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July 21, 2013, 10:37:34 PM +0100 - Adelaide (GP) - UKGPL Season 25 (2013) Works Trophy (67)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
fpolicardi
 Team7
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 5 +0.971
91.635mph
1 43:23.139
91.000mph
28 1:31.176
92.790mph
Goodyear  
kinghiro
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 3 +0.791
91.814mph
2 +26.476
90.084mph
28 1:32.292
91.668mph
Goodyear  
Samb
 Black Night Racing
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 1 1:31.354
92.609mph
3 +31.577
89.909mph
28 1:31.837
92.122mph
Firestone  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 10 +2.003
90.622mph
4 (+1) +1:28.858
87.996mph
28 1:33.422
90.559mph
Goodyear  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 15 +4.385
88.367mph
5 +1:34.874
87.800mph
28 1:33.302
90.675mph
Firestone  
AndyL
 
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 13 +3.865
88.850mph
6 +1L
87.402mph
27 1:34.487
89.538mph
Firestone  
s2173
 Team7
BRM P115 F1 1967 12 +3.719
88.986mph
7 +2L
83.933mph
26 1:35.614
88.483mph
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 4 +0.835
91.770mph
8 +6L
90.402mph
22 1:31.185
92.781mph
Disco
Goodyear  
natan5
 NVRacing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 6 +1.048
91.559mph
9 +22L
88.281mph
6 1:32.797
91.169mph
Piston
Goodyear  
DLogan
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 7 +1.103
91.504mph
10 +26L
83.539mph
2 1:35.353
88.725mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Arf Arf Arf
 Team Baarf
Honda RA300 F1 1967 9 +1.857
90.764mph
11 +2.345
82.582mph
2 1:36.637
87.546mph
Disco
Firestone  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 14 +4.005
88.720mph
12 +8.156
80.305mph
2 1:37.141
87.092mph
Disco
Firestone  
Podkrecony_Ziutek
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 11 +2.903
89.757mph
13 +8.767
80.073mph
2 1:36.715
87.476mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Ronniepeterson
 
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 2 +0.711
91.894mph
14 +28L
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Disco
Firestone  
Maarten Steverink
 
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 8 +1.551
91.063mph
15
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0 ---
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Disco
Firestone  
Gpg UKGPL
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 16 16 DNS ---
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Firestone  

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SUMMARY
Congratulations to Fulvio on a fine drive for a well deserved win. Starting fifth on the grid he gradually moved up the field inheriting fourth place when Ronnie had to pull out with a blown engine (very considerate driving to pull off the track as soon as he noticed trouble) and third place with a nice move up the inside of King Hiro into the Pit Hairpin. Sam had qualified on pole and led for the first five laps but the constant pressure from Clive began to tell and he ran wide at the Stag Hotel on lap six and dropped back to fifth. Sam passed King Hiro down the Brabham Straight on lap ten but he spun out at the Chicane on lap nineteen and allowed King Hiro back through. Fulvio took the lead on lap thirteen when Clive put a wheel on the grass at the Pit Hairpin causing him to spin out into the sand trap. Clive managed to rejoin in second place and set off after Fulvio. For the next ten laps Clive tried to put Fulvio under as much pressure as possible but on lap twenty he half spun at the Brabham Hairpin and Fulvio extended his lead. Another spin at Wakefield Corner on lap twenty two and Clive lost more ground before he finally over cooked it completely at the Chicane on lap twenty three, rolling his Brabham and ending his race. King Hiro held onto second place and Sam claimed the final podium spot.

A great race with ony two incidents of note.


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Lap 1 - Chicane - Natan Veksler, Dean Logan, Maarten Steverink and Doni Yourth
Dean lines up in P7 and Natan in P6. Dean gets a slightly better start and is alongside as they approach the Chicane. Dean is closing in on Fulvio who has eased off early to drop in behind Clive who is clearly ahead. Dean has the inside line but he has to back off to avoid getting too close to Fulvio and this allows Natan to edge ahead. But there is still 50% overlap as the cars reach turn-in for the Chicane. Natan is on the outside and takes the racing line, sweeping across the front of Dean; no physical contact is made but there is some warp contact which sends Natan into a spin. Maarten and Doni are close behind and whilst Maarten manages to avoid the pirouetting Natan, Doni can't avoid Maarten and they collide. Natan and Dean continue unscathed, Doni is lucky not to damage his car but Maarten is upturned and is out of the race.

Dean did nothing wrong. He got an excellent start , kept to his side of the track and eased off early to avoid getting too close to Fulvio.

Natan, whilst having an advantage, was not far enough ahead to have won the corner and he should have given Dean more room. Dean never appeared in Natan's mirrors, so Natan should have realized Dean was alongside and he should not have cut across on the racing line. Having said that there was no actual contact recorded on the server, the drivers were contesting the corner (overlap between 50% and 100% at turn-in) and warp played a role. So this has to go down as a warp induced racing incident but it could have been avoided if Natan had remained on his own side of the track until he could see Dean in his mirrors.

