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  • P8EC Mexico City: June 06, 2013
June 06, 2013, 08:43:22 PM +0100 - Mexico City (1962-1979) - UKPnG Season 8 Enduro Cup
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Clive Loynes
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Lotus Elan 26R (#66121) P&G Group 3 U2L 1 1:58.456
94.700mph
1 1:10:28.778
90.193mph
34 1:59.884
93.572mph
Dunlop  
johnw
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Jaguar E-Type (#64004) P&G Group 3 O2L 4 +1.828
93.261mph
2 +40.312
89.341mph
34 2:01.529
92.306mph
Dunlop  
Alessandro Tancioni
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Lotus Elan 26R (#66121) P&G Group 3 U2L 3 +1.768
93.308mph
3 +1:14.563
88.630mph
34 2:01.947
91.989mph
Dunlop  
Legzy
 Team Oldie Racing
Lotus Elan 26R (#65007) P&G Group 3 U2L 9 +4.613
91.151mph
4 +1L
87.513mph
33 2:02.173
91.819mph
Dunlop  
goldtop
 Kerb Crawlers
Lotus Elan 26R (#66121) P&G Group 3 U2L 5 +2.096
93.054mph
5 33 2:01.168
92.581mph
unknown
Dunlop  
robiker
 
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#66057) P&G Group 3 O2L 14 +7.662
88.947mph
6 +2L
83.934mph
32 2:06.512
88.670mph
Dunlop  
Alex vV
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
DeTomaso Pantera (#72032) P&G 70s Gr4 O2L 15 +11.479
86.334mph
7 +51.328
82.939mph
32 2:10.202
86.157mph
Goodyear  
Animal Ed
 Team Oldie Racing
DeTomaso Pantera (#72032) P&G 70s Gr4 O2L 7 +3.192
92.215mph
8 +6L 28 2:02.537
91.546mph
unknown
Goodyear  
frex
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#67028) P&G Group 3 O2L 6 +3.055
92.319mph
9 +13L 21 2:02.664
91.452mph
DQ
Dunlop  
Jarda Zacek
 
DeTomaso Pantera (#72032) P&G 70s Gr4 O2L 11 +5.631
90.403mph
10 +16L 18 2:04.416
90.164mph
engine
Goodyear  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Shelby Cobra 289 (#63003) P&G Group 3 O2L 13 +6.923
89.471mph
11 18 2:03.824
90.595mph
suspension
Dunlop  
NPP
 Team Oldie Racing
Lotus Elan 26R (#65007) P&G Group 3 U2L 2 +0.661
94.175mph
12 +17L 17 2:01.550
92.290mph
unknown
Dunlop  
lelero
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#67028) P&G Group 3 O2L 8 +3.777
91.774mph
13 +29L 5 2:04.839
89.858mph
unknown
Dunlop  
massimogt italy
 
DeTomaso Pantera (#72032) P&G 70s Gr4 O2L 10 +5.041
90.835mph
14 5 2:06.186
88.899mph
unknown
Goodyear  
Nik
 
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#67028) P&G Group 3 O2L 12 +6.499
89.775mph
15 +31L 3 2:04.893
89.820mph
suspension
Dunlop  
SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GTR2
P&G 70s Gr4 O2L
2:01.648
92.215mph
Animal Ed
Qualifying
DeTomaso PanteraJune 06, 2013, 08:43:22 PM +0100
P8EC
GTR2
P&G 70s Gr4 O2L
2:02.537
91.546mph
Animal Ed
Race
DeTomaso PanteraJune 06, 2013, 08:43:22 PM +0100
P8EC
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« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2013, 09:56:46 AM +0100 »

Wish we could stop messing with the cars after the announcement.

If Matt has found a match then lets go with it.  From what I have read, nobody else has driven all of the cars but they still want to mess about with the list of runners and riders.

This is a complicated race and I have already started to do comparisons on fuel and tyre stops and would like not to have to bin all my efforts so far!

As I have said, my Elan(Wilment) and Cobra(non Wilment cos that's what it said on the list) are quite close.  The Jag was the slowest of the cars that I had the chance to test and I'm now perched 100 miles from my pc and not able to do any more testing.

My Elan setup is the one that has had the most work on it because MARA are doing a spec series using it at the moment.

