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  • P8L7 Zandvoort: May 09, 2013
May 09, 2013, 08:45:54 PM +0100 - Zandvoort (GP) - UKPnG Season 8 Limited Car Challenge
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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johnw
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Shelby Cobra 289 (#63014) P&G Group 3 O2L 1 1:56.649
82.042mph
1 39:43.746
80.295mph
20 1:57.948
81.139mph
Goodyear  
Clive Loynes
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Shelby Cobra 289 (#63016) P&G Group 3 O2L 3 +1.791
80.802mph
2 +24.014
79.494mph
20 1:58.621
80.678mph
Goodyear  
Mogget
 
Shelby Cobra 289 (#63012) P&G Group 3 O2L 2 +1.764
80.820mph
3 +24.377
79.482mph
20 1:57.818
81.228mph
Goodyear  
frex
 Kerb Crawlers
Shelby Cobra 289 (#63012) P&G Group 3 O2L 5 +2.362
80.414mph
4 +48.894
78.681mph
20 1:59.364
80.176mph
Goodyear  
Alessandro Tancioni
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Shelby Cobra 289 (#63016) P&G Group 3 O2L 9 +3.092
79.924mph
5 +49.422
78.664mph
20 1:59.873
79.836mph
Goodyear  
goldtop
 Kerb Crawlers
Shelby Cobra 289 (#63012) P&G Group 3 O2L 6 +2.663
80.211mph
6 +53.566
78.530mph
20 2:00.522
79.406mph
Goodyear  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Shelby Cobra 289 (#63014) P&G Group 3 O2L 7 +2.896
80.055mph
7 +1:01.338
78.281mph
20 2:00.045
79.721mph
Goodyear  
Animal Ed
 Team Oldie Racing
Shelby Cobra 289 (#63015) P&G Group 3 O2L 8 +3.018
79.973mph
8 +1:01.829
78.265mph
20 2:00.501
79.420mph
Goodyear  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Shelby Cobra 289 (#63015) P&G Group 3 O2L 4 +2.128
80.572mph
9 +1:03.286
78.218mph
20 1:59.472
80.104mph
Goodyear  
Jarda Zacek
 
Shelby Cobra 289 (#63012) P&G Group 3 O2L 12 +4.924
78.719mph
10 +1:26.339
77.488mph
20 2:01.277
78.911mph
Goodyear  
Walter Conn
 
Shelby Cobra 289 (#63014) P&G Group 3 O2L 15 +5.598
78.285mph
11 +1:30.990
77.343mph
20 2:01.428
78.813mph
Goodyear  
robiker
 
Shelby Cobra 289 (#63014) P&G Group 3 O2L 13 +4.991
78.676mph
12 +1:35.337
77.207mph
20 2:02.242
78.289mph
Goodyear  
Alex vV
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Shelby Cobra 289 (#63014) P&G Group 3 O2L 14 +5.541
78.322mph
13 +1:46.009
76.876mph
20 2:01.878
78.522mph
Goodyear  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Shelby Cobra 289 (#63012) P&G Group 3 O2L 11 +4.327
79.108mph
14 +1L
76.105mph
19 2:01.541
78.740mph
Goodyear  
massimogt italy
 
Shelby Cobra 289 (#63015) P&G Group 3 O2L 17 +6.824
77.508mph
15 +8L 12 2:03.226
77.663mph
DQ
Goodyear  
Legzy
 Team Oldie Racing
Shelby Cobra 289 (#63015) P&G Group 3 O2L 10 +3.280
79.798mph
16 +16L 4 2:00.215
79.609mph
unknown
Goodyear  
quicksilver384 (John)
 Supersonic Racing
Shelby Cobra 289 (#63014) P&G Group 3 O2L 16 +6.411
77.768mph
17 4 2:07.473
75.076mph
unknown
Goodyear  
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
Shelby Cobra 289 (#63016) P&G Group 3 O2L 18 +11.385
74.747mph
18 +17L 3 2:06.068
75.913mph
unknown
Goodyear  
SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GTR2
P&G Group 3 O2L
1:56.649
82.042mph
johnw
Qualifying
Shelby Cobra 289May 09, 2013, 08:45:54 PM +0100
P8LCC
GTR2
P&G Group 3 O2L
1:57.818
81.228mph
Mogget
Race
Shelby Cobra 289May 09, 2013, 08:45:54 PM +0100
P8LCC
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« Reply #45 on: May 09, 2013, 11:01:38 PM +0100 »

Good race albeit hard hot and tough, wrestling these around for 40mins!

Qualied 6th or 7th and was pleased to set a 1:59 time just pipped at the end by GT.

