UKPnG Season 8 Grand Touring Championship - Rouen - Nov 28

[Geoffers]

Bah no worries Moggs and Clive, I'm just lamenting being pretty much a privateer these days with no team mates driving p&g and no one to share set ups with etc :'(
Would be helpful if you big teams didn't snap up every single new driver that shows up on these shores though!
It would be healthy to have more teams on the grid to add to the competitive spice 

As a team of one I feel quite pleased to finish 5th in the team championship too 

Why don't you have a word with Donato (ElPorracho), Mark, he isn't in a team & seems pretty quick!!!!! That is if Clive hasn't already snaffled him. 

[Clive Loynes]

As if!

[Mark J]

I expect he's already been wined and dined by Clive  plus he's from another planet to my modest sim racing talents  I just want a couple of clean honest plucky racers to fight for points  easy option would be for me to leave the Legends and join another team but just can't bring myself to do that yet despite it being very tempting

[Rombo27]

Hi all,
thank all those who have given us the opportunity to participate having changed their car, and I apologize for the misunderstanding with Tudor during the race.

Congratulations to the podium and to all the riders on the track.

Ciao

[goldtop]

Hi all,
thank all those who have given us the opportunity to participate having changed their car, and I apologize for the misunderstanding with Tudor during the race.

Congratulations to the podium and to all the riders on the track.

Ciao

No problem Otto, all ok now 

Congrats to John on a well deserved driver's title and to all the soggy types for team win 

[Legzy]

Is there anyone SBRC or WSL haven't recruited?!
After seeing both Jester and JX drive well and cleanly I thought I might offer them a job with the Legends, only to yet again find they had both been already signed up  
You lot are becoming the modern day Team Shark !! No wonder your winning the champs when 80% of the drivers are in your team  

Sorry about your legends Mark but the increased interest that Team7 were showing in our races has meant that SBRC has had to raise its game if we are to compete in the future.  Ivan looked a promising prospect when he appeared back in July and has come on in leaps and bounds over the last couple of races so that we now have two drivers who can take the battle to Italy.  

EDIT:  Think I shall have to cancel all shore leave until the championships are won!

Sorry but I think it's truly rubbish that in a race with 22 drivers (which is a fairly average attendance for us) 7 of the drivers are for one team.
I would actually like to push for abandoning the team championships from next season till teams limit themselves to say 4/5 named drivers for a championship season.
IIRC, back in the Day, Team shark split into an 'A' & 'B' team as winning the 'Team Championships' value was reduced greatly by their sheer size & dominance.
I dare say that the winning team over the season would still be the SBRC (which I have no objection too, as I believe they are a very well run team) for the majority of the titles, but it would hopefully encourage some competition & make it worth having a glance at the team table from time to time again.
I know I (part of Team Oldie) certainly miss the team banter with the Soggys (who are way ahead) & the Leg-ends (who are sadly lagging somewhat behind now).

[Hotkeys]

"Sorry but I think it's truly rubbish that in a race with 22 drivers (which is a fairly average attendance for us) 7 of the drivers are for one team."

If I'm not mistaking, only the result of the best two drivers from a team is counting. So how will it make a difference to limit the number of team members?

Personally I wouldn't mind not being representing the SBRC, 'cause I hardly ever finish a race, and if I do, I'm never one the two best from my team. But I don't see the point, unless you want to limit the number of team members joining the races. That not a good idea is it?

Stig

[Clive Loynes]

There are many reasons for being in SBRC; not being in Team Oldie being one of the most important!

Some contribute to the development of setups, some are engaged in fighting the Kerbies/Team7 and kicking seven bells out of The Oldies!

Some are part of SBRC so that we can help them to go faster by sharing setups and any other race information.  Some people do not have time to sort their own setups and would probably just pack in if they were not able to access something useful.

As Stig has said.  It is the first two home in any team that earn the points, the rest of us are backup and admin.  So it's the first two that you are racing and if you think that any of the rest of us will help you to get on terms with Team7 then please explain how.  LOL

When attendances reach a point where the league needs two divisions, we will be ready.   

[phspok]

You are welcome to join Team Pseudo Stig 
Then at least we would score "some" points with 2 drivers.

Interesting point about the numbers, I think two divisions is interesting but unlikely
I think the numbers will shrink slightly next year as some, or all the Italians start their own leagues
But 20 or more is becoming fairly regular which means there is usually someone to race against
wherever you come in the pack. Not sure exactly why we are getting relatively high numbers these days
certainly a lot of it is to do with marketing work from MJ, Geoffers, and others.
Hopefully we can continue to provide events that people find worth putting some time in for. 

[Mark J]

Perhaps us solo team racers need to unite to form Team pseudo oldie Legend  . We could actually form a unique p&g team  though me and Legz love being rivals 

But I agree 7 racers from one team in a race is too lopsided. And I don't buy the weak reasoning that only top 2 score the points, as having 7 guys in with a shout kinda swings the law of averages! Pretty sure Team Shark used to say the same 
Don't begrudge you having a good spread of drivers but the recent policy of snapping up all the new guys is what has led to us minnows having no one to recruit. The teams table adds another fun element in the rivalry and banter so would be healthy if there were a few teams to do battle.

Otherwise A few of us will have to be content with plugging along as a privateer I suppose. lord knows why the various Legends have dropped off the sim racing radar ...quitters!