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August 06, 2013, 09:38:59 PM +0100 - Bathurst - UKGPL Season 25 (2013) Historic Trophy (66)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
MagicArsouille
 
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 4 +0.995
111.295mph
1 38:17.225
110.234mph
18 2:06.226
111.455mph
Firestone  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Honda RA273 F1 1966 1 2:05.412
112.178mph
2 +5.373
109.977mph
18 2:05.777
111.852mph
Goodyear  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 5 +2.734
109.785mph
3 +45.305
108.102mph
18 2:07.631
110.228mph
Firestone  
DLogan
 
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 9 +4.163
108.574mph
4 +54.048
107.700mph
18 2:08.134
109.795mph
Firestone  
AnGex
 Black Night Racing
Cooper T81 (Maserati) F1 1966 10 +5.178
107.730mph
5 +1:36.129
105.806mph
18 2:10.479
107.822mph
Firestone  
Nigel Smith
 Blue Moose Racing
Honda RA273 F1 1966 12 6 +3L
102.411mph
15 2:11.678
106.840mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Ronniepeterson
 
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 2 +0.077
112.109mph
7 +12L
109.823mph
6 2:07.125
110.666mph
Disco
Goodyear  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 6 +2.988
109.567mph
8 +15L
92.075mph
3 2:13.145
105.663mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 3 +0.661
111.590mph
9 +17L
99.428mph
1 2:21.667
99.307mph
Disco
Firestone  
Andy Miller
 Team RaceConnect
BRM P83 F1 1966 7 +3.494
109.137mph
10 +18L
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Disco
Goodyear  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 8 +4.037
108.680mph
11
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0 ---
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Disco
Goodyear  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 11 12 DNS ---
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Goodyear  

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No incident during the red zone and no reported incident for the race.

Congrats all and thanks for the easy work.

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F1 1966
2:05.412
112.178mph
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Qualifying
Honda RA273August 06, 2013, 09:38:59 PM +0100
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Grand Prix Legends
F1 1966
2:05.777
111.852mph
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« on: July 29, 2013, 04:04:58 PM +0100 »

Season 25 Historic Trophy (66) - Round 3 - Bathurst
welcome at the Bathurst / Mount Panorama circuit in Australia.
Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_T7_2
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = 06-08-2013
Race Time = race starts at 21:30 UK time
Qualifying Time = Between 30 and 60 minutes, starting no later than 21:00 UK time
Tracks = Bathurst
Variant = 66
Damage Model = PRO
Race length = 50 minutes (laps 18)
Password: see above

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Driver lists and rules can be found on the championship standings page


The full time drivers can start to practice as soon as the server is available.  Reserve drivers can also join as soon as the server becomes available but must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 5 minutes; this will allow any remaining full timers to join.  If there is enough space on the grid, the reserve drivers will be able to rejoin when there are 30 mins of qualifying left. 

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

The race will be run under PRO rules so no resets are allowed.


For THIS RACE, 3 liters car must be selected

All drivers have free choice for Race 3.
Full moderation of lap one red zone

LAP ONE RED ZONE: Full moderation from race start to the exit of The Dipper.
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« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2013, 05:22:15 PM +0100 »

T7 server is set for 18 laps Long race and listening on Igor in Console session.
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« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2013, 12:03:14 PM +0100 »

I am really confused ...

Here, I cannot do better than 2'19" with the Cooper, Honda or Ferrari
and 2'17 with the BT19.

Looking at GPL rank, the best times are 2'04" and an average time is 2'10" ...

My top speed is around 235 km/h which seems really ridiculous.

I tried different setups but no real change ...
It's not only my way of driving (It would not be possible for me to do 2'04 but 2'10-2'12 should be possible).
 
I think something is bad with my install ...!

 
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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2013, 01:10:38 PM +0100 »

I did try a couple of cars last night around Bathurst and there were some differences in the top speeds that I got.

TBH I gave up because I got bored waiting 2 minutes to get around to start a timed lap lol

The best cars peaked out at about 170mph (274kph)? but this speed was very much affected by the gear ratios. I found that all the cars I tested did not like a big gap between 4th and 5th. The engines in 1966 appear to lose a lot of torque at high revs??

If I set 5th high ( to allow for some slipstreaming) the car would just not pull itself up to the 274kph, or if too low then I would be bouncing on the red line way before the end of  Conrod Straight.
Even the Mclaren was pulling 166mph (266kph) after some tweaking of ratios.

Your speed does seem a little slow? have you checked that nothing is stopping your pedal going the full distance?
Tyre pressures and toe in can also cost you speed if not set correctly.