Spent entire race in 6th place chasing alessandro hard for 19 of the 20 laps. On lap 19 frex in 4th had some kind of incident ahead and AT and me caught him into the twisty section. Alessandro braked wider than normal forcing me even wider to avoid hitting him. I got one wheel on the grass and It just span me round. Gutted as it allowed GT who was 5 secs behind to scamper past and nick my hard earned 6th place  :'(
Still, could have been worse, finished 7th.

Congrats to the fast podium, great pace.  Smiley
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« Reply #46 on: May 09, 2013, 11:05:10 PM +0100 »

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battle with Ed until he spun on the penultimate lap...

I spun because I was so annoyed when you pull "Schumacher" on me ... but that`s racing. Not easy to swallow that you need to lift off on home straight and start all over again from the other side ...

Anyway, not my car, not my race track so 8th place is OK for me.


Not half as annoyed as when you punted me off track at the start Ed....losing me several places....and then later almost had me off into T1 when you hit me as I was battling with Legzy, which lost me more time.

I changed my line once, half way down the straight and kept my line into T1 and at no time did you have any of your car overlapping mine. I hardly call that a Schumacher move, but on this occasion I'll take it as a compliment  Wink
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« Reply #47 on: May 10, 2013, 12:21:46 AM +0100 »

No need  to be offended (if you are) because I said that`s racing and I accept that.

... for other incidents: you were so slow off the line, I would pass you anyway but right before my move to the right, I saw in my mirrors someone with even better start then mine so to go in his way was not an option and my lift off was not enough  ... my mistake - apologies  oops

... than your passing maneuver on me when "I run wide" to let my team mate go but not you with him ... didn`t count on yours elbows and almost finished in fence ( you choose much wider line despite having me on the left side almost giving me no choice to made that corner at all) ... that touch in T1 was payback (yes, I was also annoyed with that)

.. considering "Schumacher" or should I call that "Hamilton" (remeber the race when he pull that move on Alonso in Malaysia few years ago and And Alonso was penalised despite having no way to escape, but rules are rules no matter how stupid they are sometimes)  , yes , you changed line once but after my move and, if you didn`t notice, we had a touch so, yes, i had part of my car overlapping ... and that touch was main reason for my reaction besides fact that I hate defensive driving because it`s destruction of racing IMO.

You say that you are satisfied with your 6th place and I said that i`m ok with 8th so, shall we move on ... (what? No peace smiley or shake hands!!!!)
Well, peace my friend.
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« Reply #48 on: May 10, 2013, 09:49:57 AM +0100 »

My usual sluggish start dropped me from P2 to P4, and I spent the next couple of laps looking for an opportunity to pass Geoffers. Finally made it, and headed off in pursuit of Clive. Caught him after a few more laps, and spent the rest of the race clamped to his tail. To be honest, we were closely matched for pace, and I was actually happy to be the one behind! It must have been hard work keeping me at bay for so many laps. I managed to get alongside him on the final lap at one point, but he had the inside line to the next corner, and he made a good job of "closing the door" as I tried to get past him around the outside Wink I could see that he was struggling with his tyres at the end, but it was still hard work trying to find an opportunity to overtake, and I really didn't want to spoil such a fantastic duel by hitting him off the track at the very end of the race.

Great stuff, Clive thumbup1

Well done to John for the solid win.
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« Reply #49 on: May 10, 2013, 09:51:07 AM +0100 »

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Good race everyone - Especially Alex and Robert Beck. It looked like the three of us had about the same pace.

Yes, it was a good solid home race. First part dodging the spinning/sliding cars. No harm done Walter in T2. I ran into Robert and waited at T1 in one point in the race.
Then a F1-esque battle for tenths of seconds ensued. Really cool. Don't forget Massimo with his Italian flair on the track  Grin .
Even managed to hold the admin behind  Wink and didn't lose a lap.

From my point of view clear racing so thanks to my competitors.

Congrats to John.. I'm beginning to think that he is in fact that Hututu guy from Finland...

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« Reply #50 on: May 10, 2013, 10:10:14 AM +0100 »

Congrats to John.. I'm beginning to think that he is in fact that Hututu guy from Finland...

Hehe. I try my best, but there's far faster guys than me out there. Speaking of which, where have all the Italians gone recently?
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« Reply #51 on: May 10, 2013, 10:33:35 AM +0100 »

Good 1st half of the race for me, was having another good scrap with Jarda, then as the tyres went off so did my car.
Ended the race trying to catch Alex but couldn't  :'(  Good run Alex.

Guys, a point:

If you have an issue with someone's driving then this is not the place for deep discussion.
Either put in an incident report, or send the other guy a PM and make your point that way
or just make light of it in this forum.  angel  Multo Grassy ass.

