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December 06, 2013, 10:10:50 PM +0000 - Brands Hatch (GP) - UKGPL Season 25 (2013) Friday Trophy
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Mirage M1 GT 1967 2 +0.004
98.169mph
1 24:49.785
96.000mph
15 1:38.142
97.151mph
Firestone  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Porsche 910 GT 1967 5 +1.644
96.539mph
2 +0.733
95.952mph
15 1:38.130
97.163mph
Dunlop  
Mark Jones
 
Mirage M1 GT 1967 1 1:37.120
98.173mph
3 +11.887
95.240mph
15 1:37.905
97.386mph
Firestone  
Ronniepeterson
 
Mirage M1 GT 1967 3 +0.836
97.335mph
4 +14.584
95.069mph
15 1:37.550
97.741mph
Firestone  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Chaparral Mk2F GT 1967 4 +1.137
97.037mph
5 +26.710
94.309mph
15 1:38.391
96.905mph
Firestone  
DLogan
 
Mirage M1 GT 1967 6 +1.660
96.524mph
6 +7L
92.089mph
8 1:39.455
95.868mph
Disco
Firestone  
Gareth
 
Ferrari 330/P4 GT 1967 7 DNS ---
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Firestone  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Ford GT40 MkIIB GT 1967 8 ---
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Goodyear  
UKGPL 8
 
Chaparral Mk2F GT 1967 7 9 ---
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Firestone  

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No reported incidents again, so result stands.

December 06, 2013, 11:28:27 PM +0000 - Brands Hatch (GP) - UKGPL Season 25 (2013) Friday Trophy
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Mark Jones
 
Ferrari 712M Group 7 2 +0.413
106.906mph
1 26:31.644
106.700mph
18 1:27.423
107.922mph
Firestone  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Lola T260 Group 7 1 1:27.841
107.409mph
2 +23.989
105.115mph
18 1:28.570
106.525mph
Goodyear  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Porsche 917/10 Group 7 6 +2.098
104.903mph
3 +38.301
104.192mph
18 1:29.429
105.501mph
Goodyear  
Ronniepeterson
 
Ferrari 712M Group 7 5 +1.480
105.629mph
4 +39.961
104.086mph
18 1:28.965
106.052mph
Firestone  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Porsche 917/10 Group 7 3 +0.512
106.786mph
5 +43.539
103.859mph
18 1:27.490
107.840mph
Goodyear  
DLogan
 
Ferrari 712M Group 7 4 +0.691
106.570mph
6 +51.689
103.344mph
18 1:28.432
106.691mph
Firestone  
Walter Conn
 WSL Racing Team
Lola T260 Group 7 7 +2.863
104.018mph
7 +1:19.603
101.618mph
18 1:28.797
106.252mph
Goodyear  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Porsche 917/10 Group 7 8 +6.772
99.721mph
8 +17L
90.110mph
1 1:42.515
92.034mph
Disco
Goodyear  
UKGPL 8
 
Porsche 917/10 Group 7 9 9 DNS ---
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Goodyear  

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« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2013, 03:54:44 PM +0000 »

If a championship contender decides to pull that kind of stunt, he deserves to select sky, ground, sky! Angry
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« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2013, 08:05:31 PM +0000 »

My car might be easily indentified at Brands Hatch.

Attempts at moving the mirror have resulted in what appears to be a 48" plasma screen mounted on the roof. So maybe everyone will be able to see what I cannot?   eek

I hope you've backupped your *.3do file before to modify it m8 !  Tongue
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« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2013, 10:47:55 PM +0000 »

I was a minute late to the first race. I would have really enjoyed driving the Porsche 910. The Can Am race was fun. I was happy with my set-up choices. I would have enjoyed having a 42" plasma rear view mirror though. I made a couple of mistakes. Each mistake came after looking up at the prib.  Embarrassed I can tell that I just need more track time. Thanks all for the race, see you next time. - Walt

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« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2013, 11:20:40 PM +0000 »

I made a couple of mistakes. Each mistake came after looking up at the prib. 

