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  • P8BHC Goodwood: December 05, 2013
December 05, 2013, 08:44:19 PM +0000 - Goodwood (Circuit) - UKPnG Season 8 British Historic Cup
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
ElPorracho
 
Alfa Romeo Giulia 1300 GTA Junior WB (#7233) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 1 1:27.917
97.359mph
1 40:11.735
95.826mph
27 1:28.428
96.796mph
Firestone  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Renault Alpine A110 (#68061) P&G Group 3 U2L 2 +0.301
97.026mph
2 +4.613
95.643mph
27 1:28.072
97.187mph
Dunlop  
johnw
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Alfa Romeo Giulia 1300 GTA Junior WB (#7233) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 6 +0.631
96.665mph
3 +12.276
95.340mph
27 1:28.838
96.349mph
Firestone  
fzcfede
 Team7
Renault Alpine A110 (#68051) P&G Group 3 U2L 7 +0.631
96.665mph
4 +12.918
95.315mph
27 1:28.407
96.819mph
Dunlop  
Alessandro Tancioni
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Renault Alpine A110 (#68051) P&G Group 3 U2L 3 +0.357
96.965mph
5 +17.014
95.154mph
27 1:27.957
97.314mph
Dunlop  
Giuseppe Reali
 Team7
Renault Alpine A110 (#68051) P&G Group 3 U2L 8 +0.683
96.608mph
6 +25.450
94.825mph
27 1:27.984
97.284mph
Dunlop  
goldtop
 Kerb Crawlers
Renault Alpine A110 (#68051) P&G Group 3 U2L 10 +1.305
95.935mph
7 +25.775
94.812mph
27 1:28.523
96.692mph
Dunlop  
Super Vitoz
 
Renault Alpine A110 (#68051) P&G Group 3 U2L 4 +0.365
96.956mph
8 +36.923
94.381mph
27 1:29.129
96.035mph
Dunlop  
NPP
 Team Oldie Racing
Alfa Romeo Giulia 1300 GTA Junior WB (#72036) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 12 +1.776
95.431mph
9 +55.785
93.659mph
27 1:30.176
94.920mph
Dunlop  
Animal Ed
 Team Oldie Racing
Alfa Romeo Giulia 1300 GTA Junior WB (#72036) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 13 +2.023
95.169mph
10 +59.405
93.522mph
27 1:29.096
96.070mph
Dunlop  
Mogget
 WSL Racing Team
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#69030) P&G Group 2 16 +2.762
94.393mph
11 +1:18.978
92.787mph
27 1:30.421
94.663mph
Dunlop  
Legzy
 Team Oldie Racing
Alfa Romeo Giulia 1300 GTA Junior WB (#72036) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 15 +2.526
94.639mph
12 +1L
91.874mph
26 1:30.944
94.118mph
Dunlop  
Clive Loynes
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Renault Alpine A110 (#68051) P&G Group 3 U2L 9 +1.162
96.089mph
13 +0.191
91.867mph
26 1:30.373
94.713mph
Dunlop  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#69030) P&G Group 2 18 +3.459
93.673mph
14 +13.715
91.357mph
26 1:31.500
93.546mph
Dunlop  
SuperSWIFT
 
Triumph TR4 (#63038) P&G Group 3 O2L 19 +3.771
93.354mph
15 +46.617
90.140mph
26 1:31.393
93.656mph
Dunlop  
Bob
 WSL Racing Team
Triumph TR4 (#63038) P&G Group 3 O2L 21 +5.546
91.581mph
16 +2L
88.501mph
25 1:32.948
92.089mph
Dunlop  
Alex vV
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Triumph TR4 (#63038) P&G Group 3 O2L 22 +7.379
89.820mph
17 +19.095
87.807mph
25 1:34.844
90.248mph
Dunlop  
SpecialKS
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Renault Alpine A110 (#68061) P&G Group 3 U2L 17 +3.212
93.927mph
18 +34.376
87.260mph
25 1:31.088
93.969mph
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#69030) P&G Group 2 23 +8.826
88.476mph
19 +57.712
86.437mph
25 1:34.317
90.752mph
Dunlop  
Hotkeys
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Alfa Romeo Giulia 1300 GTA Junior WB (#72035) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 20 +5L 22 1:29.592
95.538mph
engine
Dunlop  
frex
 Kerb Crawlers
Renault Alpine A110 (#68051) P&G Group 3 U2L 11 +1.603
95.615mph
21 +14L 13 1:29.601
95.529mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Jarda Zacek
 
