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  • S2469X Daytona: May 03, 2013
May 03, 2013, 09:37:37 PM +0100 - Daytona (Road) - UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X)
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 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
philippe GIRARD
 Blue Moose Racing
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 1 1:46.949
128.242mph
1 49:24.902
124.899mph
27 1:48.329
126.608mph
Dunlop  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
McLaren M7 (DFV) F1 1969 3 +0.689
127.421mph
2 +3.459
124.753mph
27 1:47.933
127.072mph
Firestone  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
McLaren M7 (DFV) F1 1969 4 +3.044
124.692mph
3 +1L
118.769mph
26 1:51.409
123.108mph
Firestone  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
McLaren M7 (DFV) F1 1969 5 +4.929
122.592mph
4 +8.450
118.436mph
26 1:50.558
124.055mph
Firestone  
JonnyO
 Team Coyote
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 2 +0.378
127.790mph
5 +18L
123.177mph
9 1:47.388
127.717mph
Disco
Firestone  
UKGPL 3
 
McLaren M7 (DFV) F1 1969 6 6 DNS ---
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Firestone  

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Not much in the Red Zone. Jonny blows an engine off the line and Fran misjudges the pass as Jonny has started then halted. Fran knows he got this wrong but although he baulks Bernie there isn't much to say.

May 03, 2013, 09:39:23 PM +0100 - Daytona (Road) - UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
McLaren M7 (DFV) F1 1969 6 +1.032
131.480mph
1 47:32.651
129.808mph
27 1:44.149
131.683mph
Firestone  
MagicArsouille
 
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 2 +0.114
132.648mph
2 +5.585
129.554mph
27 1:43.223
132.865mph
Dunlop  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 3 +0.688
131.915mph
3 +5.666
129.551mph
27 1:43.782
132.149mph
Dunlop  
Ronniepeterson
 Clark-Hill Racing
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 9 +1.789
130.533mph
4 +29.939
128.460mph
27 1:44.676
131.020mph
Dunlop  
Artiglietti
 
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 5 +0.801
131.772mph
5 +32.004
128.368mph
27 1:44.514
131.224mph
Firestone  
kinghiro
 Clark-Hill Racing
McLaren M7 (DFV) F1 1969 7 +1.102
131.392mph
6 +39.252
128.046mph
27 1:45.064
130.537mph
Firestone  
Piero Mercaldo
 Squadra Padova Corse
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 4 +0.756
131.829mph
7 +46.290
127.735mph
27 1:44.090
131.758mph
Dunlop  
DLogan
 
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 1 1:43.278
132.794mph
8 (+1) +46.566
127.723mph
27 1:44.907
130.732mph
Dunlop  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 10 +3.305
128.676mph
9 +1:12.055
126.610mph
27 1:45.440
130.071mph
Dunlop  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
McLaren M7 (DFV) F1 1969 12 +4.568
127.169mph
10 +1L
124.885mph
26 1:46.597
128.659mph
Firestone  
AnGex
 Black Night Racing
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 11 +3.894
127.969mph
11 +26.270
123.746mph
26 1:47.435
127.656mph
Dunlop  
Marco Mercaldo
 Squadra Padova Corse
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 8 +1.249
131.207mph
12 +9L
109.069mph
18 1:46.229
129.105mph
Disco
Firestone  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
McLaren M7 (DFV) F1 1969 13 13 DNS ---
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Firestone  

Moderator's Report

Not too much action in the Red Zone


Server replay time: 0

Marco sees Art spinning on the banking ahead and drifts wide to avoid him. Sadly Andreas is already there and Marco was unaware of him. He should have slowed as well as moving wide. Phil is caught up in the carnage.


Server replay time: 0h06m38s

Dean slightly misjudges the braking point of Piero ahead and rear ends him

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Grand Prix Legends
F1 1969
1:43.278
132.794mph
DLogan
Qualifying
Matra MS80 (DFV)May 03, 2013, 09:39:23 PM +0100
S2469X
Grand Prix Legends
F1 1969
1:43.223
132.865mph
MagicArsouille
Race
Matra MS80 (DFV)May 03, 2013, 09:39:23 PM +0100
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« Reply #45 on: May 05, 2013, 12:29:13 AM +0100 »

Guys, we did race Dragon's Nest in Works a few seasons back (S22?), which is fantasy, so this discussion is a bit of a non-starter... I think fantasy tracks are a great opportunity made possible by the game. If it were for me, I would race Gothica and Slotcars  Grin Grin

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« Reply #46 on: May 05, 2013, 08:33:52 AM +0100 »

Guys, we did race Dragon's Nest in Works a few seasons back (S22?), which is fantasy, so this discussion is a bit of a non-starter... I think fantasy tracks are a great opportunity made possible by the game. If it were for me, I would race Gothica and Slotcars  Grin Grin

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« Reply #47 on: May 05, 2013, 08:49:37 AM +0100 »

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« Reply #48 on: May 05, 2013, 09:40:26 AM +0100 »

Guys, we did race Dragon's Nest in Works a few seasons back (S22?), which is fantasy, so this discussion is a bit of a non-starter... I think fantasy tracks are a great opportunity made possible by the game. If it were for me, I would race Gothica and Slotcars  Grin Grin