Same here Walt. Brands is obviously not a good track to be looking at Prib. At least we know for next time!
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« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2013, 09:11:35 AM +0000 »

GT race was very nice : after the first laps, I was chasing Axel during all the rest of the race. Sometimes I was very close to overtake him but it is always risky and difficult on such a track. Moreover with 2 liters car against a 4,7 liter.
I tried to take any opportunity but I couldn't pass Axel, by the way my first objective was to finish first of the Heavy and so to finish ahead Martin to be able to win the Heavy Championship.
 
Canam race was a disaster as I couldn't setup the car which was undriveable. I retired at the end of the 1st lap.

Now looking at the Heavy Championship, I finish with exactly the same total of points as Dave Curtis : 359 points and the same number of wins = 11.
But the final result  is 1 Dave C. and 2 David R., why ? How is determined this final rank ?   


Something else, the rules indicates : The final championship positions will be determined from each drivers best thirty results.
My English speaking (and writing) is not brillant but I always (let's say since I am 12...) believed thirty = 30 and thirteen = 15.
But only the 15 best results are taken into account.
 Huh   Huh 

It has not a great importance and Dave deserves to win as he made less races than me, but I just want to know.
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« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2013, 10:08:31 AM +0000 »

GT race was very nice : after the first laps, I was chasing Axel during all the rest of the race. Sometimes I was very close to overtake him but it is always risky and difficult on such a track. Moreover with 2 liters car against a 4,7 liter.
I tried to take any opportunity but I couldn't pass Axel, by the way my first objective was to finish first of the Heavy and so to finish ahead Martin to be able to win the Heavy Championship.
 
Yeah David, a great little pain in the ass...
I tend to go the save way towards the end of the race and just control the distance, but after you got my slipstream I had to give a lot more.
The Porsche is one of the best cars around here Wink
The heavy Mirage has smooth handling and a good acceleration but is relative slow in the corners...


Now looking at the Heavy Championship, I finish with exactly the same total of points as Dave Curtis : 359 points and the same number of wins = 11.
But the final result  is 1 Dave C. and 2 David R., why ? How is determined this final rank ?   

Something else, the rules indicates : The final championship positions will be determined from each drivers best thirty results.
My English speaking (and writing) is not brillant but I always (let's say since I am 12...) believed thirty = 30 and thirteen = 15.
But only the 15 best results are taken into account.
 Huh   Huh 

It has not a great importance and Dave deserves to win as he made less races than me, but I just want to know.

I hope to have fixed this!

The Pribluda "problem" can be reduced by editing the positions of the main informations.
I have the essentials placed in the center on top and bottom, e.g. the "player position" and "tire temps"   
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« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2013, 10:35:00 AM +0000 »

Unfortunately I missed the start of the GT race and all the fun.
 I was in chat, trying to offer some ideas to Sergio, who for some reason was unable to join the race server. I confess that I am probably not the best qualified to offer ANY advice related to computers and the interweb, but I felt that I should at least try.
Anyhow, the race started without us and we sat and waited for the Can Am race before trying to get Sergio connected again. Still we had no joy and I only joined qually with about 4 mins to go.
It worked out that I did 2 warm up laps in the Can Am Porker and just crossed the line to get in a 3rd flying lap on full tanks before qually finished.
It was a good 1.5 secs off my PB but enough to get me 3rd on the grid....so not too bad I thought.

Martin had his Lola on pole ( that was gonna be a challenge to pass around here!) Mark ( I think?) was 2nd on the inside line for Paddock Hill bend. So the plan was ...get a flying start in the Porker and nail Paddock bend around the outside. So that if all worked out I should be into 2nd spot and on Martin's tail into Druids. That should put me in a good place to sneak past somewhere if Martin left an opening Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

You have to admit, it was a good plan, Maybe I should have shared it with other drivers so that they all knew what to do?? Undecided

