« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2013, 02:02:03 PM +0000 »

No doubt Artiglietti . I'm sure you will do a much better job when you take over as chief moderator   Kiss

Oh ok, thats joining in with the late comers then, it was just good to know.
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