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December 15, 2013, 09:39:01 PM +0000 - Monza (GP 1955-71) - UKGPL Season 25 (2013) Formula 2 Trophy
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Piero Mercaldo
 Squadra Padova Corse
Matra MS7 GPL F2 1 1:34.258
136.474mph
1 40:07.174
133.598mph
25 1:34.002
136.846mph
Dunlop  
Raoni Frizzo
 Team Coyote
Matra MS7 GPL F2 3 +0.312
136.024mph
2 +0.129
133.591mph
25 1:34.248
136.489mph
Dunlop  
DLogan
 
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 11 +1.415
134.456mph
3 +5.918
133.271mph
25 1:35.049
135.338mph
Goodyear  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Matra MS7 GPL F2 9 +1.318
134.592mph
4 +26.151
132.162mph
25 1:35.333
134.935mph
Dunlop  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Matra MS7 GPL F2 14 +1.590
134.210mph
5 +34.520
131.709mph
25 1:35.951
134.066mph
Dunlop  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 6 +0.533
135.707mph
6 +37.389
131.555mph
25 1:34.719
135.810mph
Goodyear  
Arf Arf Arf
 Team Baarf
Matra MS7 GPL F2 10 +1.354
134.541mph
7 +37.624
131.542mph
25 1:34.769
135.738mph
Dunlop  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
Lola T100 (BMW) GPL F2 12 +1.446
134.412mph
8 +38.448
131.498mph
25 1:35.004
135.402mph
Dunlop  
Roberto Teso
 Squadra Padova Corse
Matra MS7 GPL F2 4 +0.393
135.907mph
9 +52.199
130.763mph
25 1:34.200
136.558mph
Dunlop  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Matra MS7 GPL F2 19 +6.686
127.435mph
10 +1:03.841
130.147mph
25 1:36.574
133.201mph
Dunlop  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 16 +2.474
132.984mph
11 +1:04.031
130.137mph
25 1:35.794
134.286mph
Goodyear  
BadBlood
 Blue Moose Racing
Protos 16 (FVA) GPL F2 18 +3.185
132.013mph
12 +1:28.053
128.884mph
25 1:37.323
132.176mph
Firestone  
natan5
 NVRacing
McLaren M4A GPL F2 13 +1.569
134.239mph
13 +1:34.172
128.568mph
25 1:36.588
133.182mph
Goodyear  
Marco Mercaldo
 Squadra Padova Corse
Matra MS7 GPL F2 2 +0.205
136.178mph
14 +5L
127.013mph
20 1:34.976
135.442mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 17 +2.581
132.837mph
15 +8L
131.100mph
17 1:35.821
134.248mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Robert Fleurke
 
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 5 +0.455
135.818mph
16 +13L
131.839mph
12 1:34.118
136.677mph
Disco
Goodyear  
s2173
 Team7
Protos 16 (FVA) GPL F2 15 +2.311
133.208mph
17 +17L
125.388mph
8 1:36.243
133.659mph
Disco
Firestone  
Samb
 Black Night Racing
Matra MS7 GPL F2 7 +0.649
135.541mph
18 +21L
122.521mph
4 1:35.395
134.847mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Matra MS5 GPL F2 8 +0.782
135.351mph
19 +22L
118.457mph
3 1:35.166
135.172mph
Disco
Dunlop  
2 GamesclanT7
 
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 20 20 DNS ---
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Goodyear  

Moderator's Report

Only one incident of note in the Red Zone. It does take half the field out though!

As Arf^3 slows for Curva Grande, Cookie goes round him but maintains a line just off ideal. As Colin's car drifts out they just get too close and touch. GPL applies one of its less realistic crash models and mayhem results.

Cookie could, perhaps have left a touch more room but it was reasonable to expect that both could get through on the lines they took.

It also takes out six other drivers with Dave, Phil and Evil (using all his sideways skills and a bunch of armco) managing to sneak through. Nobody else has enough time to react.


Server replay time: 0h12m09s

As evilclive enters Parabolica, he comes across across a slow-travelling Dean who is recovering from a spin but has taken the middle of the track. Evil backs off too suddenly which causes the car to fishtail wildly. After losing control Natan gets caught up in the problem and the contact put both cars upside down.