Alfa Romeo Giulia 1300 GTA Junior WB (#72036) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 20 +4.592
92.526mph
22 +15L 12 1:31.586
93.458mph
unknown
Dunlop  
IvanStanchev
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Renault Alpine A110 (#68061) P&G Group 3 U2L 5 +0.499
96.809mph
23 +21L 6 1:29.128
96.036mph
unknown
Dunlop  
seniordan
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Alfa Romeo Giulia 1300 GTA Junior WB (#70022) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 14 +2.271
94.907mph
24 +22L 5 1:31.365
93.684mph
engine
Firestone  

Moderator's Report

Clive Loynes claims that for a 2nd time on the same (1st) lap he was hit by SuperSWIFT.
The replay doesn't support this claim. The 2nd incident shows SuperSWIFT who appears to keep his line and is almost level with Clive. Clive changes his line and turns into SuperSWIFT, the glance causes a slow spin for Clive who ends up stopped in the middle of the track with the remainder of the field fast approaching. Bob had little chance to avoid a huge impact.

  • Bobadvice — No case to answer
  • Clive Loynesadvice — Moderator does not uphold claim
  • SuperSWIFTadvice — No case to answer
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GTR2
P&G Group 2
1:30.679
94.393mph
Mogget
Qualifying
Austin Mini Cooper 1275SDecember 05, 2013, 08:44:19 PM +0000
P8BHC
GTR2
P&G Group 2
1:30.421
94.663mph
Mogget
Race
Austin Mini Cooper 1275SDecember 05, 2013, 08:44:19 PM +0000
P8BHC
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« Reply #30 on: December 05, 2013, 09:46:28 PM +0000 »

I picked the Alfa thinking that I was less likely to fall off in it than in the Alpine. That was probably the right decision as I made up a number of places because of Alpines falling off. Otherwise it wasn't an eventful race - I was overtaken two or three times and got the places back when other people went off track, I didn't make any major mistakes and matched my best practice time but that was still disappointingly slow - where can I find a whole second a lap?
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« Reply #31 on: December 05, 2013, 10:03:01 PM +0000 »

Driver award goes to John_W

Wohoo clap

who again was often in the slowest car gaining max kudos  thumbup1 thumbup1 thumbup1

Yeah, that might have to change if the Soggies are to try and compete with our Italian friends!

Grats Kerbies thumbup1 Thought we might be able to sneak this one back, but Geoffers was very fast in the Alpine Shocked

Very eventful this race, lots of fun swapping places with Giuseppe, Frederico & Alessandro. Was quite surprised at just how fast the Alpine was in a straight line. I was expecting to be able to out-drag them in the Alfa and sit in front of them in the corners, but as it was those little blue cars seemed to be able to pass at will on the straight!

where can I find a whole second a lap?

Dunno, but let me know if you find it - I'm still looking for half a second to Donato Grin
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« Reply #32 on: December 05, 2013, 10:16:05 PM +0000 »

Great race, nice duels with Matt, Legzy and Superswift :-))

Unfortunately I blev the engine with 4 laps to go.

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« Reply #33 on: December 05, 2013, 10:16:47 PM +0000 »

The Mini's were all Gr.5 and not Gr.2 as the results state.
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« Reply #34 on: December 05, 2013, 10:52:56 PM +0000 »

Not sure who I hit on first lap, huge cloud of blue smoke and no chance to avoid. Very sorry, I did the rest of the race with the car damaged but made it to the finish albeit lapped twice. Good fun, Bob.

Think it was me Bob and as you say it was not your fault.  It was another TR4, that had already hit me once at T1, which then completed the job properly on the approach to St Mary's.  My car was also bent and it was at that same point on each lap that it gave me the most problems.  So much so that I had a right job trying to get past Matt in his Mini.

Congratulations to John on a well earned crown and grats to the Kerbies for nicking one of our cups.  Roll Eyes

I did tell you John that the Alpine was quicker on the straights, so long as you geared it to rev its nuts off!
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« Reply #35 on: December 05, 2013, 11:15:12 PM +0000 »

I did tell you John that the Alpine was quicker on the straights, so long as you geared it to rev its nuts off!

