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April 16, 2013, 10:38:54 PM +0100 - Rouen (1955-70) - UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Professionals Trophy (65)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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Ballast
Hristo Itchov
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 1 2:02.905
119.081mph
1 49:57.070
117.200mph
24 2:02.684
119.296mph
Dunlop  
Clutch4
 Mountside Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 2 +0.554
118.547mph
2 +9.655
116.824mph
24 2:03.710
118.306mph
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 3 +0.666
118.440mph
3 +12.467
116.714mph
24 2:04.263
117.780mph
Dunlop  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 6 +1.849
117.316mph
4 +39.396
115.679mph
24 2:05.004
117.082mph
Goodyear  
DLogan
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 10 +2.566
116.646mph
5 +1:07.572
114.616mph
24 2:05.027
117.060mph
Dunlop  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 12 +3.516
115.769mph
6 +1:21.591
114.094mph
24 2:05.798
116.343mph
Goodyear  
JonnyO
 Team Coyote
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 11 +3.506
115.779mph
7 +1:33.290
113.662mph
24 2:05.592
116.534mph
Dunlop  
AnGex
 Black Night Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 5 +1.642
117.511mph
8 +1:42.560
113.322mph
24 2:07.091
115.159mph
Dunlop  
Ronniepeterson
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 7 +1.895
117.273mph
9 +2L
114.507mph
22 2:04.416
117.635mph
Goodyear  
natan5
 NVRacing
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 9 +2.225
116.964mph
10 +10.172
114.094mph
22 2:05.871
116.275mph
engine
Dunlop  
s2173
 Team7
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 8 +1.971
117.202mph
11 +14L
113.614mph
10 2:06.420
115.770mph
Disco
Dunlop  
MagicArsouille
 
Honda RA272 F1 1965 4 +0.954
118.164mph
12 +19L
114.814mph
5 2:04.539
117.519mph
Disco
Goodyear  
UKGPL 8
 
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 13 13 DNS ---
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Dunlop  

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« Reply #45 on: April 19, 2013, 08:43:51 PM +0100 »

I meant by that, applying a token system with an added restriction for front runners, which you have already responded to further up the page.  I'm suggesting a seamless homogenous conglomeration - and "I'm wearin' me dictionary out 'ere!" Cheesy

i know when you homogenize milk you lose the cream off the top ...

what you are talking about is a token based system plus added handicapping for faster drivers , if you are going to do that why not just handicap the drivers and be done with it ?

 
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« Reply #46 on: April 19, 2013, 09:07:42 PM +0100 »

Also explained that last question on the previous page, John.  As-to the question of, "Do we handicap?"  I think it helps keep more drivers interested - and adds motivation for the afflicted few.  It's only a big problem when it's not done well.  As we've about 50 other voices here, I'll now attempt to leave the stage gracefully. Cool
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« Reply #47 on: April 19, 2013, 11:35:57 PM +0100 »

..."I'm wearin' me dictionary out 'ere!" Cheesy

That all? You getting chilly, yet?  Wink
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« Reply #48 on: April 19, 2013, 11:40:39 PM +0100 »

I meant by that, applying a token system with an added restriction for front runners, which you have already responded to further up the page.  I'm suggesting a seamless homogenous conglomeration - and "I'm wearin' me dictionary out 'ere!" Cheesy

i know when you homogenize milk you lose the cream off the top ...

what you are talking about is a token based system plus added handicapping for faster drivers , if you are going to do that why not just handicap the drivers and be done with it ?

Yes, it is strange, (or intersting ) how the handicap idea allways seems to find a way back some how.

Token is fine, or should I say, a very good system to get both strategy and different cars on the grid into the mix.

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« Reply #49 on: April 21, 2013, 12:29:19 PM +0100 »

Not forgetting that just like the cream , scum floats on top too , but sadly not in the case of GPL .

From my personal point of view having handicaps or not wouldn't make any differnce at all ,If its such a big thing for some , why dont we run a none handicap free for all div.

I think most of this stuff cropped up when we lost the Int's division which seemed to work reasonably well for most of us .

There's always going to be mumblings when faster drivers join a slower div ( D Logan for e.g.  ) so some form of handicapping in the lower divs would make sense from that point of view of keeping skill levels within the lower divisions sensible

But at the top level Pro's should be just that with no handicap to limit driving performance , let the fastest driver win , not the fastest driver with least handicap, and if you dont like the heat stay away from the kitchen  .

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« Reply #50 on: April 26, 2013, 12:05:44 PM +0100 »

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« Reply #51 on: April 26, 2013, 01:32:10 PM +0100 »

Thanks for your "Easy-work", Axel.
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