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May 26, 2014, 08:42:03 PM +0100 - Monaco (1997-2002) - UKGTL Season 14 Motorsport World Cup
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Dimetrio
 
Nissan Skyline 2000 GT-R (#20) GTC-TC-76 1 1:50.608
67.409mph
1 48:55.216
66.044mph
26 1:51.827
66.674mph
Dunlop  
Erling G-P
 TEAM-GTLDK
Austin Mini Cooper S KAD Works (#39) GTC-TC-76 3 +0.361
67.190mph
2 +26.159
65.461mph
26 1:52.112
66.505mph
Avon  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Austin Mini Cooper S KAD Works (#0) GTC-TC-76 4 +0.950
66.835mph
3 +2L
60.630mph
24 1:52.989
65.988mph
Avon  
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
Ford Escort RS (#23) GTC-TC-76 9 +13.419
60.116mph
4 +49.727
59.625mph
24 2:01.718
61.256mph
Dunlop  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Ford Escort RS (#114) GTC-TC-76 8 +12.394
60.617mph
5 +1:15.758
59.112mph
24 2:01.075
61.581mph
Dunlop  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Austin Mini Cooper S KAD Works (#0) GTC-TC-76 2 +0.083
67.358mph
6 +8L 18 1:51.887
66.638mph
unknown
Avon  
Tibernius
 Prodigy Racing
Austin Mini Cooper S KAD Works (#1) GTC-TC-76 5 +3.020
65.617mph
7 +15L 11 1:53.091
65.929mph
unknown
Avon  
SpecialKS
 TEAM-GTLDK
Austin Mini Cooper S KAD Works (#0) GTC-TC-76 6 +3.029
65.612mph
8 +17L 9 1:58.311
63.020mph
unknown
Avon  
BillThomas
 Kerb Crawlers
Opel Commodore (#75) GTC-TC-76 10 +18.022
57.964mph
9 +22L 4 2:08.350
58.091mph
suspension
Avon  
SortedGeeza
 
Ford Escort RS (#50) GTC-TC-76 7 +8.323
62.691mph
+26L 0 ---
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DQ
Dunlop  
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GT Legends
GTC-TC-76
1:50.608
67.409mph
Dimetrio
Qualifying
Nissan Skyline 2000 GT-RMay 26, 2014, 08:42:03 PM +0100
L14MWC
GT Legends
GTC-TC-76
1:51.827
66.674mph
Dimetrio
Race
Nissan Skyline 2000 GT-RMay 26, 2014, 08:42:03 PM +0100
L14MWC
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« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2014, 10:23:51 PM +0100 »

Hello to all GTL-ers!
My name is Dmytro. I'm from Ukraine. I'm about 3,5 years in simracing now. I started my simracing way with GT Legends sim at RaceDepartment.
Besides, I had some racing experience with Race 07, rFactor and GTR2/PnG (very little) mod and iR (very little).

For now my main sim which I use in common is rFactor and GTL (when I can found nice company and cars).
Today, 80% of my racing time I have with rFactor Endurance series mod and some with HistorX mod. I like and primarly take part in enduro races (from 1,5 hour to 24 hours races with driver changes).

After that sad moment when RaceDepartment guys stopped to hold RD GTL league I had to change my priorities mainly to rF.
But I still love good old GTL and want to take part at least in some races where there is good company of gentleman racers. I like your championship format (pretty similar to RD) and, I must note, that I like your car choise.
Fact is that primarly I like GTL TC'65 and less powerfull GTC'65 and '76 cars. But I see that people mostly like some "powerfull icon battles" between GT40, Cobra's, Pantera's and etc. I noticed, that more often, people take more fast cars but can't even handle slowest (in my concept of "handle").  Roll Eyes

And now, when it's hard to find a good championship on GTL sim, but it's more hard to find a competition between more... mundane cars. So, with some help word of Ross Hawkey from RaceConnect I've found UKGTL and I want to try to race alongside you, guys.

Speaking specifically about this champ, I know a bit Nissan GTR and I want to take it for the the first race. I've never raced at Monaco (as at least a half of other tracks in calendar) and this track is quite specific and demanding for such debut. But I'll try to do my best not to ruin Monte Carlo. Grin angel

P.S. do I need to do something else to register for this race in case I missed some guides?
P.P.S. sorry for my poor English.

Hi Dimetrio, sorry for the late reply but your post missed my attention. Your going to love it here. We supply what RD sadly doesn't anymore. I also was fed up with their endless stream of non-league racing. Perhaps we met on track sometime in the past?

Please try to join our practise server on the Simbin lobby as we prefer to sort out problems before race night ok?

