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  • P8BHC Goodwood: December 05, 2013
December 05, 2013, 08:44:19 PM +0000 - Goodwood (Circuit) - UKPnG Season 8 British Historic Cup
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
ElPorracho
 
Alfa Romeo Giulia 1300 GTA Junior WB (#7233) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 1 1:27.917
97.359mph
1 40:11.735
95.826mph
27 1:28.428
96.796mph
Firestone  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Renault Alpine A110 (#68061) P&G Group 3 U2L 2 +0.301
97.026mph
2 +4.613
95.643mph
27 1:28.072
97.187mph
Dunlop  
johnw
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Alfa Romeo Giulia 1300 GTA Junior WB (#7233) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 6 +0.631
96.665mph
3 +12.276
95.340mph
27 1:28.838
96.349mph
Firestone  
fzcfede
 Team7
Renault Alpine A110 (#68051) P&G Group 3 U2L 7 +0.631
96.665mph
4 +12.918
95.315mph
27 1:28.407
96.819mph
Dunlop  
Alessandro Tancioni
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Renault Alpine A110 (#68051) P&G Group 3 U2L 3 +0.357
96.965mph
5 +17.014
95.154mph
27 1:27.957
97.314mph
Dunlop  
Giuseppe Reali
 Team7
Renault Alpine A110 (#68051) P&G Group 3 U2L 8 +0.683
96.608mph
6 +25.450
94.825mph
27 1:27.984
97.284mph
Dunlop  
goldtop
 Kerb Crawlers
Renault Alpine A110 (#68051) P&G Group 3 U2L 10 +1.305
95.935mph
7 +25.775
94.812mph
27 1:28.523
96.692mph
Dunlop  
Super Vitoz
 
Renault Alpine A110 (#68051) P&G Group 3 U2L 4 +0.365
96.956mph
8 +36.923
94.381mph
27 1:29.129
96.035mph
Dunlop  
NPP
 Team Oldie Racing
Alfa Romeo Giulia 1300 GTA Junior WB (#72036) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 12 +1.776
95.431mph
9 +55.785
93.659mph
27 1:30.176
94.920mph
Dunlop  
Animal Ed
 Team Oldie Racing
Alfa Romeo Giulia 1300 GTA Junior WB (#72036) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 13 +2.023
95.169mph
10 +59.405
93.522mph
27 1:29.096
96.070mph
Dunlop  
Mogget
 WSL Racing Team
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#69030) P&G Group 2 16 +2.762
94.393mph
11 +1:18.978
92.787mph
27 1:30.421
94.663mph
Dunlop  
Legzy
 Team Oldie Racing
Alfa Romeo Giulia 1300 GTA Junior WB (#72036) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 15 +2.526
94.639mph
12 +1L
91.874mph
26 1:30.944
94.118mph
Dunlop  
Clive Loynes
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Renault Alpine A110 (#68051) P&G Group 3 U2L 9 +1.162
96.089mph
13 +0.191
91.867mph
26 1:30.373
94.713mph
Dunlop  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#69030) P&G Group 2 18 +3.459
93.673mph
14 +13.715
91.357mph
26 1:31.500
93.546mph
Dunlop  
SuperSWIFT
 
Triumph TR4 (#63038) P&G Group 3 O2L 19 +3.771
93.354mph
15 +46.617
90.140mph
26 1:31.393
93.656mph
Dunlop  
Bob
 WSL Racing Team
Triumph TR4 (#63038) P&G Group 3 O2L 21 +5.546
91.581mph
16 +2L
88.501mph
25 1:32.948
92.089mph
Dunlop  
Alex vV
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Triumph TR4 (#63038) P&G Group 3 O2L 22 +7.379
89.820mph
17 +19.095
87.807mph
25 1:34.844
90.248mph
Dunlop  
SpecialKS
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Renault Alpine A110 (#68061) P&G Group 3 U2L 17 +3.212
93.927mph
18 +34.376
87.260mph
25 1:31.088
93.969mph
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#69030) P&G Group 2 23 +8.826
88.476mph
19 +57.712
86.437mph
25 1:34.317
90.752mph
Dunlop  
Hotkeys
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Alfa Romeo Giulia 1300 GTA Junior WB (#72035) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 20 +5L 22 1:29.592
95.538mph
engine
Dunlop  
frex
 Kerb Crawlers
Renault Alpine A110 (#68051) P&G Group 3 U2L 11 +1.603
95.615mph
21 +14L 13 1:29.601
95.529mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Jarda Zacek
 
