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November 24, 2013, 10:40:18 PM +0000 - Laguna Seca (1988+) - UKGPL Season 25 (2013) Works Trophy (67)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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MagicArsouille
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 3 +0.513
101.110mph
1 (+1) 50:51.925
98.600mph
44 1:07.637
101.114mph
Goodyear  
AndyL
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 6 +1.226
100.055mph
2 +1:00.094
96.696mph
44 1:09.401
98.544mph
Firestone  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 11 +4.478
95.511mph
3 +1L
95.410mph
43 1:09.236
98.779mph
Firestone  
Samb
 Black Night Racing
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 2 +0.467
101.179mph
4 +5L
99.059mph
39 1:08.012
100.557mph
accident
Goodyear  
JonnyO
 Team Coyote
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 5 +1.032
100.340mph
5 +10L
94.805mph
34 1:08.256
100.197mph
Disco
Firestone  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 10 +3.821
96.396mph
6 +13L
95.401mph
31 1:09.516
98.381mph
accident
Firestone  
Turkey Machine
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 9 +2.380
98.394mph
7 +20L
93.696mph
24 1:09.479
98.434mph
accident
Firestone  
DLogan
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 7 +1.654
99.433mph
8 +37L
80.955mph
7 1:21.385
84.034mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Ronniepeterson
 
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 4 +1.028
100.346mph
9 +38L
91.738mph
6 1:10.268
97.328mph
Disco
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 1 1:07.127
101.883mph
10 +43L
92.810mph
1 1:14.681
91.577mph
Disco
Firestone  
s2173
 Team7
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 8 +1.991
98.948mph
11 +19.426
73.448mph
1 1:31.236
74.960mph
accident
Goodyear  
Gpg UKGPL
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 12 12 DNS ---
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Firestone  

Moderator's Report

SUMMARY
After a lightning start to take the lead, a mistake at the second corner dropped Tristan Bot down to last place. However that didn't prevent him from delivering a stunning drive to fight his way back up through the field. Unfortunately in the process he rear-ended Andy Livingstone and although the contact was fairly light it damaged Andy's suspension. Consequently Tristan picked up a place penalty, dropping him to second place on the podium. Andy is promoted to first place with David Rainier picking up a large haul of points for third place. Tristan's progress through the field was helped by several of the faster drivers experiencing mechanical problems or making unforced errors nevertheless he proved his outright pace by claiming the fastest lap.

Despite crashing out from the lead with five laps to go, Sam still took fourth place which has allowed him to put one hand on the trophy. Now David Rainier is the only other driver with a mathematical chance of winning the title.


Server replay time: 0h07m47s

Lap 6 - Turn 8 - Tristan Bot and Andrew Livingston
Tristan gets too close to Andrew in the braking zone for Turn 8 and contact is made. Andy is pushed wide but he manages to stay on the tarmac. However his suspension is damaged which compromises the rest of his race.

Andy did nothing wrong, he was driving at his normal pace on his normal line.

Tristan simply braked too late. He locked up in a desperate attempt to avoid contact, nevertheless he must take responsibility for the incident.

There is the very slightest on contact registered on the server but due to internet lag the contact on Andrew's client was quite significant. We all have to understand and appreciate the consequences of internet lag (commonly referred to as warp) and drive accordingly. In most cases that means leaving a larger gap to the car in front than one might reasonably get away with in real life. It is the responsibility of the following car to ensure the gap is adequate and to only close up when making an attempt to overtake. Consequently this incident has to be classed as a Rear End Shunt (See Penalty Guidelines - Blatant Rear End Shunt - Scenario 1) but with mitigation because of Warp down to a penalty of one place.

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« on: November 21, 2013, 11:02:56 PM +0000 »

Season 25 Works Trophy, Round 9, Laguna Seca

Welcome to the ninth round in the Works Trophy.  This time we cross the pond to visit our american friends in sunny California.

Laguna Seca was built in 1957 after the nearby Pebble Beach Road Races (another track used by UKGPL) were abandoned for being too dangerous.  The first race, held on November 9, 1957, was won by Pete Lovely driving a Ferrari 500 TR Sports Car.  Several Trans-Am races have been held at Laguna Seca but Formula 1 races were never held there.  The track has frequently been used for motorcycle races most notably the AMA Superbike Series, World Superbikes and MotoGP.

As always, we will run Pro Damage, so resets are not allowed.

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_GPG
IP address = 62.195.2.111
Race date = 24-11-2013
Race Time = race starts at 21:30 UK time
Qualifying Time = Between 30 and 60 minutes, starting no later than 21:00 UK time
Track = Laguna Seca
Variant = 67F1
Damage Model = PRO
Race length = 50 minutes (laps 44)
Password: see above

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Moderating The red zone will be fully moderated for lap 1 only. For this event the red zone will be from the start to the bottom of the Cork Screw. Other moderation will be on reported incidents only.  However any incidents that occur in the red zone that are not reported by the drivers will be reported by the moderator.  This will allow all affected drivers the opportunity to present their case before the incident is moderated.  This should ensure there are no surprises when the moderator's report is published and hence appeals will be less likely.  If you haven't received a PM about an incident before the link below the results table is removed, you can be sure that you will not appear in the moderator's report.