Hope to see you on Monday. BTW we are currently in our Season 14 so our races are prefixed with the code L14.

Here is our full list of series for this year. Hope you like? https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=412&theme=5

Cheers

Tony
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« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2014, 10:29:20 PM +0100 »

This will be my last appearance before I leave for my holidays  Grin

Instantly hope to see the finish line  Roll Eyes
Have a great vacation Kurt  punk
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« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2014, 11:55:45 AM +0100 »

And just to add another name to the list...since my uni course has finished for the year, if all goes well with setting up GTL this will be my first race back! Grin

Normally I'd just pick the MINI, but since it's apparently been 2 years since I last raced I think I'd better have a try with all of them...

Nice to see you back Tibs. Grin Expect you already know that the KAD Mini is a different beast to the standard 1275 and the link to Geoffers setup is a good starting point for your setup. thumbup1 rockon
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« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2014, 12:05:21 PM +0100 »

Hi Tibs, sorry saw your post but forgot to reply. Anyway, welcome home.
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« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2014, 12:18:03 PM +0100 »

Thanks for the welcome, i have been practising on the server, getting used to manual pitting and using the speed limiter  angel im usually an escort addict (see profile sig, yeah dat's me!), but i was also liking the bmw 2002 very cool slidy little beast, and just added the Realmod and update 1.3 (found on these very forums)

Q: Will the password be different on race night from "*********" and ive read as much as my brain will allow me to retain r.e rules and race etiquette, but wondered is there any special rules like on real race tracks, i.e - "overtaking only on the left/right?"  Embarrassed

cant wait for monday night ! Grin

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"offtopic" i would like to know at this point is why nobody can ever join a GTL server i personally make, nor does it show the ping, but i can been seen online oddly (me and a mate wanted a practise server to add all the tracks and cars that weve missed over the years, so we can check em out & get used to them) :'(
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« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2014, 01:20:35 PM +0100 »

but forgot to reply.

Thanks Tony jogged my memory of something I had to do  Wink - done.  thumbup2
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« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2014, 01:35:28 PM +0100 »

Thanks for the welcome, i have been practising on the server, getting used to manual pitting and using the speed limiter  angel im usually an escort addict (see profile sig, yeah dat's me!), but i was also liking the bmw 2002 very cool slidy little beast, and just added the Realmod and update 1.3 (found on these very forums)

Q: Will the password be different on race night from "*********" and ive read as much as my brain will allow me to retain r.e rules and race etiquette, but wondered is there any special rules like on real race tracks, i.e - "overtaking only on the left/right?"  Embarrassed

cant wait for monday night ! Grin

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Several points to comment on here............

Good that your practising the pit-in, pit out procedure. Many don't and suffer for it in the race. But there should be no need to pit in this event. If an event requires a mandatory pit stop it will definitely be mentioned in the race announcement.

You don't need the real mod or update for any series this year. Again if required it will be in the race announcement. Real Mod and other mods/standard cars don't get on well together and will crash the server!

Yes we use a different password on race night. Read the race announcement. You can click on pale/different colour text.

No special rules as such. But good etiquette is chat in praccy, minimum chat in qually and no chat in races except for the odd "sorry", "Thank you" "Pit in" etc. Also gentlemen drivers will wait for their victim to rejoin and pass if a collision occurs due to your bad driving. Or if it's a bad spot to wait/go slow then take a voluntary drive thru within three laps of the incident occuring ( don't forget limiter on at pit lane start). No persistant bad language. Let lappers by. Don't block a hot lapper when you pull out of the pit lane. Think that's it  Wink

BTW your off topic question stands way more chance of being answered if you create a new thread for it, e.g in Chit Chat. More people will look at it there. I'll set the first post up for you. https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=12399.msg223067#msg223067
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« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2014, 06:52:23 PM +0100 »

This will be my last appearance before I leave for my holidays  Grin

Pleadingly Instantly hope to see the finish line  Roll Eyes
Have a great vacation Kurt  punk

Thanks Tony - will be online from time to time to follow activities here.

BTW - sorry for my - sometimes - really bad english  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2014, 12:07:06 PM +0100 »

Just tried some offline practice around this track  Grin. Great fun and a real challenge to hook up a good lap and not rip 3 wheels off.

I would expect the mini to be very strong here, but my first attempts made the Commodore just as quick !!!!  I cannot believe those results!! so another session is planned before Monday!!! I confess that I have avoided the mini thus far in these races simply because I have not mastered the different technique that it seems to need....now might be the time to put some effort in Huh lol  Roll Eyes


I tried the "Geoffers' " Mini setup and maybe I have 2 left feet and 6 arms, but I cannot control the little buzz box with those settings.