The Italians (other than Allesandro and Massimo) have a Thursday night league maybe
every other Thursday, and Matteo is without wheel still I think....  Sad
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« Reply #52 on: May 10, 2013, 10:49:04 AM +0100 »

The Italians (other than Allesandro and Massimo) have a Thursday night league maybe
every other Thursday, and Matteo is without wheel still I think....  Sad

Ah, of course.

Sorry, didn't mean to ignore out current Italians! thumbup1
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« Reply #53 on: May 10, 2013, 04:39:11 PM +0100 »




I ran into Robert and waited at T1 in one point in the race.




Couldn't have been me. Didn't have contact with any other cars.
After Walter passed me, I couldn't quite match his pace. Well done Walter.
I'm adding Zandvoort to my list of least favorite tracks.
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« Reply #54 on: May 10, 2013, 05:16:41 PM +0100 »

I had a great race.   Grin

In qually, I never seem to be able to repeat on-line the sort of laps that I have managed in training sessions.  With a JW Time Trial lap of 1:56.9 to chase, I had managed a 1:57.3 but sadly had to give best to Mogget for second on the grid.

Thankfully Mogget’s starts resemble those of a ruptured duck,  scooter so I was able to nip past him off the line and had the option to get brave around the outside of John too.  I decided to pass on that one.   Roll Eyes

My start made my race and thankfully Geoffers slotted in behind me, giving Mogget someone else to bother before he got to me.

There were some places in the lap where I was trying really hard not to cook the tyres, even when Mogget was closing in on me, as I was hopeful that I would be rewarded over the last few laps.

After about five laps I had Mogget for company and as he has said that lasted for most of the race.  He had a spin at the hairpin which I thought might indicate that his tyres were shot but no such luck, he was soon back on my case.

I was safe so long as I achieved a clean exit from the corners but when the tyres gave in, I was having to lift at some points to stop myself from rotating.  Thankfully I managed a clean exit from the last corner on most laps and hit most of my braking points.

Congratulations to John on a fine drive and likewise to Mogget for a clean battle.  Don’t think we actually touched once.

A thoroughly soggy result!   Grin

Also many thanks to Alex for the report.

thanks to Matt for coming up with a race where I didn't have to decide which car I was going to use and also for making it one of my favourites.  thumbup2
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« Reply #55 on: May 10, 2013, 05:37:50 PM +0100 »

Could someone point me towards the replay. My computer did not save it....

Thanks, Walt
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« Reply #56 on: May 10, 2013, 05:56:56 PM +0100 »

Could someone point me towards the replay. My computer did not save it....

Thanks, Walt

Try the button that says "REPLAYS" on the blue bar near the top of the page.
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« Reply #57 on: May 10, 2013, 06:22:53 PM +0100 »

No need  to be offended (if you are) because I said that`s racing and I accept that.

... for other incidents: you were so slow off the line, I would pass you anyway but right before my move to the right, I saw in my mirrors someone with even better start then mine so to go in his way was not an option and my lift off was not enough  ... my mistake - apologies  oops

... than your passing maneuver on me when "I run wide" to let my team mate go but not you with him ... didn`t count on yours elbows and almost finished in fence ( you choose much wider line despite having me on the left side almost giving me no choice to made that corner at all) ... that touch in T1 was payback (yes, I was also annoyed with that)

.. considering "Schumacher" or should I call that "Hamilton" (remeber the race when he pull that move on Alonso in Malaysia few years ago and And Alonso was penalised despite having no way to escape, but rules are rules no matter how stupid they are sometimes)  , yes , you changed line once but after my move and, if you didn`t notice, we had a touch so, yes, i had part of my car overlapping ... and that touch was main reason for my reaction besides fact that I hate defensive driving because it`s destruction of racing IMO.

You say that you are satisfied with your 6th place and I said that i`m ok with 8th so, shall we move on ... (what? No peace smiley or shake hands!!!!)
Well, peace my friend.

Fair enough Ed, I'm sure our usual good behaviour and manners will return for the next race  yes And yes I agree, we could certainly use a smiley handshake here  Wink
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« Reply #58 on: May 10, 2013, 08:12:40 PM +0100 »

very good race. in last days i tried hard to unterstand the race.
in qualy, my best of 1.59.  allow me to get the 5 position.
in race, with a super start, i managed 2 position. but frex was very very fast and goltop was very close to me.
happy to finish the race in fifth position.
grats to john woo, a real rocket! and also to all the other drivers.

cu next thursday ( i have finished the rotw challenge, and now i can be with u in every race)!  Cheesy

cu

i confirm that manteos is still without whell!
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« Reply #59 on: May 10, 2013, 08:27:41 PM +0100 »

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I confirm that manteos is still without wheel!

It looks like we found a good hiding place for it Grin
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