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  • S2567F2 Rouen: November 03, 2013
November 03, 2013, 09:38:34 PM +0000 - Rouen (1955-70) - UKGPL Season 25 (2013) Formula 2 Trophy
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
DLogan
 
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 2 +0.339
120.855mph
1 49:24.509
118.499mph
24 2:01.855
120.119mph
Goodyear  
Samb
 Black Night Racing
Lotus 48 GPL F2 4 +1.510
119.698mph
2 +20.796
117.673mph
24 2:02.457
119.529mph
Firestone  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 11 +2.935
118.319mph
3 +48.497
116.591mph
24 2:03.682
118.345mph
Goodyear  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Matra MS7 GPL F2 10 +2.185
119.041mph
4 +51.088
116.491mph
24 2:02.992
119.009mph
Dunlop  
Ronniepeterson
 
Cooper T84 GPL F2 7 +1.984
119.235mph
5 +1:00.405
116.132mph
24 2:02.731
119.262mph
Dunlop  
Dean_0
 
McLaren M4A GPL F2 12 +3.449
117.829mph
6 +1:04.731
115.967mph
24 2:02.376
119.608mph
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Cooper T84 GPL F2 5 +1.549
119.660mph
7 +1:08.924
115.806mph
24 2:02.226
119.754mph
Dunlop  
natan5
 NVRacing
McLaren M4A GPL F2 6 +1.757
119.456mph
8 (+1) +1:17.320
115.487mph
24 2:02.335
119.648mph
Goodyear  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Matra MS7 GPL F2 14 +3.997
117.312mph
9 +1:36.383
114.767mph
24 2:04.854
117.234mph
Dunlop  
Nigel Smith
 Blue Moose Racing
Matra MS7 GPL F2 17 +7.079
114.484mph
10 (+1) +2:03.408
113.763mph
24 2:03.960
118.079mph
Dunlop  
Marco Mercaldo
 Squadra Padova Corse
Matra MS7 GPL F2 8 +2.008
119.212mph
11 +1L
110.950mph
23 2:02.588
119.401mph
Dunlop  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 13 +3.514
117.768mph
12 +10L
114.264mph
14 2:03.572
118.450mph
Disco
Goodyear  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Lola T100 (FVA) GPL F2 9 +2.131
119.093mph
13 +13L
113.238mph
11 2:04.661
117.415mph
Disco
Firestone  
BadBlood
 Blue Moose Racing
Lotus 48 GPL F2 16 +5.503
115.913mph
14 +17L
106.360mph
7 2:13.091
109.978mph
Disco
Firestone  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
McLaren M4A GPL F2 3 +1.382
119.823mph
15 +21L
116.203mph
3 2:03.423
118.593mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Raoni Frizzo
 Team Coyote
Matra MS7 GPL F2 1 2:00.774
121.194mph
16 +3.900
115.016mph
3 2:03.130
118.875mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Arf Arf Arf
 Team Baarf
Matra MS7 GPL F2 15 +5.279
116.119mph
17 +24L
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Disco
Dunlop  
Adam Cooper
 Team Coyote
McLaren M4A GPL F2 18 +10.520
111.483mph
18 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 19 19 ---
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Goodyear  

Moderator's Report

Not much in the Red Zone... plenty of action elsewhere though!
Scerie seemed to be everyone's favourite overtaking spot but it all went wrong on several occasions.


Server replay time: 0h01m03s

Nigel gets out of shape & brushes the kerb on the approach to the hairpin & runs into the back of Rog. Nigel really did carry too much speed but in view of the partial loss of control the penalty can be partially mitigated.


Server replay time: 0h05m55s

Badblood hits a spinning Arf. Not much either could do.


Server replay time: 0h06m54s

Dean0 & Marco battle for the place going into Scerie. Dean has 50% overlap (just) but feels that Marco cut in on him. This comes under the banner of a contested overtake. Either driver could have taken a different approach to avoid the incident.

