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April 21, 2013, 10:40:59 PM +0100 - Kyalami (1961-67) - UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Privateers Trophy (67)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
DLogan
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 4 +1.185
112.350mph
1 46:20.579
111.974mph
34 1:20.682
113.500mph
Goodyear  
s2173
 Team7
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 1 1:20.323
114.008mph
2 +38.039
110.463mph
34 1:20.426
113.862mph
Goodyear  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 2 +0.361
113.498mph
3 +47.511
110.093mph
34 1:20.988
113.072mph
Firestone  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 5 +1.725
111.611mph
4 +58.819
109.655mph
34 1:22.429
111.095mph
Goodyear  
Flow
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 3 +0.504
113.297mph
5 +1:02.983
109.494mph
34 1:20.846
113.270mph
Firestone  
Michael Turner
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 6 +2.242
110.912mph
6 +1:14.624
109.048mph
34 1:22.457
111.057mph
Firestone  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 9 +2.472
110.604mph
7 +1:45.381
107.885mph
34 1:21.359
112.556mph
Goodyear  
AnGex
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 7 +2.251
110.900mph
8 +1L
108.458mph
33 1:22.980
110.357mph
Firestone  
philippe GIRARD
 Blue Moose Racing
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 13 +3.026
109.869mph
9 +16.503
107.819mph
33 1:23.521
109.642mph
Firestone  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 11 +2.726
110.266mph
10 +2L
105.219mph
32 1:23.099
110.199mph
Goodyear  
tintin
 Clark-Hill Racing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 16 +3.551
109.181mph
11 +10L
106.274mph
24 1:23.335
109.887mph
Disco
Firestone  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 10 +2.597
110.437mph
12 +11L
108.017mph
23 1:22.343
111.211mph
Disco
Firestone  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 8 +2.455
110.627mph
13 +24L
94.355mph
10 1:22.769
110.639mph
Disco
Goodyear  
blito
 Shadows
Honda RA300 F1 1967 14 +3.318
109.485mph
14 +0.105
94.345mph
10 1:24.533
108.330mph
Disco
Firestone  
James Andrew
 
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 15 +3.485
109.267mph
15 +27L
103.061mph
7 1:24.605
108.238mph
Disco
Firestone  
HendyNichols
 
BRM P115 F1 1967 12 +2.989
109.917mph
16 +33L
98.566mph
1 1:30.214
101.508mph
Disco
Goodyear  
BadBlood
 Blue Moose Racing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 19 17 +34L
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0 ---
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Disco
Firestone  
Adam Cooper
 Team Coyote
BRM P115 F1 1967 17 +4.629
107.796mph
18 DNS ---
---
Goodyear  
clouds
 Shadows
BRM P115 F1 1967 20 19 ---
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Goodyear  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 18 20 ---
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Firestone  

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Not too much to keep me busy but Billy and Badblood show that even years of experience doesn\'t stop you spinning off the line...


Server replay time: 0h01m03s

Martins car does impossible things and here he is in three places at once. Fran is braking when suddenly 30yds disappears in front of him and he rear ends the Maddog.

Martin wobbles into Hendy as he regains control but neither did anything wrong there.

Warp is difficult to deal with and Martin\'s car is prone to it which is worth remembering. Nothing Fran could do. Fran does go on to make the worst pit stop I have ever seen in GPL. At least it made me laugh, but you really shouldn\'t back up on track. It invites disaster.

Fran has an unlucky race as he is later biffed by Jason who is overtaking in the ever disappearing gap, but neither driver reported it, so it can\'t have happened, can it?


Server replay time: 0h49m00s

Dave has to take a Shift-R on the last lap and cannot take a Stop\'n\'Go. Rules cover this and 30 seconds is added to the race time for this.

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« Reply #60 on: April 26, 2013, 11:15:18 PM +0100 »

I am all with you about drivers of similar pace which is why we talked about promotion/relegation but drivers only sign up for the season so that becomes difficult to enforce/encourage.
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« Reply #61 on: April 27, 2013, 01:54:59 AM +0100 »

Difficult? I don't really think so. Just a glance at the drivers list before the start of each season and you can spot any potential misplacement. As for encouragement, I don't recall seeing anyone being told "you should drive in this division, please sign up for a different one". Does it happen via PM?
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« Reply #62 on: April 28, 2013, 09:41:36 PM +0100 »

Yes Hristo, it happens via PM. I have been "encouraged" myself on  occasions.
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« Reply #63 on: May 03, 2013, 12:40:01 PM +0100 »

In the end you will fill 3 pages with quotes and counter-quotes, and after that a mod will come and tell you to shut up.  

This is my favourite quote of the year...

As for encouragement, I don't recall seeing anyone being told "you should drive in this division, please sign up for a different one". Does it happen via PM?

Yes, as Jason says it happens via PM. That allows drivers to be very candid. Jonny O moved series in the 65's (thanks Jonny!) this season.

Nobody has complained to me privately about the speed of the leaders in the Privateers and there is so much to do at the start of the season that rating the drivers is really difficult. We will 'encourage' the faster drivers to consider moving up but I don't much like the idea of 'forcing people' to move up. If there was a total disparity we do ask people to move and sometimes they do and sometimes they don't. We normally let it ride for one season and then take a tougher line but it gets hard when people are unknown and you never know who is going to turn up. It is a balancing act and I know that we get it wrong sometimes.
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« Reply #64 on: May 03, 2013, 02:35:50 PM +0100 »

We will 'encourage' the faster drivers to consider moving up but I don't much like the idea of 'forcing people' to move up. If there was a total disparity we do ask people to move and sometimes they do and sometimes they don't.

I'll be completely honest - you're being way too soft with managing the league in that respect and it's obvious many people aren't happy. I don't see why you have to wait for someone to complain to you about it in private before you realize that. Encouraging people doesn't work with everyone. Some people would just drop down a division where they can easily win rather than try and improve on their 5th or 6th place in the upper division. Whether you run 2 or 3 divisions for each series, you should not allow people to join whichever division they want so freely. It simply ruins the concept of having different ability-based divisions in the first place.
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