Just as an experiment try adding some tyre pressure and  set toe in/out to zero. A careful lap until you reach the straight and see what you get as max speed?
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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2013, 01:51:45 PM +0100 »

<with some snipping!>
Here, I cannot do better than 2'19" with the Cooper, Honda or Ferrari and 2'17 with the BT19.
Looking at GPL rank, the best times are 2'04" and an average time is 2'10" ...

It's not only my way of driving (It would not be possible for me to do 2'04 but 2'10-2'12 should be possible).
I think something is bad with my install ...!

I also looked on GPL Rank & was shocked to see that 2:04  -  so I'm glad to hear that it's clearly an unrealistic time!  Smiley

You must have installed the 'extra' pack with another corner or two... Smiley
I installed it last night & apart from the Ferrari (which I've decided that I don't get on with);  was getting 2:14-2:16 in the others after a few laps - and I would expect to be somewhat off the pace.    The AI however, were managing 2:06 somehow.

I did notice top speeds for me were around 172-175MPH.  However,  I'm not sure how much of a tow is potentially gained with the 66s?  For example,  I got ~175MPH in the Honda,  but with AI ahead noticed 182MPH (before car then just took off!).

It appears there is not much time to be gained by trying to cut the corners in the twisty section.

Cheers,
Dave.
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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2013, 01:57:26 PM +0100 »


You must have installed the 'extra' pack with another corner or two... Smiley


What do you mean, exactly ? Huh
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« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2013, 02:03:36 PM +0100 »

<with some snipping!>
Here, I cannot do better than 2'19" with the Cooper, Honda or Ferrari and 2'17 with the BT19.
Looking at GPL rank, the best times are 2'04" and an average time is 2'10" ...

It's not only my way of driving (It would not be possible for me to do 2'04 but 2'10-2'12 should be possible).
I think something is bad with my install ...!

I also looked on GPL Rank & was shocked to see that 2:04  -  so I'm glad to hear that it's clearly an unrealistic time!  Smiley

You must have installed the 'extra' pack with another corner or two... Smiley
I installed it last night & apart from the Ferrari (which I've decided that I don't get on with);  was getting 2:14-2:16 in the others after a few laps - and I would expect to be somewhat off the pace.    The AI however, were managing 2:06 somehow.

I did notice top speeds for me were around 172-175MPH.  However,  I'm not sure how much of a tow is potentially gained with the 66s?  For example,  I got ~175MPH in the Honda,  but with AI ahead noticed 182MPH (before car then just took off!).

It appears there is not much time to be gained by trying to cut the corners in the twisty section.

Cheers,
Dave.

Cutting corners is NOT recommended around Bathurst IMHO unless you are very precise, far too many chances to end your race I think?

The draft will be noticeable down the long straights and should give a good few extra MPH/KPH, so gearing for the tow might be wise. Unless of course you intend to rush off into the lead and break your own wind out front??  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2013, 05:04:39 PM +0100 »

Yeah exactly - those 'kerbs' are a little fierce!

Now - running over those too many times (once?!) *would* cause tyre issues for sure...
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« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2013, 05:17:02 PM +0100 »

As a fan of this track, I just registered as a reserve.

I hope there is a slot left tonight for my Ferrari...
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« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2013, 05:42:08 PM +0100 »

Come on guys I suspect some sandbagging here. I just tried the 3L Ferrari, Cooper, Honda and Brabham and sub 2.10 is not that difficult. Okay running around for the entire race at that kind of pace might prove hazardous or terminal for the engine but for sure the podium will be at that pace or faster I suspect.
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« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2013, 07:03:27 PM +0100 »

I am really confused ...

Here, I cannot do better than 2'19" with the Cooper, Honda or Ferrari
...

Maybe you have "Trainer" mode on?
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« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2013, 08:14:23 PM +0100 »

I am really confused ...

Here, I cannot do better than 2'19" with the Cooper, Honda or Ferrari
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Maybe you have "Trainer" mode on?

 oops You're right !
How can I be so stupid after so many GPL years ?

I just done 2'09''69 with the BT19 ...Thanks Dean !
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« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2013, 08:19:39 PM +0100 »

I just done 2'09''69 with the BT19 ...Thanks Dean !

That's more like it; now my PB is where it should be by comparison!
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« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2013, 08:43:11 PM +0100 »

As a fan of this track, I just registered as a reserve.

I think late entries are required to start at the back of the grid?  If unsure, maybe best to ask a Moderator. Wink
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« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2013, 09:43:47 PM +0100 »

Yeah, I should have better...

My shifting paddles went crazy so I had to stop Roll Eyes
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