From memory my Cobra time is a 2:01.1 and I'm a tad quicker in the Elan(Wilment).  I haven't got as far as working out if the Cobra tyres will last the distance.
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« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2013, 10:45:14 AM +0100 »

(Unsurprisingly) I am with CLive  Grin

I think any of the cars is a potential winner in the right hands. I think the Elan
is a good car for the long run. I believe the Cobra is quite a bit faster, but may need
to change tyres. The Jag is also a good option, but will need a slightly longer pitstop
I do not make car changes the same week of the event unless there is a serious
issue, and there isn't. Pick the car you like and race. As for white lines, you can
drive anywhere you like on the grey surface, lines or not. I consider the light green
surface to be off limits, as is the grass. Some of the half tyres are real and will have you off
and there are cut tracks at the chicane after the hairpin.

N.B I have increased the race length by one more lap, as my testing says even the most
fuel challenged car can do 38 laps with one stop. If I am wrong shout up.
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« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2013, 12:52:39 PM +0100 »

Just found out i cant make this race anyway...harrumph!  Sad

though maybe just as well seeing my laptimes need to improve by a further 3-5 secs !!  Shocked

Take as many Elans as you want  Wink but yes Matt and Clive are quite right, stick with it if tested. I just came back from hols and read a couple of posts that said Elan was upto 3 secs quicker so jumped to a conclusion.
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« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2013, 09:11:24 PM +0100 »

For me, all cars are pretty much equal with around 1 second time difference between fastest and slowest except Jag (around 1,5) but I`m still exploring "legal cuts" ...

My choice of weapon is ... well, don`t know yet. Ferrari or Pantera - both cars are capable for 2:02 something in race trim (full tank and harder compound tires).

Cobra is out of question because I can`t get rid of understeer (hate that) ...

Elan, hm, fast through the corners but what if I stuck behind someone who know where to put his car to give me no chance to pass him ... no worth of my nerves.
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« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2013, 09:58:12 PM +0100 »

Out of the cars I have tried, the Elan is fastest with the Cobra and Ferrari close behind. I haven't tried the Pantera and Jag yet. As usual, I'm nearly a second off Ed's pace. I may take the Elan simply because it's the Elan tt1 . I don't think I can live with the howl of the Ferrari over 70 minutes, and it needs to be driven in a very risky manner. The Cobra is ok and it gave me my first and only win, but will need a long pit stop.
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« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2013, 10:02:41 PM +0100 »

As for white lines, you can
drive anywhere you like on the grey surface, lines or not. I consider the light green
surface to be off limits, as is the grass. Some of the half tyres are real and will have you off
and there are cut tracks at the chicane after the hairpin.



So that's no wheels to touch the grass?
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« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2013, 10:59:18 PM +0100 »

Yes, no wheels on the grass, as per our normal keep off the grass and gravel guidelines.
If you take grass at some places you will get cuts anyway, so don't risk it.
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« Reply #22 on: June 04, 2013, 08:56:19 AM +0100 »

Just a quick note to say that I will not be taking part in this race.
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« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2013, 01:06:52 PM +0100 »

I'm sure that the solid polo mints keep moving about to catch me out!
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« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2013, 06:50:42 PM +0100 »

I am confused about the fuel calculations with the x2 multiplier. Is it set by the server? Yesterday, the server seemed to be set to 1x. How do I calculate pit strategy?
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« Reply #25 on: June 05, 2013, 09:04:58 PM +0100 »

I am confused about the fuel calculations with the x2 multiplier. Is it set by the server? Yesterday, the server seemed to be set to 1x. How do I calculate pit strategy?

This is my fuel consumptions but be very careful because my driving style allows me to use less fuel than anybody else here ... I think.

Numbers are already multiplied x2.

Pantera   - 5,5 liter per lap
275 gtb/c - 6,6
Elan      - 3
cobra     - 6,1
Jag lightweight 5spd - 4,6

...with the little help from MoTec ...
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« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2013, 09:09:01 PM +0100 »

Sorry, I forgot to set the 2x fuel. I have restarted the server now with 2x fuel.
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« Reply #27 on: June 05, 2013, 09:43:57 PM +0100 »

Cheers, I think I meanwhile worked it out for myself. Ed, I'm getting 3l (or 1.48 without the multiplier), just as you - but unfortunately, I am a second or so at least off your pace.
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« Reply #28 on: June 06, 2013, 05:17:46 AM +0100 »

Call me nostalgic, but I like the "GPL" tracks. I also like this group of cars, and I have been wanting to try an Enduro Cup race with you all. I hope that I am able to join this race.  Undecided

EDIT: My dad went to the 1970 Formula One race at this track. Jochen Rindt had won the championship, and then perished before the end of the season.
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« Reply #29 on: June 06, 2013, 09:32:16 AM +0100 »

I agree about the GPL tracks Walter.

But where did you get the habit of waking up so damned early?
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