The flag dropped, I got a good launch in the Porker and as we got rolling and the wheelspin was brought under control I had just about given it 100% gas to rocket past Mark's Fezza when he got his diff and tyres all crossed up. At first I thought "great he will lose traction and have to back off. I'll be in 2nd before Paddock Hill". That moment of euphoria lasted about 0.8secs!! as  a big Red Thing slewed across the track and formed an immediate road block 10 mtrs in front of me just as I hit the afterburners!!!
Having watched the replay I can see that it was ( probably  Roll Eyes )not intentional, but either way I think Mark owes me half of his points for the race win because the impact from my Porker prevented his trip into the barriers, knocked him back to his own side of the track AND facing in the correct direction so that he could continue. Whereas your poor innocent victim ( pause for violins and "AAhhh's" ) was left on the grass and joining in last place!!!
The red mist did not help after that and although I picked up a couple of places negotiating a 3 car melee exiting Druids, I proceeded to over drive Surtees and spun out onto the grass dropping me waaay behind the fast guys.
The rest of the race was really a battle between Dean and his Fezza and me in my little Porker for the minor places. I caught Dean a couple of times only to make a small error and drop back again, until he went wide and I scurried through to pick up a few more points.
Grats to the podium places and to all finishers.

The final rounds of the Friday challenge will be absolutely Out of This World, and hopefully a great finale to the season.  Wink
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« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2013, 10:36:59 AM +0000 »

Totally bad for me this weekend. After having wasted hours in practice to make the cars at least drivable...I've been the only one driver that was not able to join the server also if I could join to the other servers very well and at first shot, there has been not a single possibility to join the official server because of the 10054 error that I could not fix (and probably there was not anything I could make to fix it).

Due to the forthcoming holidays I take the opportunity for wishing you all a merry xmass and a happy new year and...last but not least...congrats to Axel and the guys on the podium for this last race and for all the championship.  Wink

P.S.: A special thanks to Clive who wasted his time and has lost his GT's race trying to fix my connection problems, I'm in debt with you mate so next race...when I'll be alongside you I'll try to respect you  Cheesy ...oops...I think it could be very difficult to stay beside you as well.
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« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2013, 02:55:50 PM +0000 »

For a change, I arrived at the track with 2 cars, which were both working as well online as offline.  Gt's are a challenge to haul around at Brands, but mine was semi-tamed and raceworthy, so I was hopeful.  

May have traded a spot of paint with Ronnie, into Paddock Bend on lap 1, as 3rd place was grabbed.  The tight grid made our getaway precarious, but just enough racing room was given.  It's been great to race amongst the best of the UKGPL fleet, where such close action is possible, without causing constant tragedy. Umm . . . a lap later tragedy struck at Paddock Hill Bend.  I left my mark on the barrier, and Dean left his mark on me, as I bounced into his path.  No serious damage done. Roll Eyes

In real life, Paddock was one of the most challenging corners anywhere.  A blind ridge, and increasing positive camber, had cars bouncing off the barriers at every meeting.  It's a bit less daunting these days - the corner was shaved 20 years later, to provide some runoff for potential bouncers, and the camber is less.  The greater challenge is ours.

Meanwhile, my deranged Chap was still in 3rd, and trying to cling onto David's tail, when the motor up and expired!  Thereafter, it was a slippery slope to the tail end, as I tried one or two experimental lines, within sight of the track. Angry

Race 2 was looking good.  Easily fastest in practice, the Lola was phenominal. umm . . . phinomenal, or fenomi . . . . perfection!  Leaving the grid, I noticed I'd gained a benefactor, as someone kindly threw an extravagant roadblock, of breathtaking scope and scape. It looked as though I'd finally get to win one of these races!  But then, a fiendish red blob appeared in my mirror, and it's growth rate told me, my win had been slightly premature.

There was no holding Mark, unless I'd decided to leave my mark on him.  And with a trip over the grass at South Bank bend, (original name) he was gone.  Hung on for a gratifying podium, in a racing series I've much enjoyed.  Thanks guys! laugh  
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« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2013, 09:03:59 PM +0000 »

Well. two problems with racing CanAm cars at Brands.  1, It's too narrow to pass, 2, the start line grid is bumpy, uneven and off-camber - which leads to these cars slipping and sliding when they try to get going.  Also, it seems pole position got swapped from the right to the left in between races, so I was back on the more bumpy side again for race 2!  While I can't dispute that there does seem to have been a minor collision of some nature, it seems that the Porker actually hit the back of the Fezza rather than the side of it (and while I was scuttling back to my side of the grid anyway).  After that I found myself stuck behind The Big Show - Martin's Lola had way too much power to pass until he made an error in South Bank and I was through.

The GT Mirage decided to blow it's engine on the first lap thanks to one slightly sub-standard gear change.  Talk about touchy.
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