Would that have been the email you sent this morning? If so, it was blank! I wondered why there was nothing in it, should have asked what it was about. Oh well, doubt it would have changed the result, given where Goldtop finished Sad
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« Reply #36 on: December 06, 2013, 06:08:00 AM +0000 »

Had some problems reading ingame chat messages at the start and missed it. Then again while racing, spun got angry and hit escape Smiley 

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« Reply #37 on: December 06, 2013, 07:46:20 AM +0000 »

I didn't see any distracting chat messages at the start, only the automatic ones about how many drivers have yet to join. I noticed that I couldn't see the lights from my spot near the bottom of the grid so concentrated on the timer instead
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« Reply #38 on: December 06, 2013, 08:02:07 AM +0000 »

Something about the lights i think. No matter what or when in the race the chat is forbidden. That's what is written in the rules. It happens every time and that's why i'm mentioning it. Lots of people always write something before leaving which is disturbing for me. Smiley BTW Sorry for the contact in the first lap NP
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« Reply #39 on: December 06, 2013, 08:38:48 AM +0000 »

Something about the lights i think. No matter what or when in the race the chat is forbidden. That's what is written in the rules. It happens every time and that's why i'm mentioning it. Lots of people always write something before leaving which is disturbing for me. Smiley BTW Sorry for the contact in the first lap NP

If someone leaves the race before it's finished, the game will automaticly generate a chat message saying "Flash Gordon has left the game".

I don't remember how, but I'm pretty sure, you can turn off ingame-chat somewhere in the options menu.



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« Reply #40 on: December 06, 2013, 08:55:39 AM +0000 »

Something about the lights i think. No matter what or when in the race the chat is forbidden. That's what is written in the rules. It happens every time and that's why i'm mentioning it. Lots of people always write something before leaving which is disturbing for me. Smiley

I agree completely.

Don't know what it is about the phrase "No chat messages in the race or qualifying." but some people just don't get it.

The only messages allowed in the race relate to pit stops so please don't use "Sorry" in any form or "Thanks", that's a really annoying one as you never know if it was a genuine thanks or a sarcastic "Thanks!!" for messing things up.  By the time that I have pondered on who might be falling out with whom I can be half way to my own disaster.

Flashing headlights is normally enough to say thanks for letting me by or "I have seen you and you can pass without fear!"  Except for me and Bob who probably didn't have a headlight between us.  In which case you all had to guess as I didn't utter a word.
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« Reply #41 on: December 06, 2013, 09:05:33 AM +0000 »

I did tell you John that the Alpine was quicker on the straights, so long as you geared it to rev its nuts off!

Would that have been the email you sent this morning? If so, it was blank! I wondered why there was nothing in it, should have asked what it was about. Oh well, doubt it would have changed the result, given where Goldtop finished Sad
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Nope, it was the one sent on Sunday that said:-
Interesting.

The Alpine owns the straights but the Alfa is stronger in the corners.  This might just be that the Alfa setup is so stable that it gives more confidence to push it a bit.  On the other hand, it might mean that I need to look at the Alfa gear ratios again.

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You did your bit John, it was unfortunate that both Ivan and I had a duff race.  I think that Stig was the next Soggy in the running but he had problems as well.
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« Reply #42 on: December 06, 2013, 09:07:02 AM +0000 »

Something about the lights i think. No matter what or when in the race the chat is forbidden. That's what is written in the rules. It happens every time and that's why i'm mentioning it. Lots of people always write something before leaving which is disturbing for me. Smiley BTW Sorry for the contact in the first lap NP

If someone leaves the race before it's finished, the game will automaticly generate a chat message saying "Flash Gordon has left the game".

I don't remember how, but I'm pretty sure, you can turn off ingame-chat somewhere in the options menu.



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Cheesy Yes i can see that. I'm sure you know what i'm talking about. Last messages i remember yesterday were "LOL". I'm sure it's not generated by the game Cheesy But that's not the only case as i said. I agree that it's my problem that i'm watching it but in the rules is written that the chat is forbidden during Q and R.
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« Reply #43 on: December 06, 2013, 09:14:55 AM +0000 »

First congrats to John on a well deserved championship win. I Am Not Worthy Also well done to all my Kerbies teammates on pinching one of the Soggies cups, well plundered!  Grin

Good race from my point of view. Had a great run in the Alpine, harrying Donato for the first few laps until a mistake at St Mary's let Giuseppe past. Got back into 2nd a few laps later when Giuseppe copied my mistake then had a good battle with him for a few laps until his attempted overtake at Woodcote bumped me onto the grass & I dropped back to 4th behind Federico. The three of us then had a good battle for several laps until both of my opponents got on the grass exiting the chicane & left me in a fairly comfortable 2nd place. Cut Donato's lead a little over the remaining laps but I was never gonna make up the deficit even if the race had been 10 laps longer.

Congrats to Donato on the win & to John in 3rd place. clap clap
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« Reply #44 on: December 06, 2013, 09:21:44 AM +0000 »

Nope, it was the one sent on Sunday that said:-
Interesting.

The Alpine owns the straights but the Alfa is stronger in the corners.

Oh yeah, so you did. I read that the other way round for some reason! Only myself to blame then Grin
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