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  • S2567F2 Bikerneiki: December 01, 2013
December 01, 2013, 09:36:26 PM +0000 - Biķernieku (Long) - UKGPL Season 25 (2013) Formula 2 Trophy
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 1 1:21.908
100.026mph
1 39:15.943
97.371mph
28 1:22.294
99.557mph
Goodyear  
Piero Mercaldo
 Squadra Padova Corse
Matra MS7 GPL F2 4 +1.149
98.642mph
2 +20.863
96.517mph
28 1:23.092
98.600mph
Dunlop  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 7 +1.710
97.980mph
3 +26.976
96.269mph
28 1:23.625
97.972mph
Goodyear  
DLogan
 
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 6 +1.698
97.994mph
4 +37.907
95.830mph
28 1:22.999
98.711mph
Goodyear  
Roberto Teso
 Squadra Padova Corse
Matra MS7 GPL F2 2 +0.407
99.531mph
5 +55.403
95.134mph
28 1:22.413
99.413mph
Dunlop  
Samb
 Black Night Racing
Matra MS7 GPL F2 8 +1.899
97.759mph
6 +1:09.907
94.565mph
28 1:23.296
98.359mph
Dunlop  
Marco Mercaldo
 Squadra Padova Corse
Lola T100 (BMW) GPL F2 10 +2.179
97.434mph
7 +1:19.742
94.184mph
28 1:24.792
96.624mph
Dunlop  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Matra MS7 GPL F2 14 +5.487
93.746mph
8 +1L
93.374mph
27 1:26.065
95.194mph
Dunlop  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 13 +5.211
94.043mph
9 +1:13.634
90.559mph
27 1:27.247
93.905mph
Goodyear  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Matra MS7 GPL F2 11 +2.252
97.349mph
10 +16L
92.850mph
12 1:24.701
96.727mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Ronniepeterson
 
Lola T100 (FVA) GPL F2 3 +0.488
99.433mph
11 (+2) +21L
92.396mph
7 1:23.656
97.936mph
Disco
Firestone  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
Lola T100 (BMW) GPL F2 9 +2.066
97.565mph
12 +25L
91.890mph
3 1:25.033
96.350mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
McLaren M4A GPL F2 12 +2.661
96.878mph
13 (+3) +26L
81.112mph
2 1:36.895
84.555mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Raoni Frizzo
 Team Coyote
McLaren M4A GPL F2 5 +1.290
98.475mph
14 +27L
80.592mph
1 1:38.845
82.886mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Arf Arf Arf
 Team Baarf
Matra MS7 GPL F2 15 +5.599
93.626mph
15 DNS ---
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Dunlop  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 16 16 ---
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Goodyear  

Moderator's Report

A busy grid on quite a tight circuit. Evil makes the best job of it taking a win from pole.


Server replay time: 0h00m59s

Cookie runs into the back end of Marco. Given Cookie's comparative speed to the other cars there is little mitigation.


Server replay time: 0h01m03s

Ronnie has the inside line at Turn 2 and gets ahead of Roberto but he hasn't completed the pass before Turn 3. Ronnie takes the racing line for Turn 3 and squeezes Roberto to the extent that he is half off the track. Contact is made and both cars spin out.
Simple Side by Side - "In a corner, after a legitimate overtaking attempt the cars end up side by side. One driver moves over instead of staying on their own side of the track. Contact is made. Penalty for driver that moves over."


Server replay time: 0h01m07s

Reacting to the earlier incident Dean spins across Sam's nose, taking out both cars.


Server replay time: 0h09m29s

Ronnie is chasing Dean across the S/F line. At this point the server replay is very disjointed & has to go down as a bad warp intervention. Deans' car is flipped & he takes a SnG.
Racing Incident

  • Racing incident

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Grand Prix Legends
GPL F2
1:21.908
100.026mph
EvilClive
Qualifying
Brabham BT23December 01, 2013, 09:36:26 PM +0000
S2567F2
Grand Prix Legends
GPL F2
1:22.294
99.557mph
EvilClive
Race
Brabham BT23December 01, 2013, 09:36:26 PM +0000
S2567F2
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« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2013, 04:29:38 PM +0000 »

Mod report published.
1/ I know it is out of sequence - the others will follow soon.
2/ Bikerneiki is not showing in the championship table - will get that sorted out.


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I have to say on this one I disagree totally. There simply was no pass. I was ahead and Roberto goes for a gap which does not exist. At no point do I move over as I don't need to, I am just driving on the racing line when I get hit.

While I respect the decision of the moderator, I give in, the F2 series is all yours this season. Good luck Clive, Sam and Dean.
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« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2013, 08:38:25 PM +0000 »

Ronnie,
Have you looked at the replay from the overhead view?  You have to be fully past your opponent before you can resume the racing line.

These screenshots show what I mean.

Overhead view before contact
Roberto view before contact
Ronnie view before contact
Overhead view at contact

In order to cut back in after an overtake you have to be able to see your opponent in your mirrors.  These shots show the same thing but from the perspective of a driver being overtaken.  However the first screenshot illustrates the point.  In order to be far enough ahead to be able to move across without risking hitting your opponent's nose you must be able to see him in your mirrors.

Car Behind - No Overlap



0% Overlap



50% Overlap



100% Overlap



Over 100% Overlap.  Cars starting to turn in (see orientation of white line).

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« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2013, 09:31:35 PM +0000 »


No overtake, no move over. I'm just on the racing line four wheels ahead?Huh
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« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2013, 09:35:20 PM +0000 »


No overtake, no move over. I'm just on the racing line four wheels ahead?Huh

No, you're not. If you were really ahead, there would have been no contact. Ergo...
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« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2013, 09:39:22 PM +0000 »

Hey guys chill. Its just my opinion. I did not hit Roberto he hit me in my view. I respect and accept the moderators verdict. I'm not appealing or anything. Move on I have.
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« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2013, 07:02:59 PM +0000 »

Move on I have.
We have but please remember the moderators are very consistent in their decision making.  Any similar incidents in the future are likely to be viewed in the same way.
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« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2013, 08:27:40 PM +0000 »

Message understood the mods verdict is the only one that counts and I agree that's how it should be.

However, it still does not change my opinion that on this occasion Roberto screws up the first corner big time (too fast, too deep, off-line) while I got it spot on (perfect speed, braking, entry and exit) all on the racing line never to leave it until he hits me (nice overhead shot of that moment by the way). I find GPLRA invaluable to review the difference between getting it right and getting it wrong.

But to repeat, message understood the mods verdict is the only one that counts and I agree that's how it should be.

Signing off for this season but I will be back next time.
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