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October 11, 2013, 10:10:10 PM +0100 - Panchine - UKGPL Season 25 (2013) Friday Trophy
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 7 +3.055
124.649mph
1 19:47.231
125.300mph
10 1:57.544
126.557mph
Goodyear  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Cooper T84 GPL F2 3 +0.283
127.613mph
2 +1.937
125.096mph
10 1:56.398
127.803mph
Dunlop  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Ferrari 166 GPL F2 8 +6.567
121.086mph
3 +2.110
125.078mph
10 1:57.924
126.149mph
Firestone  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Cooper T84 GPL F2 10 4 +1L
125.147mph
9 1:57.790
126.292mph
Dunlop  
Ronniepeterson
 
Cooper T84 GPL F2 1 1:56.288
127.924mph
5 +0.949
125.036mph
9 1:56.549
127.637mph
Dunlop  
DLogan
 
Cooper T84 GPL F2 5 +1.400
126.402mph
6 +5L
123.613mph
5 1:56.961
127.188mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Raoni Frizzo
 Team Coyote
Cooper T84 GPL F2 4 +0.515
127.360mph
7 +8L
116.890mph
2 2:01.203
122.736mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 2 +0.210
127.693mph
8 +14.154
110.733mph
2 2:00.765
123.181mph
Disco
Goodyear  
UKGPL 8
 
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 9 10 DNS ---
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Goodyear  

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On the last lap a group of 4 cars is in close formation and all with a chance of taking 2nd place.
Approaching the end of the main straight section and the sharp right hander David holds 2nd place, Clive in 3rd moves to protect the inside line from the two cars behind who have slipstream advantage.
As a result there are two cars in front of Ronnie who is closing fast. He appears to be trying to use his extra speed from the tow to thread his car out from behind David's and in front of Clive's Ferrari.
This might have been the overtaking move of the race moving him from 4th to 2nd in one move on the last lap.
Unfortunately for Ronnie, David chose that moment to apply his usual early braking technique and what was a gap quickly vanished. As a result Ronnie collected David's right rear wheel and both cars tumbled out of the race.
Whilst I can understand why Ronnie tried the move, he was behind and he did hit an innocent David.
Simple rear end penalty.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Grand Prix Legends
GPL F2
1:56.288
127.924mph
Ronniepeterson
Qualifying
Cooper T84October 11, 2013, 10:10:10 PM +0100
S25Fri
Grand Prix Legends
GPL F2
1:56.398
127.803mph
Cookie
Race
Cooper T84October 11, 2013, 10:10:10 PM +0100
S25Fri
October 11, 2013, 10:58:18 PM +0100 - Panchine - UKGPL Season 25 (2013) Friday Trophy
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 5 +1.500
138.109mph
1 23:41.230
136.100mph
13 1:47.308
138.659mph
Dunlop  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
McLaren M9A F1 1969 3 +1.098
138.626mph
2 +0.140
136.087mph
13 1:46.710
139.436mph
Dunlop  
Raoni Frizzo
 Team Coyote
BRM P126/139 F1 1969 6 +1.514
138.091mph
3 +1.600
135.947mph
13 1:47.120
138.902mph
Dunlop  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 1 1:46.235
140.059mph
4 +3.273
135.787mph
13 1:48.223
137.486mph
Dunlop  
AnGex
 Black Night Racing
McLaren M9A F1 1969 7 +2.086
137.362mph
5 +20.666
134.149mph
13 1:47.922
137.870mph
Dunlop  
Ronniepeterson
 
BRM P126/139 F1 1969 4 +1.159
138.548mph
6 +20.943
134.124mph
13 1:47.748
138.092mph
Dunlop  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 9 +4.119
134.831mph
7 +27.633
133.504mph
13 1:48.336
137.343mph
Dunlop  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
BRM P126/139 F1 1969 2 +0.247
139.734mph
8 +32.731
133.036mph
13 1:46.861
139.239mph
Dunlop  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 8 +2.948
136.277mph
9 +37.878
132.567mph
13 1:48.681
136.907mph
Firestone  
UKGPL 8
 
McLaren M9A F1 1969 10 10 DNS ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

no reported incidents so result stands

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Grand Prix Legends
F1 1969
1:46.235
140.059mph
maddog
Qualifying
Matra MS80 (DFV)October 11, 2013, 10:58:18 PM +0100
S25Fri
Grand Prix Legends
F1 1969
1:46.710
139.436mph
EvilClive
Race
McLaren M9AOctober 11, 2013, 10:58:18 PM +0100
S25Fri
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« on: October 09, 2013, 10:13:22 AM +0100 »

Season 25 Friday Trophy - Rounds 21 & 22 - Panchine

Welcome to the next round for the Friday Trophy this time at Panchine. A very convincing fantasy track imagined to be in North Italy. Fast, sweeping circuit with traps for the unwary. There are a couple of jumps, a tricky turn or two and very sticky hedges, so be careful. It is a relatively long circuit so space should open up, but slipstreaming might be crucial whether you are in front or behind.

