UKPnG Season 8 Enduro Cup - Jerez - Nov 21

[Burtoner]

I keep getting booted for possible cheat, any ideas why?

Got track, any skin or car updates?

Do you have version 3.1 installed Burt?

Ah, don't think so only 3.0, if I run the updater "error downloading new script file", and if I go to P&G website, I dont see any updates?

[Mogget]

The Mini should be nowhere near as quick as the others??

[Clive Loynes]

I keep getting booted for possible cheat, any ideas why?

Got track, any skin or car updates?

Do you have version 3.1 installed Burt?

Ah, don't think so only 3.0, if I run the updater "error downloading new script file", and if I go to P&G website, I dont see any updates?

Matt is a busy chap and hasn't gone back through the older race notifications but the Snetterton race said this:-
(3) You will need to install Power and Glory v3.1 from: http://www.gtlw.co.uk/

[Clive Loynes]

The Mini should be nowhere near as quick as the others??

That's probably why I haven't gone anywhere near it.  

I don't have a time from anyone else either.  Just use it to get the shopping in.  

EDIT:   Ooops!  Just found an earlier email from the SBRC Development Team.  Yes Chris, the Mini looks to be about 3 seconds off the pace.  We could make it obligatory for Italians and Kerbies!   

[Geoffers]

  We could make it obligatory for Italians and Kerbies!   

We could forget the rest of the cars & make it obligatory for everyone. 

[Clive Loynes]

  We could make it obligatory for Italians and Kerbies!   

We could forget the rest of the cars & make it obligatory for everyone. 

EEEEK!   

Anything but that!

[Mark J]

Hmm, Jerez is a bit....flat and disappointing  .  Tried two different cars and got same lap times in each so that's a good thing so far, but only 6 laps in each. 2:08's so far with 20mins fuel onboard. Hope to try another car or two before Thursday, if I'm lucky! 

[Burtoner]

all working, tricky track, blind corners and hairpins :O

[phspok]

We did a race here last year? it was very good, as this will be IMHO
It doesn't have any hills it's true, but then most of the English
tracks are old flat airfields and we seem to have fun at those.
This is a fun and challenging track when you learn it, and are
on the limit with someone chasing you.
As I have said before I don't give a flying fish about how much fun it is
to hot lap, all I care about is a good race.  so there

[Mark J]

it hasn't got the historical aura that the British tracks have!

Still, looks like it will be more fun for the actual race and the endurance element should spice it up a little (I take it you tested pitstops?) but that does rely on a variety of cars being used with their different strengths and weaknesses. I strongly suspect it will be the usual Alfa-fest 
Looks good fun on an onboard and proves the track designer did a good job on it as I recognised every corner    (couldn't find any historical non-f1 footage).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0ckPllPHCo

enjoy 

an idea for one of the series next season should be a 'fixed chosen car' for the season then a nice mix of fast then twisty circuits to stop any one car having a distinct advantage. Seems the only way to stop the eternal sim racing bane of everyone jumping in the best car for a particular circuit. That or penalty points of some sort. Legzy tokens ! 

[Geoffers]

an idea for one of the series next season should be a 'fixed chosen car' for the season then a nice mix of fast then twisty circuits to stop any one car having a distinct advantage. Seems the only way to stop the eternal sim racing bane of everyone jumping in the best car for a particular circuit. That or penalty points of some sort. Legzy tokens ! 

Or for a 12 race series have a list of say 6 cars & you can only drive each of them twice (similar to Tony runs in GTL).

[phspok]

I said before that I liked stuff that Tony and Legzy had done - Legzy Dollars/Tony's limited number of wives drives etc
It doesn't sound like much effort I suppose, but I am more likely to go for something with no added spreadsheets/admin
like 2 speeds of cars, not too much different with "Top 3 in the Championship have to drive one of the slightly slower cars"
I like the choose your car for the series idea, That might just get a field full of RSR3.0s? dunno, might be worth a try.

[Clive Loynes]

I think that this season has been very successful and that you should just repeat the whole thing.

Might get it right this time  and there would be a benchmark for everyone with respect to their past performance.

[Mark J]

I also agree with what Clive says there, but do wonder if it was only so successful when there were just one or two aliens and they sportingly chose to drive less competitive cars to close the field ( and still win!). But just recently we seem to have been invaded by euro aliens taking the best cars and stealing all the points!  Not saying that as a negative against them just that it affects the grid balance that we enjoyed earlier on.

Not so keen on a 2 car use limit as it stops genuine enthusiasts of certain cars driving their fave steeds.

[phspok]

Yes   I was wondering why I "need" to change much, I think apart from the odd car/track choice issues these series have been
a lot of fun and most people have found them enjoyable, there is always something that could be done better/different
Something that adds a little spice, and some fine tuning can always be done.
All inputs have been welcome, and some variant of them will likely find their way into at least one of next year's series.
I would like to do a re run of the Aussie series, or maybe a "Colonies" series   US/Canada/Aussie/NZ/SA
Like the Americans have "World Series" that are not.   There will probably be another UK HIstoric series, after all this
is UK P&G, there will be something with V8s in it, possibly the US/Aussie series , some SPorts car theme using the
bigger faster tracks, probably a very occasional enduro event in one or more of the series to mix it up a bit
Maybe some form of handicapping in one of the series, probably a Spec race series, and a GT series
Though two of the series might get alternate weeks again.
The cauldron is still cooking

Mj has a point, but I get beat anyway so I am not going to complain if we get lots of hot shoes to give John a battle.
One fast driver is no different to another for me
Some of the Italians will likely return to their own series early next year when it gets going again.
I hope that others -Fast Eastern Euros for example stick around long term. It is nice when any of the old hands get to the
podium, heck I even won the odd event in the past, but I am reluctant to overly handicap to make it happen.