This is unfortunate. Dean could have helped by pulling away from the racing line more until he was up to speed but he is not on the racing line - if several cars had not been racing this incident would not have happened.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Grand Prix Legends
GPL F2
1:34.258
136.474mph
Piero Mercaldo
Qualifying
Matra MS7December 15, 2013, 09:39:01 PM +0000
S2567F2
Grand Prix Legends
GPL F2
1:34.002
136.846mph
Piero Mercaldo
Race
Matra MS7December 15, 2013, 09:39:01 PM +0000
S2567F2
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« on: December 12, 2013, 09:51:44 PM +0000 »

THIS POST IS FOR THE LIGHT & HEAVY RACES
Round nine of the race of the Formula 2 championship will be at Monza, a Papyrus original & one of the true classic circuits. Monza was due to be race 10 but the Zandvoort was rescheduled & will be run 7 days after Monza – mark your diaries. (Just to confirm that GPL is a proper sport we won’t be having any stupid rules like double points for the last race).

The Championship Table can be found here F2 Trophy .  Both Heavy & Lights division will run as a mixed grid.
No handicaps apply everyone has a free choice of chassis.

A maximum of one reset is allowed per race & must be followed by a compulsory Stop & Go in the pit lane within two laps of the Reset. If you Reset on the last lap & cannot take a Stop & Go a 15 second time penalty will be awarded.

Incidents should be reported in the usual way.
In line with other divisions the races will be subject to full moderation in the red zone which will be up to the exit of the second Lesmo turn. The Moderator may chose to investigate any other incident, in addition to reported incidents & red zone incidents.

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL7  
Race date = Sunday 15-12-2013
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track = Monza
Race length = 25 laps
Variant = 1967 Formula 2
Damage Model = Intermediate
Qualifying time = minimum of 30 minutes
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« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2013, 11:27:43 PM +0000 »

Hi guys,

just want to say hi to the F2 Trophy drivers. I'm Rob, from Groningen, the Netherlands; do have a vast experience racing online, but not in the last 6 1/2 years. So, being a bit rusty, I will take the Cooper to be sure not to interfere with the championship contenders (BT14 is just too slow), if there's a spot in the race being reserve.

Have tried to meet some drivers on the track, hosting a few Monza sessions, but not much activity. Missed Marco when he went on my local server. Thanks to Gareth for answering questions in #ukgpl, and thanks to Billy to allow me to join the last 2 races as a reserve.  Smiley

I'm familiar with the rules and GPL's (n)etiquette and all set to go. Also I'm prepared to stay in your draft if and when I can hold it  Grin Looking forward to meet you all off and on the track to have some fun  Cool

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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2013, 02:55:32 AM +0000 »

Welcome, Rob!  Smiley

CYA on track soon!

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« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2013, 09:11:57 AM +0000 »

Welcome Robert. I hope you enjoy the racing and the fun.

You are right about the BT14 ( and the Ferrari!) they are significantly slower than the rest. The Cooper is the next step up the performance ladder and after that there are not any big differences, although I think that the Matras are generally considered as the quickest cars. But with draft around Monza it will be difficult for any car to get away.

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« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2013, 11:19:17 AM +0000 »

Holy Smokes!  CLIVE!  I just checked the Team standings a moment ago.  Blue Moose is P2 in the standings and not THAT FAR off the lead?  You can count on me to be at my best in the remaining two rounds.  Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2013, 12:23:52 PM +0000 »

Holy Smokes!  CLIVE!  I just checked the Team standings a moment ago.  Blue Moose is P2 in the standings and not THAT FAR off the lead?  You can count on me to be at my best in the remaining two rounds.  Smiley

Indeed! what we may lack in numbers compared to the other teams, we will make up in quality!!................perhaps??!!  Roll Eyes. So a plan to produce a guaranteed  1 - 2  finish would be good Doni. lol shifty
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« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2013, 02:42:42 PM +0000 »

T7 server is set for 25 laps Long race and listening on Igor in Consolle session with OpenGL_V2.
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« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2013, 09:46:25 PM +0000 »

Two disconnections in two races.........
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« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2013, 10:23:00 PM +0000 »

Had a pretty exciting race.  Great dice with David and Roberto until David was discoed (I think).  Then had to hang on for the last few laps, the evil one was closing me down!
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« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2013, 10:25:41 PM +0000 »

...being a bit rusty...

Didn't have a good drafting lap in quali, but was happy to be in P5. Had a great start and went to P2 before Curva Grande, but sadly outbraked myself first in the first Lesmo, and then on the outside  on cold tires in Parabolica when a few Matra's tried to pass, in lap 1  Lips Sealed

Then it was a matter to try to climb up, and it looked like Clive would lead the way, until he ran into problems I think. Caught up with Dean, but hit the curb in Curva Grande and went into the wall...could get back to Dean, and we changed positions for a while until he hit the curb in Parabolica trying to hold his inside line, and I think together with a bit of warp his left rear hit my right front and I went (didn't get stuck) into the hedges. Just a racing incident I guess...