Alfa Romeo Giulia 1300 GTA Junior WB (#72036) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 20 +4.592
92.526mph
22 +15L 12 1:31.586
93.458mph
unknown
Dunlop  
IvanStanchev
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Renault Alpine A110 (#68061) P&G Group 3 U2L 5 +0.499
96.809mph
23 +21L 6 1:29.128
96.036mph
unknown
Dunlop  
seniordan
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Alfa Romeo Giulia 1300 GTA Junior WB (#70022) P&G 70s Gr2 U2L 14 +2.271
94.907mph
24 +22L 5 1:31.365
93.684mph
engine
Firestone  

Moderator's Report

Clive Loynes claims that for a 2nd time on the same (1st) lap he was hit by SuperSWIFT.
The replay doesn't support this claim. The 2nd incident shows SuperSWIFT who appears to keep his line and is almost level with Clive. Clive changes his line and turns into SuperSWIFT, the glance causes a slow spin for Clive who ends up stopped in the middle of the track with the remainder of the field fast approaching. Bob had little chance to avoid a huge impact.

  • Bobadvice — No case to answer
  • Clive Loynesadvice — Moderator does not uphold claim
  • SuperSWIFTadvice — No case to answer
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GTR2
P&G Group 2
1:30.679
94.393mph
Mogget
Qualifying
Austin Mini Cooper 1275SDecember 05, 2013, 08:44:19 PM +0000
P8BHC
GTR2
P&G Group 2
1:30.421
94.663mph
Mogget
Race
Austin Mini Cooper 1275SDecember 05, 2013, 08:44:19 PM +0000
P8BHC
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« Reply #45 on: December 06, 2013, 09:43:33 AM +0000 »

BTW Sorry for the contact in the first lap NP

don't worry, I think it was a robust move but still ok.
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« Reply #46 on: December 06, 2013, 10:33:44 AM +0000 »

I was expecting the Mini to be considerably slower than the Alpine and Alfa, but it was not quite as bad as I thought it would be. In fact, I seemed to be able to keep pace with the Alfa on the straights, and even close the gap using the slipstream if I was close enough. I had a couple of enjoyable battles with Alfa drivers (firstly with Legzy until he spun off, and then with Animal Ed later on). I was struggling to keep pace with Animal Ed towards the end of the race, and then I ran wide onto the grass as my tyres started to show signs of wear. I completed the last three or four laps on my own, but I was happy enough with P11 as I didn't expect to have any chance whatsoever in the Mini Smiley
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« Reply #47 on: December 06, 2013, 10:35:19 AM +0000 »

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« Reply #48 on: December 06, 2013, 11:07:44 AM +0000 »

Quite an exciting race last night. I never seem to do very well at Goodwood but it was my first time in the Alpine (I think) so maybe my setup also contributed to me feeling so far off pace of those at the front. Had some good dicing but made too many little mistakes compared to those around me.

Congrats to Donato for the win and to Geoffers and John for the podies  Cool

Well done John for winning a hard earned driver's championship....impressive stuff again  Cool Well done Kerbies for winning the team championship and denying those soggies a clean sweep  Wink

Thanks to Matt for his continued efforts in organising these events and to Alex for those lapcharts  thumbup1
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« Reply #49 on: December 06, 2013, 12:19:10 PM +0000 »

Chat in Qual or Race ist verboten. It is potentially distracting for people in the heat of battle.
It is "normal" for a few messages of good will while sat on the grid like "GLA" etc, but once the race starts we prefer silence
even if you knock someone off, it is expected that you will say nothing and then wait for them.
I sometimes want to shout "Sorry I shoved you off, but for Cod's sake hurry up and GET BACK ON THE TRACK so we can get on with it"
but that would be errrrr  "inappropriate"

I made a comment on the grid to try to warn people about the lights at the right that are not race start lights but pit lights
but it came out all wrong, hopefully it didn't confuse people too much, watching the timer start is always a safe option on these
add on tracks.