With such a small overlap Dean didn't have room to make a clean pass without co-operation. Marco could have but a collision became inevitable once he didn't.

Probably better for both drivers to be a little more cautious and leave more room.


Server replay time: 0h08m57s

Phil makes a clean pass but loses some traction by taking a wide line over the grass. Dave should have kept a tighter line to the inside, but not so easy with the cars momentum through the corner. That is part of the art of clean online racing though.

The rules have this: "In a corner, after a legitimate overtaking attempt the cars end up side by side. One driver loses control and strays from their side of the track. Contact is made. Warning for driver that moves over."

A caution suffices for this one.


Server replay time: 0h15m06s

Dean 0 is recovering from a spin & gets overtaken by several cars. Dean correctly keeps to the inside. The last car to pass is Natan - who should have checked his mirrors before cutting back on to the racing line.


Server replay time: 0h23m45s

Ronnie starts to turn in at 23m42s (turn-in is when his car starts to edge towards the yellow dashed line) at which point he is level (i.e. 100% overlap). He should have realised a car would be on his inside and he should have stayed wide. He didn't wait to see the opponent's car in his mirrors before turning in. Contact was not inevitable but because of the overlap this goes down as a Contested Overtake


Server replay time: 0h38m51s

Ronnie & Phil resume their battle, this time through T2. Ronnie has the lead but get slightly sideways in the corner. Phil makes up ground & keeps to the right - partly off track. Ronnie goes straight back to the racing line & has contact with Phil. It can be very difficult in the blindspots but Ronnie (who comes off the worse) could (and should, for a driver of his experience) have shown more awareness.


Server replay time: 0h50m49s

This time it is Ronnie & Dean0 battling on the way into Scerie - and this time Dean does have overlap into the corner but he strays from his side and makes contact. Although Ronnie doesn't hug the kerb he does stay to his side.

As Dean has the overlap to attempt the pass this has to be a contested overtake. This is very similar to the previous incident at 6:54 but the boot is on the other foot!

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Grand Prix Legends
GPL F2
2:00.774
121.185mph
Raoni Frizzo
Qualifying
Matra MS7November 03, 2013, 09:38:34 PM +0000
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« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2013, 05:44:47 PM +0000 »

Not sure if you have seen this thread Sam.    https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=11940.0   .

Hidden in there are some links to basic setup technology which you might find useful. Although why the heck I am telling you this when you are obviously an alien in sheeps clothing is beyond me !!!  Undecided

Not sure how I missed that thread Clive. Thanks for the heads up  Smiley. Throughout racing in UKGPL, I have been guilty of using other people's setups with minimal tweaks, primarily due to laziness on my part. That's fine for the 67s but can't quite get away with it for the F2s. Perhaps it's time I had a go at messing around with the bump/rebound settings, that's what I'm usually scared of changing. Cheat sheets at the ready  Wink.
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« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2013, 05:32:08 PM +0000 »

Some idea of the handicapping for the next race this Sunday will be greatly appreciated.
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« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2013, 10:14:19 PM +0000 »

Ronnie,
Handicap for the Lights will be as per the series registration rules, but only for the top 3 drivers. As follows;

Handicaps will be limited to the top 3 drivers in the Championship.
Group I - Ferrari or BT14 = 1st place driver if 30 points ahead
Group II - Cooper = 1st place driver, less than 30 points ahead. Or 2nd place or 3rd place if 30 points ahead
Group III - Either Lotus or either Lola = 2nd & 3rd if less than 30 points ahead
Drivers below fifth place will not be handicapped.

For Vallelunga - Ronnie = Group II, Evil & Dean Logan = Group III
Vallelunga, Bikerneiki & Zandvoort the handicaps will not be so significant. Last race at Monza will be a free choice.

The Heavy division is quite small & as we are running on a mixed grid it will be a free choice of chassis.
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« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2013, 10:14:00 PM +0000 »

Mod report published.
Sorry for the delay - there was much to look at.
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