As I refuse to use shift-r, (in hindsight I should have driven out of the hedges, there seemed to be no damage according to mechanical report, but in my mind the engine was gone as the sound was gone Undecided) I decided to retire. Was fun until it lasted, a bit disappointed with myself for the (stupid) mistakes though....should have taken the Cooper after all as I didn't have enough laps with the BT23, and my 5th gear seemed to be too long (edit: it seemed to be too short even...only ran F2 for 2 weeks, and yet have to learn it's secrets, like max torque and optimal shifting revs and such)...ah well, lessons learnt Wink

Looking forward to Zandy, my hometrack, very technical but beautiful track, and hope to have a clean race  Smiley Thanks all for racing and congrats to Piero and podium, well done to the finishers! Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2013, 11:06:00 PM +0000 »

I got a good start and jumped a few people as we headed down to T1. Coming into the corner I stayed tight on the inside and backed off just a tad to ensure I didn't rear end anyone. That unfortunately allowed Cookie to come up on me on the outside, and in my blind spot. We touched as we left T1, and the resulting shunt looks to have taken about 7 cars out.....Sorry for my part in that, but I had no idea Cookie was there. I have watched the replay, and for the entire duration of the corner right up until he appears beside my left tyre a nano second before the shunt I could not see him in my mirrors......

That, and an off on cold brakes the next lap must have left me dead last, but I could see a pack of cars ahead, and I slowly pulled them in. On Lap 9 I saw Clive exit the pits, presumably after a Shift+R, and wasn't surprised to see him right behind me soon after. I thought he'd pass me and disappear, but it turns out we weren't to be split by more than 100ft for the rest of the race. It was really good fun constantly drafting each other and watching for cheeky outbrakings at some corners. We started off fighting for P15 but a combination of others' misfortune and us helping each other along allowed us to catch lots of car and pass. I think Clive could see I was cautious entering Parabolica and regularly overtook me there, although I could get past on the main straight. If only I'd blocked him there on the last lap I might have bagged P6 instead of P7!!

Anyway, good fun Clive, thanks

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« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2013, 11:13:37 PM +0000 »

Well, the inevitable T1 shunt came as expected and I nearly avoided it all but found myself launched but after a few seconds spinning found myself round the corner and point at Lesmo 1.

12th. Nice. Tried to keep it nice and steady and it was all OK for a while. Had a short battle with David until a small mistake at Lesmo 1 lost me the draft and then battled with Natan who was easy to pass due to his lower top speed. That was fun and it was going well until Arf and Evil caught me. Colin made a tight pass into Curva Grande which made it difficult for me to judge the braking point - wanted to keep wide for Clive and ended up riding the rails... survived only to have a horrible spin at Lesmo trying to keep out of the way. That put me dead last but close to Bill. Was looking forward to a race with him which lasted until Parabolica when I just carried too much speed under draft and went wide. A trip to the beach late I was a long way back. Natan was 700 yards ahead but catchable as he was down on top line speed. Chased him again and caught him again. Candy from the baby on the start/finish straight and then neat and tidy until the finish.

Good fun overall and no major errors although I should have managed to finish a half a minute quicker than I did....
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« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2013, 01:45:53 AM +0000 »

The overwhelming and lasting impression that I'll take away from this event is one of utter dismay at the driving tactics of some members.  One, in particular, cost me a chance at a run for a podium slot.  Another clubbed me over the wall at Lesmo1 on Lap5 and doesn't even deign to mention it in a post above.  It's especially galling as this individual is driving for the lead team in the F2 championship hunt and my team is trying to catch them.  Grrr...

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« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2013, 10:44:30 AM +0000 »

Doni – please use the incident reports system. It won’t restore your chance of podium but the penalty system can rebalance the points.

As a general issue an apology to Maddog, who posted a very respectable time (3rd in Qually at the time) but withdrew due to an overflowing grid. The driver entries are very skewed towards the Lights – most events we have only had about 4 Heavy drivers & one server has been enough.
The final race is at Zandvoort next Sunday – to make room we will run this as two grids so I hope the Heavy drivers will turn up in force.

Monza can be fun & I had a really good dice with Rog – actually two separate contests due to me looking at Prib rather than my braking point into Parabolica about half way through. That put me about 10 secs behind Rog & took until the last lap work myself into a position to get a decent tow – into the Parabolica side by side – Rog had a better line & held on to 10th place. As has been said before a few laps close is great fun whether you are at the front, middle order or the back.
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« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2013, 12:44:00 PM +0000 »

Have to Thank Maddog for my race, in igor looking at a full server then the join button came on with 3 mins left. Last place on grid but had a good start, nudged into rails at curve grand, then kicked again at crash at della roggia, lucky car came out ok, had some good racing with Billy laps 8 to 12 then he lost it at parabolica, he caught up with me again on last lap but i just managed to cross the finish line ahead.
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