I will fix the minis that are no longer in Gr2, in 3.1 they have moved some cars into sub groups that didn't exist in 3.0
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« Reply #50 on: December 06, 2013, 12:50:16 PM +0000 »

I made the mistake of watching those pit lights at the start of the race, which resulted in an even slower start than normal. Thankfully, it didn't seriously affect my position. As for chat in race, I am used to saying "Sorry" or "Thanks" elsewhere in league races, so my apologies if I did this last night.
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« Reply #51 on: December 06, 2013, 01:23:52 PM +0000 »

It is polite to say Sorry etc, but some people find it very distracting so we encourage silence.
It's not a hanging offence to me, it's just that if you are in mid braking or trying to avoid another car
it's off putting to have messages flash up on your screen. Some people turn off in car chat for that reason.
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« Reply #52 on: December 06, 2013, 01:32:53 PM +0000 »

That seems like a sensible approach Matt. Having witnessed at first hand another league, that was good fun to take part in, slowly have the joy sucked out of it by the constant introduction of rule after rule, your approach is definately the way to go (IMO). 
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« Reply #53 on: December 06, 2013, 02:28:20 PM +0000 »

Yep. My real life racing is going through some rule changes created by well meaning people who are rather missing the point.
I can't do aything about the Gr2/G5 Minis, the Britax is in once as Gr2 and again as Gr5
Alex has kindly produced a list of cars, perhaps we can send it to Dave?
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« Reply #54 on: December 06, 2013, 03:23:12 PM +0000 »

Yeah, only Dave can do Class configuring
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« Reply #55 on: December 06, 2013, 03:25:07 PM +0000 »

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« Reply #56 on: December 06, 2013, 05:03:37 PM +0000 »

First congrats to John on a well deserved championship win. I Am Not Worthy Also well done to all my Kerbies teammates on pinching one of the Soggies cups, well plundered!  Grin

Good race from my point of view. Had a great run in the Alpine, harrying Donato for the first few laps until a mistake at St Mary's let Giuseppe past. Got back into 2nd a few laps later when Giuseppe copied my mistake then had a good battle with him for a few laps until his attempted overtake at Woodcote bumped me onto the grass & I dropped back to 4th behind Federico. The three of us then had a good battle for several laps until both of my opponents got on the grass exiting the chicane & left me in a fairly comfortable 2nd place. Cut Donato's lead a little over the remaining laps but I was never gonna make up the deficit even if the race had been 10 laps longer.

Congrats to Donato on the win & to John in 3rd place. clap clap

Yeah.... tough race!

i didn't thought to be in pole.........so it was a surprise to be first with the Alfa.

Only a good start would gave me a chance to win the race, so for the first laps my concern was to colse every doors to Geoffers, trying to get away in the corner. Twice Geoffers was almost inside, but i've gently colsed him..... laugh Then Geoffers went off in the grass, same thing with Reali and Zecchin.
In the second half of the race a couple of lapped drivers made me lost some seconds on Geoffers, but i've maintained a sufficient gap to win the race.

See u!  Grin
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« Reply #57 on: December 06, 2013, 05:29:08 PM +0000 »

Very funny race!!
In qualy i achieved a very good 4 position.
But during the race, after a couple of laps, i totally lost the concentration.
in 4 laps i went off the grass 2 times and i lost 3 positions.
Finally, my pace arrival.
Beautiful chase with johnw and federico zecchin...but they was faster than me Angry Angry
Finished the race in 5 position.
Is a real pleasure to drive with you mates on tracks...thank you!!
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« Reply #58 on: December 08, 2013, 09:20:40 PM +0000 »

That was about as good as racing gets in my book. Says the bloke that finished 12th laugh

Had some good racing with Mogget & a couple of other drivers, but then enjoyed almost endless laps with Matt. Don't think we could have been much closer at times, but don't think we traded paint once despite being side by side & bumper to bumper through litterally a hundred corners!  sweatdrop Cool

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« Reply #59 on: December 13, 2013, 02:34:46 PM +0000 »

Unfortunately I blev the engine with 4 laps to go.

http://youtu.be/LmCQsCs-6WU

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