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« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2013, 10:32:29 PM +0000 »

hi ...the link to the track is .....not found !
....is it Laguna or Laguna 95 ??

thx Wink
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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2013, 10:45:26 PM +0000 »

hi ...the link to the track is .....not found !
....is it Laguna or Laguna 95 ??

thx Wink


Try this: http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=9284&hl=laguna

The base install is also on the FTP server here: http://ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/Tracks/Laguna%20Seca/
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« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2013, 11:11:18 AM +0000 »

Opps sorry gents.  Dean is correct, it is the 67 version.  I've updated the link in the race post  thumbup1
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« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2013, 11:17:47 AM +0000 »

Got this one marked on my calendar.  Finally, a return to racing with the UKGPL!  Smiley

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« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2013, 09:32:11 PM +0000 »

Got this one marked on my calendar.  Finally, a return to racing with the UKGPL!  Smiley

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« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2013, 11:20:31 AM +0000 »

GPG server is set for 44 laps Long race.
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« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2013, 09:55:43 PM +0000 »

Managed to keep it clean until the corkscrew. :/

Despite being (what I thought was) careful, I still managed to entangle myself in the haybales, then did the crab-walk back across the track (collecting no one else, thankfully), collect the car and my thoughts, get going again at the tail of the pack only to have the engine go off (story of my season Sad ) in the bext few corners.

Limp a sick Brabham around 13 seconds off the pace long enough to collect a few more retirement promotions then it gave up the ghost for good lap 9 (I think, whatever).

Maybe I should go back to Privs...
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« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2013, 10:19:32 PM +0000 »

Why why why taz

In a safe 4th place with 12 laps to go and I lost concentration for a couple of seconds and drove into the straw bales at the pit entrance.  Stuck like a fly in treacle  Angry

Grats to the finishers!
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« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2013, 10:28:14 PM +0000 »

Silly mistake. I led the race after Clive's Lotus decided to become an elaborate paperweight and remained leading until 5 laps to go. That was until I braked too late into one of the corners and lost the back end, ripping a wheel off. That's the second race this season that I've thrown away a potential win. A pity as I was so close to the flag. Congrats to all finishers.
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« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2013, 09:08:11 AM +0000 »

Well Sam at least you managed to complete 90% of the race, my Lotus detonated after 9%!!

I had spent a couple of hours ( in 15minute slots ) over the weekend playing with the Lotus. I realised that I had a bucketful of tokens and no chance of getting any meaningful position in the championship....so why not have some high speed fun?? I have not used the Lotus for absolutel ages and had forgotten just how nimble it was ( compared to the Honda!!! lol)

I was well aware of the reputation that the Lotus has for frailty, so I set the gearing to upshift at 8500 rpm. My only worry was that I could not get 1st gear high enough and found that I needed to short shift into 2nd very quickly. Anyway I did not suffer a single blown engine in all my trials, or in qually so i thought that I had things sorted.
Qually was done on race fuel, so I knew that I should be fast enough to compete at the front and that once the fuel load went down low 1:06's were quite easy. Tyre temps were my biggest problem as it took at least 2 laps to get any heat into them and even after pushing hard for 10 laps or so they would still be blue??!! I cannot understand that??!!
I was careful off the grid, trying to protect the engine and Tris whipped past in his Brabham. Unfortunately he ran too deep and too fast into T1 and started chewing the polos, so I regained 1st place.
I was tip toeing around the first lap waiting for some grip from the tyres and still managed to ease a few metres from Sam in his Eagle, so things were looking good. Then going down the hill after the corkscrew someone tossed a grenade into the engine and it was all over Undecided.
Quite disappointed to go out so early and in such a way. I always thought my years with the Honda had taught me to look after engines, but maybe this was one of those GPL random interventions ( I prefer to think that that is the case, it makes me feel better!!)

Grats to Tris who obviously recovered from his 1st lap off to take the win and commiserations to those who also tripped up.

 
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« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2013, 06:36:01 PM +0000 »

Silly mistake. I led the race after Clive's Lotus decided to become an elaborate paperweight and remained leading until 5 laps to go. That was until I braked too late into one of the corners and lost the back end, ripping a wheel off. That's the second race this season that I've thrown away a potential win. A pity as I was so close to the flag. Congrats to all finishers.

Congratulations Sam !

You are, at 99,99%, our season 25 Works champion.

I am the only one mathematically able to win this championship, if this is not you.
But with 29+19 (my 2nd worst result) = 48 points less than you, I must win and you should not participate at the next race ...or be DQ Smiley

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« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2013, 08:31:37 PM +0000 »

Did OK, but made a mistake at the Corkscrew and ended up spinning the car around such that I stood on the brakes to keep it still as cars went around, but one car did not manage that feat and t-boned me good and proper. Pushed me the right way around and got going again, but I then lost it a few laps at the 2nd-last corner's exit and overturned the Honda. Was starting to get to grips with the Honda around here, but still felt dreadfully slow! Congrats to Tristan on winning and Sam on (nearly) clinching the title!
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« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2013, 06:42:41 PM +0000 »

well Phil...realy hard decision in fact !....if there is contact ( not shure at all ,after looking the reaplay, for me it's a lag or bug or warp, because, if you look the reaplay's Andy whith the rear-suspension vues, you can't sees any contact at all !!) , Andy don't loose the control and don't go out of track...of corse I' m surprising of the early breaking of the ferrari, but I manage it quite well and I don't block any wheels. If I had made a stuntended, I had wait for give back is place to Andy ( as I use to do when the car goes out of track or do a 360°)....for me it's only a very very little race incident.
.....what Andy think about ?......the incident have been reported ?....??
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« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2013, 11:34:21 PM +0000 »

Tristan

The incident was reported and you should have received a PM inviting you to respond.  Without your input and client replay to consider I have to make a decision based on the reports and replays available to me.  I understand your concerns.  You are entitled to raise an appeal to the Chief Moderator (via a PM).  If you do so please attach your client replay if you have it.

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