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  • S2567F2 Westwood Park: October 13, 2013
October 13, 2013, 09:36:24 PM +0100 - Westwood Park - UKGPL Season 25 (2013) Formula 2 Trophy
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 1 1:05.499
98.957mph
1 38:48.296
97.434mph
35 1:05.519
98.927mph
Goodyear  
Samb
 Black Night Racing
Matra MS7 GPL F2 2 +0.042
98.893mph
2 +12.172
96.927mph
35 1:05.588
98.822mph
Dunlop  
Ronniepeterson
 
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 3 +0.450
98.281mph
3 +24.831
96.406mph
35 1:06.058
98.119mph
Goodyear  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Matra MS7 GPL F2 9 +1.085
97.344mph
4 +34.027
96.030mph
35 1:06.434
97.564mph
Dunlop  
natan5
 NVRacing
McLaren M4A GPL F2 7 +0.936
97.563mph
5 +49.208
95.417mph
35 1:06.423
97.580mph
Goodyear  
DLogan
 
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 4 +0.840
97.704mph
6 +1L
94.632mph
34 1:06.033
98.156mph
Goodyear  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Matra MS7 GPL F2 11 +1.517
96.717mph
7 +10.041
94.226mph
34 1:06.707
97.165mph
Dunlop  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Cooper T84 GPL F2 15 +2.818
94.875mph
8 +28.787
93.477mph
34 1:07.426
96.129mph
Dunlop  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 12 +1.647
96.529mph
9 +29.848
93.435mph
34 1:07.208
96.440mph
Goodyear  
Dean_0
 
Matra MS5 GPL F2 10 +1.278
97.063mph
10 (+2) +34.755
93.241mph
34 1:06.146
97.989mph
Dunlop  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 18 +3.548
93.872mph
11 +2L
90.252mph
33 1:08.266
94.946mph
Goodyear  
Marco Mercaldo
 Squadra Padova Corse
Lotus 48 GPL F2 13 +1.987
96.043mph
12 +13.954
89.724mph
33 1:07.774
95.635mph
Firestone  
Arf Arf Arf
 Team Baarf
Matra MS7 GPL F2 14 +2.356
95.521mph
13 +3L
89.417mph
32 1:07.258
96.369mph
Dunlop  
Nigel Smith
 Blue Moose Racing
Matra MS7 GPL F2 16 +3.374
94.109mph
14 +15.523
88.823mph
32 1:07.591
95.894mph
Dunlop  
IvanStanchev
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Lola T100 (FVA) GPL F2 6 +0.923
97.582mph
15 +11L
94.252mph
24 1:06.478
97.499mph
Disco
Firestone  
BadBlood
 Blue Moose Racing
Lotus 48 GPL F2 19 +5.020
91.912mph
16 (+1) +25L
81.968mph
10 1:10.837
91.500mph
accident
Firestone  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Matra MS7 GPL F2 5 +0.879
97.646mph
17 +31L
94.689mph
4 1:06.909
96.871mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Raoni Frizzo
 Team Coyote
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 8 +0.981
97.496mph
18 +32L
84.511mph
3 1:10.660
91.729mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 17 +3.402
94.071mph
19 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 20 20 ---
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Goodyear  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 0h00m57s

Dean_0 gets sideways under braking into the Carousel. Arf gets caught out but does Dean a favour bumping back on a straight line. Racing Incident


Server replay time: 0h01m40s

Dean_0 returns a favour to Arf, with interest by running into the back of him on the approach to the hair pin. Arf's brake point seemed reasonable. The rejoins are rather untidy but not requiring of any punishment.

  • Dean_0 (Dean-0-F2)penalty — Rear end shunt - plus 1 place for lap 1 — 2 places lost


Server replay time: 0h06m19s

Marco runs wide onto the grass. He does however appear to be back to near racing pace when Badblood, sensing the chance to overtake or not sensing the place to brake, runs into the back of him.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Grand Prix Legends
GPL F2
1:05.499
98.957mph
EvilClive
Qualifying
Brabham BT23October 13, 2013, 09:36:24 PM +0100
S2567F2
Grand Prix Legends
GPL F2
1:05.519
98.927mph
EvilClive
Race
Brabham BT23October 13, 2013, 09:36:24 PM +0100
S2567F2
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« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2013, 08:16:55 AM +0100 »

