P&G 3 now out

[Wiltshire Tony]

Is this going to be a late entrant for dullest thread of 2012?

Watch this space folks

[purdie]

Shall we move on to the subtle differences between radials and cross-ply behaviour just to send Tony off to sleep? 

[Paul968]

Thank heaven you were here Tony to drag us back to all those exciting race announcement threads! 

[Wiltshire Tony]

Fair play guys, I deserve it. 

But come on Gents, shouldn't it be about the fun of racing with like minded others in fair facsimile's of cars, around fair facsimile's of tracks. It's the racing, after all, that brings us all together not whether the 2nd flange sprocket on a 1973 blahmobile behaves differently than in real life. Who cares! We all get to drive (mostly) dream cars at speed without any come back if we smash into stuff. We mostly practise a lot and drive considerately and try not to muck up each others evenings on race night. And then we can recap our famous victories/close 2nds/tail end charlie battles in post race post's. But if we lose sight of the Fun part then what's the point?

[Paul968]

Unfortunately for me Tony I can't enjoy the fun unless there is a certain level of 'believability' (is that a word?). I know that it is a sim and not the real thing, but if driving the sim car feels unrealistic to me and I can't drive it the way I would a real car then it just doesn't work. Probably a personal thing, as I know lots of others have a blast with all the old cars and the period feel (which I also like), but there is no point denying it to myself. As I said, I really wanted to like this.

I should also add that this isn't a sim racing snob thing - the last 2 major events I have done in sim racing have been using GTR2 and I had a blast in both.

[Mark J]

Take the porsche 2.5T out for a blast around a track like Dubai national, it has all the classic 911 traits, great fun through the curves  just used it on the GC server (before yet another idiot punted me off  )

[purdie]

Take the porsche 2.5T out for a blast around a track like Dubai national, it has all the classic 911 traits, great fun through the curves  just used it on the GC server (before yet another idiot punted me off  )

That's also why I have partly stuck with the RSR (and last night the CSL) as your up front and generally out of the mid-pack chaos. Bring on the league races!

But if we lose sight of the Fun part then what's the point?

Never said otherwise mate, I drive F1 2012 and Forza for gods sake lol 

[Mark J]

Bit OT sorry, but how do you find Forza Andy? Ive been contemplating buying an xbox for months just to get hold of Forza4. All i have read is positive reviews of it, and watching youtube vids, the physics look pretty realistic as the cars move through corner sequences. Is it worth getting? Plenty of xbox bundle deals to be had around this time of year with xmas approaching. There seems to be a fantastic range of cars for it and the ALMS series used it at every race to showcase a lap around whatever track they were at. I just didnt want to splash out on a console and find out its arcadey. (but will also use it for the odd fifa match and FPS  ).

And yes did start to think a fast car up front would be better in the GC server, too many idiots smashing into you further back, but i am really enjoying driving some of the slower cars. Its odd as i thought only maturer adults would like P&G but there seems to be an element of kiddy thicko must-win driving on their public server. Some are making no attempt to race, just smash into you at corners or rejoin the track at full chat and t-bone others 
The sooner league racing starts the better    I hear that GC and Race2play are intending to run series soon, and hopefully here too.

[purdie]

Yeah the public servers seem to have these guys whether its a nice niche like PnG or people bouncing off the walls all the way round Nords on Race 07 !

Found Forza to be great fun MJ! Physics wise its not as good as, say PnG, with the car a bit light on its feet feeling and therefore quite oversteerey. Overall though great fun with the 911 RSR's from ALMS and the prototypes down to the 250 Testa Rossa race car and DBR1.....

... of course it is the best looking sim ever as well!

[Burtoner]

Didnt realise this was out till I checked out the insidesimracing video on youtube.

I got thing installed in a new PnG folder copying the files from GTR2 folder (from install), Ran the update thing, and when i run it I get lot of hard drive activity but nothing actually happening.

[purdie]

Not sure tbh, I would recommend a PnG only install if you have the disk space

[Burtoner]

Sorted working

1 question I do have which I can't find in options, is that stupid gear suggestion at each corner always in way, where in options is it, or what is it called?

[purdie]

Sorted working

1 question I do have which I can't find in options, is that stupid gear suggestion at each corner always in way, where in options is it, or what is it called?

I think that is actually the corner severity assist, corner markers? i think. You'll see it in options somewhere

[Burtoner]

Sorted working

1 question I do have which I can't find in options, is that stupid gear suggestion at each corner always in way, where in options is it, or what is it called?

I think that is actually the corner severity assist, corner markers? i think. You'll see it in options somewhere

thanks all working even lobby