Maarten did nothing wrong and the most right. He had the presence of mind and skill to avoid hitting Natan but he was collected by Doni.

Doni was unsighted and didn't have a clear view of Natan spinning otherwise he may have been able to avoid hitting Maarten.


Server replay time: 0h04m31s

Lap 3 - Wakefield Corner - David Rainier, Podkrecony Ziutek and Doni Yourth
Dean had crashed at the Chicane and Arf had hit the wreckage. The yellow flags were flying and David quite rightly slowed down to avoid the carnage. Pod slowed down too but as the green flag was held out he moved right to position his car ready to attack David up the inside into Wakefield Corner. Doni floored it as he past the green flag and he tried to overtake David on the left. Doni made contact with David who was knocked sideways into Podkrecony. David and Podkrecony were out of the race but Doni was able to continue.

David was right to be cautious and slowed for the yellow flags . He did nothing wrong but was quite slow on the approach to Wakefield Corner. Podkrecony did nothing wrong either, he waited for the green flag before attempting to overtake David.

Doni was clearly faster than David at this point and was caught out by the speed differential, nevertheless he was a little careless when positioning his car for a pass. There was plenty of room to David's left (at least 3 car widths) so there was no need to rear-end him.

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« on: July 18, 2013, 05:58:38 PM +0100 »

Season 25 Works Trophy, Round 2, Adelaide

Welcome to the second round in the premier division of the premier class in UKGPL for the continuation of our twenty fifth season. We stay south of the Equator and move East to South Australia and Adelaide. An interesting circuit and tough in the 67's.

The 3.780 km (2.349 mi) long "Grand Prix" version of this temporary street track hosted eleven Formula One Australian Grand Prix events from 1985 to 1995, as well as an American Le Mans Series endurance race on New Year's Eve in 2000 (Race of a Thousand Years). This was the last race to be held on the long form of the circuit.

As always, we will run Pro Damage, so resets are not allowed.

Race List = IGOR
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IP address = 62.195.2.111
Race date = 21-07-2013
Race Time = race starts at 21:30 UK time
Qualifying Time = Between 30 and 60 minutes, starting no later than 21:00 UK time
Track = Adelaide Full GP Circuit (can be downloaded from here)
Variant = 67F1
Damage Model = PRO
Race length = 50 minutes (laps 28)
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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2013, 04:10:51 PM +0100 »

GPG server is set for 28 laps Long race and listening on Igor.
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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2013, 09:38:44 PM +0100 »

Cold tyres, blown engine................................must be time for MotoGP. Good luck everyone.
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« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2013, 09:41:43 PM +0100 »

Sorry to see Arf caught up in my misfortune  Sad .  Brab didn't want to turn into T1 like it had in practice, first trip across kerbing went OK, second time not so much.  :'(
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« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2013, 09:42:40 PM +0100 »

S25 is really building up to be fun. Not.

2 races, taken out twice by drivers out of control. This time it was Dean who doesn't seem to be able to take T1. He lost it on L2 (I think) but was lucky to survive a trip over those ridiculously large kerbs. However the next lap he lost it properly, and even though I went wide his car managed to clip me and remove my back wheel...

I'm only glad I decided to take the Honda at the last minute over the Brabham, so that's 7 tokens saved for later in the season.

Oh, and I can watch MotoGP too now...
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« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2013, 09:45:36 PM +0100 »

I was rear ended by Doni, and my Cooper was pushed on Bart' s car !
Both (Bart and me), we had to retire ...
Great move, Doni !

Incredible the number of cars with accident, out of the track etc. during the 2 or 3 laps where I had the chance to race ...now, I would prefer to finish the season with the Privateers, it seems they are better drivers !
  
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« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2013, 10:38:36 PM +0100 »

Managed to pick up a few places in the early laps thanks to a few shunts (submit incident reports please) and found myself in about 6th place with most of the race still to run.  Then had a couple of nice battles with Andy and Doni.  I was following Andy and trying to put him under pressure; he cracked and spun and I was through.  Then for about 15 laps I had Doni on my tail.  I tried to get good exits out of the corners and rely on my Ferrari power to keep enough of a gap on the straights.  The strategy was working well until I made a mess of T1 and Doni managed to outbrake me at T2 and he was through.  I had to up my pace to try to stay with him and hope he made a mistake.  Thankfully he outbraked himself at the end of the long straight and I managed to get along side on the outside of the twisty bits and I think we were side by side through most of it until the last turn when I had the inside line and I was through.  I got a bit carried away after that and I outbraked myself into T1 and Doni was through again.  I pushed hard on the last lap (too hard in fact I spun) but I wasn't going to get another chance, Doni was too far ahead.  Great racing, clean and fair as it should be Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2013, 11:02:19 PM +0100 »

A great race that, glad to be back. The Cooper was a treat to drive around Adelaide. I managed a very consistent run in qualifying with no spins and grabbing Pole was a pleasant suprise. Sadly I couldn't replicate that form in the race and an error-strewn race meant I dropped to 4th behind Fulvio, Clive and Tom. That became a lucky 3rd when Clive disconnected with a few laps to go.

