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April 16, 2013, 10:38:54 PM +0100 - Rouen (1955-70) - UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Professionals Trophy (65)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Hristo Itchov
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 1 2:02.905
119.081mph
1 49:57.070
117.200mph
24 2:02.684
119.296mph
Dunlop  
Clutch4
 Mountside Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 2 +0.554
118.547mph
2 +9.655
116.824mph
24 2:03.710
118.306mph
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 3 +0.666
118.440mph
3 +12.467
116.714mph
24 2:04.263
117.780mph
Dunlop  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 6 +1.849
117.316mph
4 +39.396
115.679mph
24 2:05.004
117.082mph
Goodyear  
DLogan
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 10 +2.566
116.646mph
5 +1:07.572
114.616mph
24 2:05.027
117.060mph
Dunlop  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 12 +3.516
115.769mph
6 +1:21.591
114.094mph
24 2:05.798
116.343mph
Goodyear  
JonnyO
 Team Coyote
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 11 +3.506
115.779mph
7 +1:33.290
113.662mph
24 2:05.592
116.534mph
Dunlop  
AnGex
 Black Night Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 5 +1.642
117.511mph
8 +1:42.560
113.322mph
24 2:07.091
115.159mph
Dunlop  
Ronniepeterson
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 7 +1.895
117.273mph
9 +2L
114.507mph
22 2:04.416
117.635mph
Goodyear  
natan5
 NVRacing
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 9 +2.225
116.964mph
10 +10.172
114.094mph
22 2:05.871
116.275mph
engine
Dunlop  
s2173
 Team7
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 8 +1.971
117.202mph
11 +14L
113.614mph
10 2:06.420
115.770mph
Disco
Dunlop  
MagicArsouille
 
Honda RA272 F1 1965 4 +0.954
118.164mph
12 +19L
114.814mph
5 2:04.539
117.519mph
Disco
Goodyear  
UKGPL 8
 
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 13 13 DNS ---
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Dunlop  

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« on: April 14, 2013, 04:20:58 PM +0100 »

UKGPL Season 24 - Pro Trophy - Race 6 Rouen  

Rouen, in northern France on the River Seine, is the capital of the Haute-Normandie (Upper Normandy) region and the historic capital city of Normandy. The track is well known and we use the original Papy version without pitwall.

The Pro Drivers will have a free car choice. Drivers will have to remain in that chassis for the rest of the season, they will only be allowed to swap chassis in exceptional circumstances and only with the approval of the moderator.

There will be full moderation of lap one Red Zone and reported incidents for the rest of the race.
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The specific division rules for the Pro Trophy have changed as the INT division has been suspended.
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For this race Florian Gebhard will be handicapped with a Honda or Cooper.


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Race date = 16-04-2013
Qualification Time   = ~20:45  UK time -> 30-45 min
Race Time = race starts at 21:30 UK time
Track = Rouen
Variant = 65F1 the 2.02 Release of the 65mod should be used
Damage Model = PRO
Race length = ~50 min -> 24 laps
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« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2013, 04:36:13 PM +0100 »

For this race Florian Gebhard will be handicapped with a Honda or Cooper.

The Honda is a handicap around here?

1 2:02.040 Timo Kujala F1 Lotus (65) Practice 2004-10-14 12:55:30 FF-Wheel Left Foot Unknown add
2 2:02.182 Elias Hirvonen F1 Lotus (65) Training 2004-06-14 20:47:03 Wheel Left Foot Paddles add
3 2:02.385 Damiano Bonetti F1 Honda (65) Training 2005-10-05 09:45:27 FF-Wheel Left Foot Unknown add
4 2:02.403 John Pickett F1 Lotus (65) Training 2004-05-04 04:26:47 Wheel Left Foot Unknown add
5 2:02.408 Greg Stewart F1 Ferrari (65) Training 2004-05-11 01:30:33 FF-Wheel Left Foot Paddles add
6 2:02.466 Blood F1 BRM (65) Training 2004-05-18 18:12:54 Wheel Left Foot Paddles add
7 2:02.542 Maik Hennel F1 BRM (65) Practice 2006-02-21 16:26:39 FF-Wheel Left Foot Paddles add
8 2:02.563 Phil Flack F1 Honda (65) Practice 2005-04-08 16:21:24 Wheel Left Foot Paddles add
9 2:02.593 Steve Cloyd (SteveC43) F1 Honda (65) Training 2005-02-06 21:18:44 FF-Wheel Left Foot Stick add
10 2:02.683 JulienM F1 Lotus (65) Practice 2009-11-28 10:15:24 FF-Wheel Left Foot Paddles add
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« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2013, 10:20:47 PM +0100 »

Remember we had it in the Ints as a handicap car!

It is not slow, but more difficult to drive.
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« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2013, 10:40:49 PM +0100 »

what about the BT7 ?
it is quicker than the Cooper but slower than Honda.
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« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2013, 11:40:01 PM +0100 »

You have to be kidding, the Honda is some 2 seconds a lap quicker than the BT7 and Cooper here, difficult to drive or not...  Huh

And no, the BT7 is the slowest of them all, the Cooper is definitely quicker by a few tenths.
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« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2013, 06:23:28 PM +0100 »

Remember we had it in the Ints as a handicap car!

It is not slow, but more difficult to drive.

I think it proved that it was too fast in the hands of the faster drivers in that inters season. This is not like the F2 series where the slow cars are extremely slow. For me the BT7 is the handiacp car for this track like the Cooper would be at tracks like Spa. In my opinion the Honda is simply not a handicap for the series leader. No problem with your decision Axel just thought I would voice my thoughts.
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« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2013, 07:15:21 PM +0100 »

The Honda is faster than the BT11 at some tracks... You say it was a handicap car last season, but I raised the point multiple times back then that it's wrong to consider it slower than the BT11. I guess nobody listened and would rather insist on illusions.
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« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2013, 11:52:23 AM +0100 »

I compare the  Honda with the Lotus!
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« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2013, 12:20:52 PM +0100 »

I compare the  Honda with the Lotus!

What does that mean?
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« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2013, 12:29:54 PM +0100 »

He means the Lotus is faster?  For a long time, we kept the same handicap system for these.  There was some debate over the placing of a couple of cars.  It was thought by some the Honda was faster than 5th place, and perhaps the BRM should be equal 1st.
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« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2013, 12:58:43 PM +0100 »

I shall turn up with my BT11 and try to drive as fast as i can and see where i end up.

I couldn't give a toss what anyone else is driving.  Wink

If the Honda is quick so be it - get out there and beat it.  Wink
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« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2013, 01:05:51 PM +0100 »

What is the idea of handicapping a fast driver?

Make it impossible to win?
Or make it more difficult?
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« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2013, 01:12:20 PM +0100 »

What is the idea of handicapping a fast driver?

Make it impossible to win?
Or make it more difficult?

More difficult, but that's the point. I (and obviously others) just don't agree with the grouping of the 65 cars in terms of raw pace, though of course it depends on the track as well. Specifically at Rouen, the Honda is definitely on par with BT11, due to the long straights and fast corners.
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« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2013, 01:20:36 PM +0100 »

Florian was driving a Lotus until now!

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« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2013, 03:52:36 PM +0100 »

Florian was driving a Lotus until now!

Well the Honda will definitely be different and certainly harder! He might take the Cooper  Roll Eyes
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