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January 07, 2014, 09:36:02 PM +0000 - Borovaya (Borovaya) - UKGPL Season 26 (2014)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Tom van Ostade
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 16 +3.913
107.703mph
1 40:56.051
110.110mph
30 1:19.636
113.197mph
Firestone  
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 Antipasti Racing
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 4 +0.389
112.437mph
2 +2.240
110.010mph
30 1:20.127
112.503mph
Firestone  
Mark Jones
 
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 2 +0.097
112.848mph
3 +2.648
109.991mph
30 1:19.304
113.670mph
Goodyear  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 13 +1.607
110.754mph
4 +46.660
108.057mph
30 1:20.897
111.432mph
Firestone  
AnGex
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 12 +1.488
110.917mph
5 +46.700
108.055mph
30 1:20.806
111.558mph
Firestone  
Renato Jungle-67
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 7 +1.108
111.438mph
6 +1L
106.166mph
29 1:20.626
111.807mph
Firestone  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 8 +1.213
111.293mph
7 +33.398
104.745mph
29 1:20.731
111.661mph
Goodyear  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 15 +3.219
108.603mph
8 +51.519
103.990mph
29 1:22.501
109.266mph
Goodyear  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 20 9 +2L
100.748mph
28 1:21.616
110.450mph
Firestone  
Flow
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 9 +1.261
111.227mph
10 +13L
106.031mph
17 1:19.726
113.069mph
Disco
Firestone  
DLogan
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 5 +0.764
111.914mph
11 +9.265
105.356mph
17 1:20.405
112.114mph
Disco
Firestone  
Turkey Machine
 HikiWazaRacing
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 10 +1.304
111.168mph
12 +17L
103.113mph
13 1:20.610
111.829mph
suspension
Goodyear  
Robert Fleurke
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 3 +0.163
112.755mph
13 +18L
106.255mph
12 1:21.235
110.968mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 17 +4.369
107.119mph
14 +1:44.737
96.343mph
12 1:22.736
108.955mph
Disco
Firestone  
Pedro vd Berg
 7Porsche7
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 18 +9.872
100.545mph
15 +19L
108.048mph
11 1:19.755
113.028mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Arf Arf Arf
 Team Baarf
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 1 1:19.785
112.985mph
16 +1:28.006
98.594mph
11 1:20.791
111.578mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Gareth
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 14 +1.625
110.730mph
17 +1:54.901
96.026mph
11 1:23.017
108.586mph
Disco
Firestone  
Raoni Frizzo
 Team Coyote
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 6 +0.955
111.649mph
18 +29L
99.499mph
1 1:34.489
95.403mph
Disco
Firestone  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 11 +1.354
111.100mph
19 +2.501
96.826mph
1 1:34.137
95.760mph
unknown
Firestone  
UKGPL 3
 
BRM P115 F1 1967 19 20 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
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« on: January 03, 2014, 10:48:38 PM +0000 »

This is a new track to UKGPL and we would like to run a round of the Graduates on it. This is just a stability test.

So, Borovaya, a real track near Minsk in Belarus.

The Short Minsk Ring was opened in 1962. The circuit is situated northeast of Minsk, near Skopishe-second village. On a map the track resembled a triangle; two south sides went along old Zaslavskoe highway, which turned to the south near the village, and the north side ran along a new post-war section of this highway. The length of the track was 2850 meters. The track doesn't have any fences or walls around it, but some areas are marked by wooden landmarks or piles of tires.

Borovaya is located in a hilly region, so the track has huge altitude differences for a such short length around 18 meters!

This race is just for fun so no passwords or modding. Invite you non-UKGPL mates as well. Just a warm up for Sunday night. Unlimited Shift-R with no Stop n Go BUT we do expect gentlemanly behaviour!

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Server = UKGPL3
Race date = Tuesday 07-01-2014
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track = Borovaya
Race length = 30 Laps
Variant = 1967
Damage Model = Intermediate
Qualifying time = 30 minutes
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« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2014, 01:02:55 PM +0000 »

There is a corner that is tempting to run wide on the exit. Should I practice keeping at least two wheels on the "track?" or is it acceptable to run wide here? Thanks in advance, WC

On a separate note, I have already crashed enough in the braking zone for turn 4 to make me decide to turn the damage off while I make set-up changes to the car.
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« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2014, 03:02:24 PM +0000 »

You can run as wide as you like but if all four wheels go off the grey stuff then you are re-joining. Two wheels on is just fine. Which corner are you talking about? The king down the back straight?
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« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2014, 04:12:49 PM +0000 »

Will show up, have ran a few laps just ago. Between T2 and T3 there's some extra asphalt, and it's beneficial in order to run faster through T2 and T3. Even when you're not aiming to use it, you will, on purpose or not Tongue

Also the tires on the sides of the track are very gluey, you'll get stuck in a minute there.
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« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2014, 12:39:06 AM +0000 »

Was going to give this one a miss but after sorting out a set-up for the Santa v Elves race I thought I'd download Borovaya.
Out of interest I tried the Cooper - not something I drive regularly & really struggled. Experiment over - back to Brabham machinery. Worked out the brake points etc & finally put in a 1.23. Is that reasonable? Don't mind being at the back but don't want to be miserably off the pace?