Congrats to Fulvio and Tom for consistent races. I'll be in Germany in a couple of weeks so sadly will have to miss Zandvoort but I'm hoping to be able to attend most races in the second half of the season. See you soon guys, it was a pleasure  Smiley.
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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2013, 11:09:56 PM +0100 »

Nice to see you back Sam.
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« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2013, 01:06:42 PM +0100 »

Excuse No 217b/967

"The heat in Adelaide was so great that the sweat ran off my body and got onto the rear tyres causing me to lose braking into the chicane.  As a result I hit the kerb almost sideways and after a barrel roll which poured a huge amount of sweat out of the cockpit I landed upon my head."

Partly true....I was extremely hot and uncomfortable, but actually I think I had damaged the right rear suspension somewhere earlier ( probably when I skimmed along the wall out of the Esses at T1) because the tyre temps on that one wheel were running at around 330F!! by about lap 15.

I was surprised that my times in the Brab were competitive as it just felt so slow. It seemed to take an age to slow down and I just could not get on the power as soon as I wanted to without risking a spin  Undecided, but it seems that I was about as fast as anyone else.

I got lucky in the early laps and inherited 2nd spot as others ran wide. Then I recognised a familiar rear end and followed Samb for a few laps ( obviously lost none of his pace in that Cooper!!) eventually pressuring him into an error that allowed me a clean escape. But then Fulvio appeared in my mirrors and refused to go away hounding me for lap after lap until I think he made a small error and I relaxed...bad idea!! stopped concentrating and managed a stupid spin!! Fulvio swept past and took the lead.

I chased down the gap to Fulvio, but it was about this time that the problem with the rear tyre started to manifest itself and the rear end of the car seemed intent on passing the front at every opportunity no matter how careful I was. Another half spin dropped me back and I was probably driving too hard with a damaged car when I lost the rear into the T1 chicane.

grats to Fulvio who was quick and to the podium people and of course to all those who finished.
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« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2013, 04:59:00 PM +0100 »

Great excuse !
Now i understand why is my engine blew up  Shocked Shocked Shocked
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« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2013, 05:23:56 PM +0100 »

Thx Clive, now I know that you weren't discoed so I'm more proud of my win  Smiley
I started qualy with a GH Rouen setup with 60/60/1 diff that was very difficult to drive, then some click to ARB to reduce oversteering and the beast became more driveable for me. Anyway I learned to drive with an egg under the throttle out of slow turns and it payed. I was quite surprised to see you going wide at last turn and I wasn't comfortable with you close behind after that. The hot and the effort were high and at the end I was completely wet.
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« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2013, 01:09:01 AM +0100 »

Grats, Fulvio!  Super drive.

Well done to both Tom & Sam for scoring podiums!  Take a bow.

Dave & Bart: Sorry, gys.  My bad.  I was a little confused as to what exactly was taking place up ahead of me.  The red car(your Cooper, Dave)slowing dramatically and dragging Bart's Brabham down with you to the point he almost hit you.  I thought that one or the other of you was in trouble.  I swept to the left and thought I'd make a cinch pass but mis-judged and drilled the Cooper's LR.  I got away with a simple spin.  No justice.  Sorry, again.

Phil: That was the most sim racing fun I've had in a long, long time, mate.  It's events such as this that can keep a body coming back in the off-chance that a great battle like that can occur.  Almost 20 laps of nose-to-tail running with very little to judge between us.  That side-by-side jockeying coming off the hairpin was breath-taking!  Bad luck for you in that spin.  Take solice in the fact that you scored a fastest lap better than I and that you shaved something like 2-1/2 seconds off your qualifying time.  BALLS TO THE WALL!!!   Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2013, 12:00:46 AM +0100 »

That side-by-side jockeying coming off the hairpin was breath-taking!  Bad luck for you in that spin.
Yes it was great fun Grin.  The spin was down to the pressure you put me under!!  I had to drive at my absolute limit to compete with you but we both managed to keep it clean and not take silly risks.  Grats on some great racing.
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« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2013, 12:49:47 AM +0100 »

Yes, it certainly was top hole stuff, Phil.  But please, allow me to make one small correction re your comment that I 'outbraked' myself setting up the side-by-side.  In fact, I was quite under control in the braking zone but as we got very near the corner, I picked up your image in my left-side mirror and I thought that you were going to hit me.  This impression was more out of the corner of my eye than a direct POV glance.  I very slightly adjusted my trajectory into the corner in hopes of avoiding a collision by giving you more room on the left.  Trying to change direction, however slightly, while braking hard is chancy at best but I did manage to hold on.  I went slightly sideways and wide of the apex to set up our little drag race.
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