I see that more as an exception of the rule rather than a tendency. 22 was the season I skipped, but in all others I've participated I don't think there was a free choice of fantasy tracks. I agree though, there are some awesome fantasy tracks and if we drop the rule of running real tracks completely, we could get a refreshing variety of new tracks which nobody (or very few) would know. They have to be safe tracks though, freeze-wise.
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« Reply #49 on: May 05, 2013, 06:51:34 PM +0100 »

... if we drop the rule of running real tracks completely,
I'm pretty sure there has never been a published rule that mandated the use of real tracks only.  It's true that when UKGPL started, the intention was to recreate the original 67 season but a formal rule outlawing fantasy tracks was never agreed.  Over the years we have tended to use real tracks but we have used an occasional fantasy track.  I think the first fantasy track we ever used was Lime Rock (extended version).

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we could get a refreshing variety of new tracks which nobody (or very few) would know. They have to be safe tracks though, freeze-wise.
That is the issue in a nutshell.  New tracks create interest for drivers looking for a challenge but if a driver doesn't have the time to learn a new track it is a disincentive.  Any track, real or fantasy has to be reliable and stable.

The compromise of trying to introduce 1 or 2 new tracks per season is a good one.  There is no need to limit ourselves to real tracks IMO. 
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« Reply #50 on: May 06, 2013, 10:39:15 AM +0100 »

How about GPVL Founders or Vallelunga '71?  Grin
The first is a fantasy track from my wife's son mind and yours truly.  Smiley
http://gpltd.bcsims.com/?dis=G#19

The second is the clockwise seventy version of Vallelunga. Both tracks are safe and stable.

http://www.fpolicardi.it/vallelunga.htm

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« Reply #51 on: May 06, 2013, 12:08:34 PM +0100 »

Seeing the interest generated here regarding "fantasy tracks" I have just had a fiendish thought about the GT/Can Am series next season.

 Maybe it could be run as we did this season, alternating between GT's and Can Ams on 5 circuits but all fantasy tracks? I think we have at least 3 proven "safe" fantasy tracks thus far, that we have used before, and they would not be totally new to everyone.

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So, between now and the start of next season let me know of any fantasy tracks that have proven themselves stable and also offer some opportunity of good racing and I will compile a list. Maybe we could test some in the fun races between seasons.
With luck we could build up a list of reliable and popular fantasy circuits from which we could use 1 or 2 in other mods each season??
Your thoughts gentlemen? Roll Eyes

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« Reply #52 on: May 06, 2013, 12:39:46 PM +0100 »

It would certainly be different.  Phil plans to test Sopheve.  If most will be learning it anyway, it's another candidate to consider.  It's not a easy track though, so a definite maybe?
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« Reply #53 on: May 06, 2013, 12:43:15 PM +0100 »

Erm...Tortuga anyone..? Just tried it, very nice track, and you get to drive to the beach, with girls in bikini waving at you from the trackside  Grin Grin. Beware though, theres killer tsunami waves if you venture too far on the sea.. Grin

I had a casual look around the track database and downloaded this 'Glacier international' (theres also a winter section, nice and refreshing to run over the summer, if only you guys had one..). It is a very long track, and very fast for the most of it. Maybe theres more fun tracks around, but this is very wide, which could be a plus for the big sportscars.
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« Reply #54 on: May 06, 2013, 03:06:08 PM +0100 »



With luck we could build up a list of reliable and popular fantasy circuits from which we could use 1 or 2 in other mods each season??
Your thoughts gentlemen? Roll Eyes



Road 67. Very fast & would be great fun in the Can-Ams.
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« Reply #55 on: May 06, 2013, 03:45:49 PM +0100 »

Seeing the interest generated here regarding "fantasy tracks" I have just had a fiendish thought about the GT/Can Am series next season.

 Maybe it could be run as we did this season, alternating between GT's and Can Ams on 5 circuits but all fantasy tracks? I think we have at least 3 proven "safe" fantasy tracks thus far, that we have used before, and they would not be totally new to everyone.

The Moon
Jops Siffert
Effex

So, between now and the start of next season let me know of any fantasy tracks that have proven themselves stable and also offer some opportunity of good racing and I will compile a list. Maybe we could test some in the fun races between seasons.
With luck we could build up a list of reliable and popular fantasy circuits from which we could use 1 or 2 in other mods each season??
Your thoughts gentlemen? Roll Eyes



maybe this should be moved to a new thread , i guess not every gt/can am driver is reading a 69x race thread clive .

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« Reply #56 on: May 06, 2013, 04:42:36 PM +0100 »

yes I think you might be right John. It does seem to have generated rather a lot posts.

This discussion about fantasy tracks will continue on the GPL general section.

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=11662.0

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« Reply #57 on: May 31, 2013, 05:54:49 PM +0100 »

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« Reply #58 on: May 31, 2013, 06:17:45 PM +0100 »

Apologies to Piero for my goof on braking into T1. Sad

Thanks for a good dice in the closing stages.
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