  
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« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2014, 12:43:02 AM +0000 »

LOL - I was quite pleased with my 1:24 in the Brabham....
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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2014, 12:59:32 AM +0000 »

Just tried again and couldn't better a 1:26... Sad
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« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2014, 01:17:25 AM +0000 »

A racepace of 1m20-1m25 would be respectable IMO, when you run consistently in a bracket, also depending on your chassis. Did some laps in the Ferrari with a Glen setup and ran a few 21s, but I guess there's more to come. Looks like a tricky track where you can easily overshoot the braking and corners and then get stuck in the tires. Not sure yet if I take the Ferrari, the Brabham or the Cooper. Wink
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« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2014, 04:41:14 PM +0000 »

How the hell do you do a 1:21? What are the splits... I am not making any mistakes and only just holding it on the corners and I am struggling to better 1:26. I know that I am probably braking too late and missing the apexes but even so... sheesh.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2014, 05:26:10 PM +0000 »

How the hell do you do a 1:21? What are the splits... I am not making any mistakes and only just holding it on the corners and I am struggling to better 1:26. I know that I am probably braking too late and missing the apexes but even so... sheesh.  Roll Eyes

Sorry Paul, was my first encounter with this track yesterday and didn't save replay. Just focus on your exit speed, it isn't important to brake that late or enter the corner (too) fast. Hit the apex' (early) and try to get on the throttle as soon as possible, but be smooth and focus on your lines.

I'll do more testing here tomorrow and will upload a replay lap (and a setup) if it helps. Wink

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« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2014, 04:42:33 PM +0000 »

Went to the Brabham, and made some tweaks to the setup. Adjust steering lock, brakebias and diff settings to your own liking. Never use 1st gear in the brab. Start in 2nd, and slow corners in 2nd. Plenty torque so shortshift to prevent wheelspin. Be really gentle on the throttle and braking. My tires weren't even green in my fast lap.

Track has got a rhythm to it, but it's tight and bumpy, you run wide between t2-t3, and little mistakes will glue you to the tires at the sides of the track...also can't get heat in the tires so handling stays slippery...TBH I'm not too fond of it eyeing leagueracing, but that's why we are testing it tomorrow I guess...Wink

http://www.simracing.nl/uploads/RobertFleurke/rf_borovaya_7924_brab.zip

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« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2014, 06:35:11 PM +0000 »

TBH I'm not too fond of it eyeing leagueracing, but that's why we are testing it tomorrow I guess...Wink
Yes I am with you, this track seems technically ok but its boring for 67s F1, maybe better for F2. It's like the Norisring... 

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« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2014, 07:18:42 PM +0000 »

This track is madness for 67s. It will be carnage, and a moderator's nightmare!! It is too tight, T1 will be an overbraking nightmare, and there appear to be too many different ways of getting through it which will also cause chaos  Grin

I don't think anyone using the extra tarmac will 'rejoin' on top of someone, because of the speed advantage you get, but surely it is illegal to use it (4 wheels over the line) every lap?
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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2014, 07:59:09 PM +0000 »

I don't think anyone using the extra tarmac will 'rejoin' on top of someone, because of the speed advantage you get, but surely it is illegal to use it (4 wheels over the line) every lap?

The way I see it is they did put that asphalt for a reason, i.e. approaching t2-t3 as one long sweeping corner. The trackmakers knew ppl would run wide there. If it wasn't meant to be used they should have put an armco or tires to mark the side of the track. To me it's almost impossible to stay with 2 left tires to the left of the white line that marks the "legal" track, t2 tightens that much. It happens now and then but mostly 4 tires over the white line. You don't cut the track, you use more meters, however you prolly gain a few tenths.

According the rules it's prolly illegal, using parts that don't define the track (4 tires over white line). But if it was up to me, I would declare the extra asphalt legal to save trouble...ppl will simply run wide most of the times...
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« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2014, 08:19:56 PM +0000 »

Robert. I don't disagree with your thoughts**, but ...
1. The white line was put there for a reason
2. If the 'run off' area wasn't there, you'd have no choice but to take the corner 'properly'
3. ** one disagreement. This is a track made out of real roads. The run off area wasn't 'put there', it was already there and they chose not to use it.

In my experience it is really difficult to keep 2 wheels legal, but it can be done (and with a 1:20 laptime), but to do it consistently....no chance, esp if someone is chasing you and you want to keep them behind....as I said, this will be a moderation nightmare.....

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