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December 15, 2013, 09:39:01 PM +0000 - Monza (GP 1955-71) - UKGPL Season 25 (2013) Formula 2 Trophy
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Piero Mercaldo
 Squadra Padova Corse
Matra MS7 GPL F2 1 1:34.258
136.474mph
1 40:07.174
133.598mph
25 1:34.002
136.846mph
Dunlop  
Raoni Frizzo
 Team Coyote
Matra MS7 GPL F2 3 +0.312
136.024mph
2 +0.129
133.591mph
25 1:34.248
136.489mph
Dunlop  
DLogan
 
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 11 +1.415
134.456mph
3 +5.918
133.271mph
25 1:35.049
135.338mph
Goodyear  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Matra MS7 GPL F2 9 +1.318
134.592mph
4 +26.151
132.162mph
25 1:35.333
134.935mph
Dunlop  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Matra MS7 GPL F2 14 +1.590
134.210mph
5 +34.520
131.709mph
25 1:35.951
134.066mph
Dunlop  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 6 +0.533
135.707mph
6 +37.389
131.555mph
25 1:34.719
135.810mph
Goodyear  
Arf Arf Arf
 Team Baarf
Matra MS7 GPL F2 10 +1.354
134.541mph
7 +37.624
131.542mph
25 1:34.769
135.738mph
Dunlop  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
Lola T100 (BMW) GPL F2 12 +1.446
134.412mph
8 +38.448
131.498mph
25 1:35.004
135.402mph
Dunlop  
Roberto Teso
 Squadra Padova Corse
Matra MS7 GPL F2 4 +0.393
135.907mph
9 +52.199
130.763mph
25 1:34.200
136.558mph
Dunlop  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Matra MS7 GPL F2 19 +6.686
127.435mph
10 +1:03.841
130.147mph
25 1:36.574
133.201mph
Dunlop  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 16 +2.474
132.984mph
11 +1:04.031
130.137mph
25 1:35.794
134.286mph
Goodyear  
BadBlood
 Blue Moose Racing
Protos 16 (FVA) GPL F2 18 +3.185
132.013mph
12 +1:28.053
128.884mph
25 1:37.323
132.176mph
Firestone  
natan5
 NVRacing
McLaren M4A GPL F2 13 +1.569
134.239mph
13 +1:34.172
128.568mph
25 1:36.588
133.182mph
Goodyear  
Marco Mercaldo
 Squadra Padova Corse
Matra MS7 GPL F2 2 +0.205
136.178mph
14 +5L
127.013mph
20 1:34.976
135.442mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 17 +2.581
132.837mph
15 +8L
131.100mph
17 1:35.821
134.248mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Robert Fleurke
 
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 5 +0.455
135.818mph
16 +13L
131.839mph
12 1:34.118
136.677mph
Disco
Goodyear  
s2173
 Team7
Protos 16 (FVA) GPL F2 15 +2.311
133.208mph
17 +17L
125.388mph
8 1:36.243
133.659mph
Disco
Firestone  
Samb
 Black Night Racing
Matra MS7 GPL F2 7 +0.649
135.541mph
18 +21L
122.521mph
4 1:35.395
134.847mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Matra MS5 GPL F2 8 +0.782
135.351mph
19 +22L
118.457mph
3 1:35.166
135.172mph
Disco
Dunlop  
2 GamesclanT7
 
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 20 20 DNS ---
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Goodyear  

Moderator's Report

Only one incident of note in the Red Zone. It does take half the field out though!

As Arf^3 slows for Curva Grande, Cookie goes round him but maintains a line just off ideal. As Colin's car drifts out they just get too close and touch. GPL applies one of its less realistic crash models and mayhem results.

Cookie could, perhaps have left a touch more room but it was reasonable to expect that both could get through on the lines they took.

It also takes out six other drivers with Dave, Phil and Evil (using all his sideways skills and a bunch of armco) managing to sneak through. Nobody else has enough time to react.


Server replay time: 0h12m09s

As evilclive enters Parabolica, he comes across across a slow-travelling Dean who is recovering from a spin but has taken the middle of the track. Evil backs off too suddenly which causes the car to fishtail wildly. After losing control Natan gets caught up in the problem and the contact put both cars upside down.