This should be a track where the handicap for the Lights gives the Heavies a real chance to get amongst the podium slots with their faster cars. Keeping mistakes to a minimum and using the extra pace on the long straights might cause some problems for the Lights.


This round is for the F2s and 69X.

                                Heavies                                     Lights
Cars for F2            Brab BT23 and Lotus 48,               Cooper and Ferrari
Cars for 69X          Lotus 49b and Matra MS80        Mclaren M9A and BRM P126/139



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Date11-10-2013
Race timeRace 1 starts at 21:05 UK time
Qualifying timeminimum 15 minutes, starting no later than 20:45 UK time
TrackPanchine
ModF2 and 69x
Damage modelINT (Each driver is allowed a single Shift-R with no stop and go required)
Race length10 laps (F2) and 13 laps (69x)
Red Zonefrom the START line to the exit of the end of main straight
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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2013, 02:18:12 PM +0100 »

Could probably be necessary to delay the start of the races of half an hour! I don't think a race with only 5 participants might mean something ! Embarrassed

It's the only chance some of us get!

I propose to start Race 1 at 21:30 UK time  Wink
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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2013, 02:41:10 PM +0100 »

I have no problem with a later start, if that is what the majority would like. It does of course mean that the 2nd race will finish later?

Maybe all those who race in the Friday can post their preference here and we can see what will be the most popular.??

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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2013, 05:17:25 PM +0100 »

This does not work for me as I find even 9.00pm a problem sometimes with having to get up for work early, including most Saturdays.

This has been an incredibly fun series thus far, so I would hope to at least make Race 1, if people do want to race later.

I hope we stick with the early starts or even earlier!!! But accept we should go with the majority decision.

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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2013, 08:43:11 AM +0100 »

I suggest that until we get enough members expressing a definite preference about starting times we should keep things as they are and start at the time posted on the race announcement.

If we change the time for this Friday (only 48 hrs away) without a real consensus view and an official announcement, we will have confusion and chaos.

So the Friday Trophy Race for Friday 11th Oct will start at the normal time

If you would prefer that future Friday Trophy Races to start earlier OR later please post on this thread and if there is a definite majority who would like to see a change we will implement it.
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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2013, 10:39:57 AM +0100 »

If possible I would like to start the race five minutes before everyone else as this will make a significant improvement to my results. If that doesn't really work then I'm quite happy with the existing start (08.45 Quallification Race 1) - any earlier does start to cause problems at home.
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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2013, 06:32:09 PM +0100 »

I often keep my server open for training during the week but...it doesn't seem someone have any interest to test his performances publicly.
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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2013, 07:26:59 PM +0100 »

  I might need some practice this evening..............I suspect that this track will make it very hard work for the Lights!!!

Anyone got a benchmark time for the F2's and 69x's???

I am not even looking at the GT's and Can Ams for next week yet, the speed difference could be a real headache!! lol
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« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2013, 07:40:11 PM +0100 »

OOPS...I forgot to give an important information, I don't have neither mod 69 nor mod F2 installed !
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« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2013, 09:19:04 PM +0100 »

lol... no problem Sergio, I am sure that I can practice off line and be just as bad !!  Grin
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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2013, 09:34:07 PM +0100 »

Unimpressed with race 1, let me tell ya.  Huh  Angry
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« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2013, 10:25:00 PM +0100 »

Unimpressed with race 1, let me tell ya.  Huh  Angry

SORRY Dean!
Of course my fault, but with a little more space left and working together we would have caught the front runners easy..
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« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2013, 11:13:19 PM +0100 »

Race 1 - really pleased with how the Brabham was working - almost had pole until Ronnie nicked it at the end. My non-familiarity with the sharp end of the grid really showed on lap 2 when there looked like a chance to draft Cookie & Ronnie and take the lead with a masterstroke move. Only problem was I hadn't anticipated Ronnie's turn in & it ended in disaster. Big sorry to Ronnie & whoever got tangled up in the aftermath. Rest assured a lesson has been learned. Appears my error allowed team mate Dave C to nip through & hold out for a win. Not intended but I reckon you owe me a pint Dave.
69X I am less adept with. Started almost last, blew an engine & finished last. Well done to Dave Rainier - two wins out of two for Black Night.
Should be back for the next Open wheeler race - great series, shame we don't get a few more starters.
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« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2013, 09:30:23 AM +0100 »

Just compare...



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« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2013, 10:35:55 AM +0100 »

Lets get the bad out of the way first. Sorry Dave R for the punt up the back in Race 1.

Despite this and a few other entertaining bumps and scrapes along the way these were two really enjoyable races. I almost feel sorry for anyone not able to participate on Fridays. For me they are missing the best series this season by a country mile. It caters for all, from the championship hungry challengers and those just after a quick fix of close racing. I'm getting like a scratched record but thanks again to the organisers.

Grats to the podiums in both races.

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