It seems that with the Mingy it is advisable to always keep some pressure on the gas pedal even under braking? , just to keep everything pointing in the right direction?

Is there a database with circuits/cars/laptimes for GTL where I can see what the best laps are  and set myself a target. I don't expect to match any World Records, but if I am 60 seconds off the pace at least I will know that I am doing it wrong somewhere!!  Undecided
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« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2014, 01:04:49 PM +0100 »

Just tried some offline practice around this track  Grin. Great fun and a real challenge to hook up a good lap and not rip 3 wheels off.

I would expect the mini to be very strong here, but my first attempts made the Commodore just as quick !!!!  I cannot believe those results!! so another session is planned before Monday!!! I confess that I have avoided the mini thus far in these races simply because I have not mastered the different technique that it seems to need....now might be the time to put some effort in Huh lol  Roll Eyes


I tried the "Geoffers' " Mini setup and maybe I have 2 left feet and 6 arms, but I cannot control the little buzz box with those settings.

It seems that with the Mingy it is advisable to always keep some pressure on the gas pedal even under braking? , just to keep everything pointing in the right direction?

Is there a database with circuits/cars/laptimes for GTL where I can see what the best laps are  and set myself a target. I don't expect to match any World Records, but if I am 60 seconds off the pace at least I will know that I am doing it wrong somewhere!!  Undecided

I like the Geoffers setup a lot. I just can't control the beast with the default. I find brake before turn whilst down shifting then throttle thru and out works best for me.

There used to be a GTL hotlap comparison site but I've forgotten what it was called and it may not even exist anymore. I'll have a browse for it. Meanwhile this site has something similar but not all our cars are included e.g. the KAD mini, so it's only of minimum use. http://www.altbierbude.de/component/option,com_gtlreporter/Itemid,53/lang,en/

EDIT: This is the site I was thinking off. http://gtl.gplrank.info/mchForm

EDIT: Doesn't have mod cars  Angry
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« Reply #25 on: May 24, 2014, 01:22:54 PM +0100 »

I tried the "Geoffers' " Mini setup and maybe I have 2 left feet and 6 arms, but I cannot control the little buzz box with those settings.

It seems that with the Mingy it is advisable to always keep some pressure on the gas pedal even under braking? , just to keep everything pointing in the right direction?

With FWD cars you need to make sure the throttle and brakes don't overlap under most circumstances; if they do, it acts as a handbrake as the front wheels are still being driven while the rears are locked. Better to brake - turn - accelerate separately until you're used to the limits of the car. You also have the ability to "drag" the car around corners, as the car will accelerate in whichever direction the front wheels are pointing, not the rears.

I'm using Geoffers' setup as well, with a couple of modifications - 2 clicks more Rear ARB, slightly tweaked Brake Bias (I think I moved it back about 3, since the front wheels were locking with the default) and shorter gearing so I'm just hitting the red line in 4th at the braking point after the tunnel.
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« Reply #26 on: May 24, 2014, 01:35:15 PM +0100 »

While I remember: I was doing some laps on the server yesterday and there are two points that you can, in the Mini at least, go 4 wheels off the track without it warning you. Those being turns 13/14 (Piscine) and turn 19 (the left hand part of Anthony Noghes). You don't really gain anything from it (I was actually slower having cut Piscine), but it's possible to do without noticing - the bumps on the inside of Piscine are too far away from the track for the Mini to hit and the the same with the wall on Anthony Noghes. So, careful if you're pushing hard.
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« Reply #27 on: May 24, 2014, 06:01:04 PM +0100 »

Thanks for the tips on Mini taming guys, but what would be a good benchmark time for it around Monaco??

Assuming that the Mini is THE car to use here ( although I am tempted by the absurdity of using the Commodore as no-one would be able to get past me if I can get it onto pole lol!) and would anyone be prepared to hazard a guess about the pole lap time??
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« Reply #28 on: May 25, 2014, 11:14:13 AM +0100 »

Like Clive I've decided on the Commodore as my quickest car around here - little Mini wheels means I get wrecked more in the Mini.  Roll Eyes rockon

My best lap here is 2:11 for what it's worth but I'm no benchmark driver.  Grin
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« Reply #29 on: May 25, 2014, 07:11:48 PM +0100 »

Can anyone offer any advice on how to get off the line in the Mini (on autoclutch) ?

No matter what I try, it's either wheelspin and/or bog down. In a quickrace, I'm being passed by a Mini starting from 3 rows behind me, so unless the AI is cheating, there's obviously a much quicker way to do it.

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