Very hard first race for me. As I'm new to GPL i'm very slow at the starting line so that was my first concern. Did it well but with so many people around got little confused and went off road with no bad consequences. Then gained several positions managed to go 5th and closed the gap between me and the 4th. Then bad thing happened Cheesy Met Paul's right tyre while he was trying to get on track and crashed. My suspencion was broken but not a very big problem. Lost one postiton and started following Natan. After several laps i was back to 5th. Made some good laps and then late braking and crash into the wall. Sorry Natan for being hit by me flying after the crash. Grats to all finished!
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« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2013, 09:56:07 AM +0100 »

Then bad thing happened Cheesy Met Paul's right tyre while he was trying to get on track and crashed.

Actually it was worse than that. I was trying NOT to get on track and just couldn't stay straight on the grass. Sorry Ivan.
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« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2013, 04:08:37 PM +0100 »

Another interesting and frustrating night.

I made a great start off the line and made up 3 or 4 places, only to see Dean move at right angle to the first right hander and I T-boned him. Happily, neither of us seemed to be harmed and I got away ahead of him. Sadly he got his braking wrong at the end of the back straight and he went into the back of me. He sent me off and I think this caused some interesting lines through the corner. In particular it meant that BadBlood had to change his line through the corner, and as he had no idea I was there, clipped my car and sent me into a spin. I ended up back on the track, facing the wrong way and Dean had no way way to miss me. That sent him off the track... well..if someone had to suffer I can't think of anyone more deserving Mr D :-)

Then on Lap 12, I was passing Dave C over Deer's Leap. The corner has a bit of a kink as you go over the summit which means anyone of the left tends to wander into the right hand side, and that's exactly what Dave did. That left me having to go over the grass to avoid a contact...but also meant controlled braking for the corner was impossible and I span. I checked no-one was coming, rejoined the circuit...and took Ronnie out as he was lapping me. Looking at the race replay it appears you warped at that moment Ronnie, so that was why I didn't know you were there......sorry anyway.

Then Lap 27....Phil, I knew you would get me at Deers Leap, and I didn't want the kink causing me to run into you, so I deliberately stayed right. Whilst I agree it looks like warp took me out, I think it was the kink that brought you over so close to me... no worries anyway.

On Lap 30, I watched Nigel do an epic spin in front of me, which took in both sides of the back straight - still not sure how he missed me. That was all for the race....but there's more.

I knew I'd been lapped during the race, but it was only twice, not the three the race results state. On the race server I am about 50m from the flag when my car disappears. At the time, I passed the flag and slowed down at the side of the road. I don't think it changes anything re the results, so I'm not sure any action is worthwhile, but would be interested to know what happened?

Cheers

Arf

p.s. re sudden popularity of the race. I for one have been away for a month else I'd have been at the previous races.
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« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2013, 04:50:45 PM +0100 »

I checked no-one was coming, rejoined the circuit...and took Ronnie out as he was lapping me. Looking at the race replay it appears you warped at that moment Ronnie, so that was why I didn't know you were there......sorry anyway.

No problem Arf. On my replay you just appear out of nowhere, so there was not a lot either of us could do. Maybe related to my connection last night but did anyone else have any issues with sound during the latter part of qualifying and the race? Even though I disconnected and rejoined during qualifying the sound of my car was screwed and decidedly monotone regardless of gear or speed.

As for the race, lucky to inherit second when Sam spun early on but unlucky to hand it back when me and Arf simultaneously used our cloaking devices. Great turnout and on a short lap relatively narrow circuit kept it entertaining throughout. Apologies if any lapping moves caused people to lose any time. For certain I made a right pigs ear of a pass on Marco, sorry.

Grats again to Clive and Sam. See you all at the next one I hope.
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« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2013, 05:13:23 PM +0100 »

I didn't notice any sound issues Ronnie.

Warp, yes, I did notice a few instances when the red bars went crazy. Generally the connection seemed OK, proving my long held belief that (as a laptop user using GPL Power Monger) there isn't any disbenefit to using a laptop..... I must admit though, that I'm still jetlagged from holiday, and whilst I did put a cable into the laptop (I usually race on a wired connection), I forgot to put the other end into the router.......
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« Reply #20 on: October 14, 2013, 09:00:36 PM +0100 »

I was little late in joining the server for this race..........decorating duties  Undecided.
But I was not too late to witness Sam stick in a blistering lap with a 1:05!!! Ronnie was not far behind and Dean looked menacing as well as Axel. Geeeez this was going to be a fast race if those times were anything to go by. Especially on this track where there are only about 1.5 passing places.

