UKPnG Season 8 Limited Car Challenge - Lakeside - Aug 29

[goldtop]

BMW and 911 are almost identical in lap times, so it comes down to whether you fancy pushing your advantage down the straights or in the corners which isn't such an easy choice as the straights aren't very straight  Advantage pork then.

Well not necessarily. The pork has the added complication of the handling changing dramatically throughout the race with the changing fuel load having a big influence on the way the pork handles.....what seems like a nice setup at the start can be a real handful by race end. I never understood this until recently, but even understanding this doesn't make it easy to overcome.

[Legzy]

Hope to be back for this one

Looks like I'm going to miss this one now, shame as I've always enjoyed this track
Have a good race & I will see you next week!

[Walter Conn]

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Regarding the 911, I recently read some setup advice that might help an aspiring Porsche driver. Malcolm Reynolds from the NG WNR said, "if you can't reduce the oversteer anymore at the rear, it's time to increase understeer at the front Sounds counter productive but it balances the car out. High 'slow rebound' damper settings at the rear will help control a twitchy rear end though

I will stick with "drive it properly" like Porsche should be driven and that means to use throttle to ballance understeer/oversteer.

Slight lift off (or just lift off - depends on situation) to cure understeer and full throttle to cure oversteer ...

Idea behind this is that, if you lift off, you don`t have enough load on rear tires to fight heavy tail because of mass transfer ...

I agree and I enjoy reading your description. I mostly was trying to pass along the information regarding the rear rebound setting. I might even increase the rear rebound on my BMW setup.

[Clive Loynes]

I see that John was in the 55s when we last came here in v2 but I'm not sure how v3 compares or what flavour of 911 we would have been in for that matter!

[Mogget]

That appears to have been an RSR3.0, Clive.

[Hotkeys]

Sorry I tapped you Postal 

Stig

[SpecialKS]

Like this track and car combo! Thanks for that Matt 

New PB in practice and a good start. Was up to sixth due to other's mistakes, then made a mistake
on my own and fell back to 12th just behind WConn and Seniordan although result listed me in last
position 

Some nice laps after that, then I lost the car just before the leaders were going to lap me and very
quickly left the race. Don't wanted to destroy their race.

CU next time.

[Stefan aka Postal]

Sorry I tapped you Postal  

Stig

No problemo Hotkeys it can happen, i had a nice race after all. Had an early spin on turn 2 when was running the outside of AnimalEd. Sadly even the slightest brush of him and me send me in a slide and i saw the whole field come by. But i was still alive, so i kept going.
Caught op with Walter and Alex last laps, they decided to give each other a hard time on the last lap and i managed to sneak by.
Was on mediums all round (as to lack of practice i quess). Couldn't get rid of last bit of understeer witch killed the front left. Never driven the Beemer before, it was a nice drive on this lovely track. Cant wait for the next one. Hope find that extra second race pace.

[phspok]

Results and Replay POsted

I enjoyed that, Lakeside usually gives some good tussles. I had got up to 6th when Syd and then Alex
made some errors, was just about keeping them behind when TightVNC closed my screen to say it had times out.... 
Arghhh, drove back onto the track to be immediately lapped, but then kept going anyway as I was having fun with the
wandering beetle.

[Walter Conn]

Good race Postal and Alex. Sorry that I left track and rejoined right in front of you Alex! I had hard tires, and the car had a nice balance. I was off pace until the last ten laps when I was able to catch Alex. I made it past and then went wide before the last two corners. Alex had to slow down to keep from hitting me, and Postal was sneaky and passed us both. Congrats to the Podium! Thanks for the race, W.C.  

[Mogget]

A good first half of the race keeping pace with Goldtop up front, but then my lack of setup knowledge bit me in the ass. I have never even considered using different tyres for front and rear, and this was one race where I needed it. I guess my failing front tyres resulted in the annoying understeer that I suffered towards the end of the race, and that dropped me from P2 to P4. Not a bad result, but a rather frustrating one.

[Clive Loynes]

Well I made a right monkey's of that!

Qually setup was good for 3rd on the grid but I had set up my race car to be loose on the back and that caught me out on the first lap with a spin at the long right hander over the hump.

I had already dropped to 4th because the car in front on the grid, probably Tudor, didn't move soon enough and so I had to back off.  That let frex through into 3rd.

After that I just had to go for it but I just do not know what the fast blokes were using for grip!  I lost 30 seconds to them at the start and they were pulling away from me all race; finally lapping me with a few laps to go.

Grats to Tudor, Geoffers and Aged Ed.

Also WD to Syd for being top Soggy.

[Mogget]

Medium tyres all around worked fine for the first half of the race, Clive. I qualified on these and with race fuel, so I had every confidence that I would be able to challenge for the lead. I can normally get away with my basic setup tweaks, but it seems that this track needed to be treated a bit more carefully for a 45 minute race. I will have to remember that "hard tyres at the front, medium tyres at the rear" trick in future

[goldtop]

I had already dropped to 4th because the car in front on the grid, probably Tudor, didn't move soon enough and so I had to back off.  That let frex through into 3rd.

Well I had a great start, so that must have been Geoffers 

At the last minute I decided to go for hard fronts/med rears for the race, but hadn't tested so wasn't sure how it would go. For the first third of the race I suffered with understeer, but after that the car was nicely balanced. By this time Mogget was busy with Ed so I had an easy run with the only entertainment coming from Frex who couldn't make up his mind if he wanted to unlap himself or not.

On a less happy note, I was blocked twice on quali laps by a driver joining from the pitlane on the racing line and then later rejoining the track after an off, both of which resulted in contact. The same driver was then less than helpful in race when he was being lapped again resulting in contact, thankfully this time with no consequence. Thanks for that!

[Animal Ed]

I was worried about start because of extra long 1st gear but it turns out that BMW is not such a starter so I was able to retain my position to T1.
Ended up in 3rd spot After Geoffers and frex made mistake and next 30 laps spent behind Mogget.

It was fine at the begining having both Mogget and GT in shooting range until Mogget start to have problem with front left tire and Geoffers closing fast.
It was nervous 5 ish laps trying to find a gap or good spot for dive bomb because I`ll be sitting duck with lack of top speed if Geoffers catch us.
Fortunately (for me off course) Mogget went wide leaving me clear road ... but too late to try something with GT ...

Anyway second place is great result for me.