I did my customary laps on race fuel to get dialled in to the track and managed to temporarily get a place on the 2nd row,.............hmmmm with 15 minutes to go that looked unlikely to survive given the pace of those around me. So, I confess that this time I dumped a couple of galls of fuel in an attempt to improve my qually position.

 It did not work lol!!  Undecided and I made only a marginal improvement.  Undecided

So I decided instead to go back to race fuel and concentrate on maximising my pace for the early laps with cold tyres and a heavy car. I was gobsmacked when I looked at Prib 10 minutes later to see yours truly on pole, but only by a couple of hundredths of a second. "That surely would be beaten in the last few minutes" I thought.
 
But the time stayed there as I nervously watched the last few cars complete qually. Woohoo what a lucky stroke!!  Now all I had to do was nail some fast laps on cold tyres, break the tow to Sam, build a gap between myself and about 6 others who had posted qually times within tenths of what I had fluked. yeah right lol!!! 

With the F2 slipstream and Sam in a super quick Matra what was there to worry about eh??? I nailed the gas off the line and made T1 first hugging the inside line.
T2 was Ok and I got a fast exit and committed as much as I dared on cold tyres to that tricky T3 leading onto the back straight, using all of the track and as much welly as the tyres would take.......but still Sam was within slipstream range.??!!!?? .
If I gave him an opening he would be past like a shot, so I move to the right very early....if he wanted to pass me it would have to be the looong way around the hairpin at the end of the straight.
Somewhere I pulled a few more metres out and by the second lap had just enough lead to be safe from the slipstream...he could close the gap but not enough to attempt a pass  Roll Eyes But the pace was insane!!! I was right on the very edge of what I could control and there were a few moments when sphincter flutter almost got the better of me  Shocked.

Then Sam was gone from 2nd but Ronnie had taken up the challenge, geez I must have wicked somewhere cos I was getting no rest!!! I pressed on concentrating on getting my braking points right for the critical corners and making clean exits....when I say clean, what I really mean is only 2 or 3 wheels on the grass and armfuls of opp lock.!!!

I think Ronnie eventually had a "moment" and I suddenly had a small cushion that allowed me to relax just slightly, which actually produced some better lap times by a few tenths and I was able to ease the gap out.
It was lucky that I had such a large gap with 10 laps to go because that early pace where I maxed out each and every gear change had consumed far more fuel than I had anticipated and I spent those last laps short shifting and coasting into corners, whilst watching the gap back to second and praying that it stayed big enough to allow me to creep home....unlike Edmonton!!!

Grats to Sam and Ronnie and all the finishers. Also thanks to those drivers I had to lap, who allowed me a safe passage as soon as they were able. It is not an easy track to move off line on and I appreciated the fact that they kept a steady line and did not panic. I did not want the added pressure of guessing what a car in front was going to do.  Wink Wink

Looks like Ronnie and myself might have shot ourselves in the foot by scoring too many points too soon............we are both +30 over the next guy................oops!
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« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2013, 05:41:48 PM +0100 »

Looks like Ronnie and myself might have shot ourselves in the foot by scoring too many points too soon............we are both +30 over the next guy................oops!

I had not noticed but thanks for pointing it out. Now I understand why you have been torturing yourself in that Ferrari on Fridays,  laugh laugh laugh
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« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2013, 05:03:10 PM +0100 »

Billy can you confirm what handicap cars are to be used?
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« Reply #23 on: October 27, 2013, 11:57:40 PM +0000 »

Billy can you confirm what handicap cars are to be used?
Thanks for the reminder Ronnie! It is about time to introduce the handicaps. You & Evil will be restricted to the Cooper (or Ferrari or BT14 if you are feeling adventurous). Sam can have either Lotus or either Lola. As there are fewer entrants than expected 4th & 5th places in the table are not handicapped.
No handicaps for the Heavy division - again down to low turnouts.
I hope the slight re-interpretation of the rules is OK for all.

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« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2013, 04:00:22 PM +0000 »

Thanks again Billy.
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« Reply #25 on: October 31, 2013, 11:20:11 PM +0000 »

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