This is unfortunate. Dean could have helped by pulling away from the racing line more until he was up to speed but he is not on the racing line - if several cars had not been racing this incident would not have happened.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Grand Prix Legends
GPL F2
1:34.258
136.474mph
Piero Mercaldo
Qualifying
Matra MS7December 15, 2013, 09:39:01 PM +0000
S2567F2
Grand Prix Legends
GPL F2
1:34.002
136.846mph
Piero Mercaldo
Race
Matra MS7December 15, 2013, 09:39:01 PM +0000
S2567F2
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« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2013, 01:23:23 PM +0000 »

I maybe should have used a Matra here, their top speed does make a big difference around Monza, but what the heck! I like a challenge!!

I also figured that provided that I had the right gearing I would be able to draft along behind any faster cars anyway.

6th on the grid did not particularly bother me, although once you are in the pack there is always the chance of becoming involved in other drivers misfortunes. I got a good start and closed rapidly on Robert Teso, who appeared to bog down slightly. I looked for a space but as I went for the outside he eased back across and I had to put a couple of wheels on the grass to avoid him. No complaints from me, that is racing.
But my lift allowed just about everyone to stream pass before Curve Grande...Rats!!

Then I seem to recall a punt up the rear which dropped me further back, before the T1 "incident" which regained me a few places. Gradually I hauled myself back up through the field and by lap 8 was beginning to think I might get close to the front if I could just keep getting the tow from other cars. My Brab was definitely quicker through the Lesmos and into Parabolica than most other drivers which helped me get into the "zone" for a tow.
I had just passed Natan on the approach to Para when I saw yellow flags and a couple of cars definitely NOT where you would expect them to be. i took the inside line into Para and had just poured on the gas for the wide line around the exit before I realised that the car in front was going much slower than me AND right across the path that my Brabham was expecting to take. I backed off but it totally upset the balance of the car and I got into a tank slapper that I just could not hold  Undecided. Normally i would have opted to go wide and risk the grass and gravel, but I could not control the direction of the car.
I missed that slow moving car, but it seems that Natan was caught out by my wildly fishtailing car and we both ended upside down.

Apologies to Natan for inadvertantly involving him in my accident, but once I lifted off the gas the car had a mind and direction of its own.
I used the S/R and then a SnG , which dropped me waaaay back down the field. The rest of the race was fun as I caught Colin and his ruddy "too fast" Matra. For the rest of the race it was a cat and mouse game of slipstreaming and late braking as we hauled in and passed several other cars until it became obvious that we were disputing 6th and 7th.
I had already tested the demon last lap move into Parabolica several laps earlier and knew that if could lead into the bend I could just hold off that Matra to the line....but only just!!! So I had to be sure that Colin had the lead exiting Lesmos and that I was set for a draft pass into Parabolica. Well it all worked like a charm  Grin and I stole 6th place from a very quick Colin.

Grats to the podium and all the finishers.
This was a full grid and a race where cars are very equal in performance, so the first lap was sure to be tight.
But guys, on a circuit like Monza and with the draft available in F2's NO-ONE, but NO-ONE, is going to get away unless the pack falls over itself behind!! Any of the cars can pull back a 100mtr lead easily so why risk so much in the first few corners. An incident and a spin will lose you 300mtrs and that means you WILL lose the draft. Backing out of a risky move and playing safe would cost you 50 mtrs which you will easily pull back on the next straight. I know the red mist of competition can blur the best of intentions, but it can also spoil your chances in a race at a circuit like Monza. The only lap that will count is the LAST lap.
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« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2013, 01:39:20 PM +0000 »

...and today is another day...

I've simmered down from my post of last evening and will not be filing any reports.  I realize that none of the goings on were intentional.  The incident that sent me on top of the guardrail in Lesmo1 was a pure accident resulting from another's error(rode over the kerb in Lesmo1 and bounced wide into my Lola)but that doesn't alter the fact that it may have cost my team a clear shot at the F2 title.  Still, I'm disappointed by the skills exhibited by at least one driver whom should no better from all his experience.  Why, in heavens name, would a driver, in the middle of a tight, three-car sandwich, push so hard to the point of losing control in Lesmo2 when slipstreaming was the obvious order of the day?  I posted above re 'tactics' when I really should use the word 'skills'.  This faux pas allowed DeanL, the ultimate 3rd place finisher, to breakaway and the time I lost in avoiding the spinner(I was momentarily lodged in the hedge on the exit of Lesmo2)set me back to get involved in the Lesmo1 incident a couple of laps later.  Sigh...  Just boggles my mind.

But like I said in the lead of this post.  Today is another day...

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« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2013, 02:35:27 PM +0000 »

I had just passed Natan on the approach to Para when I saw yellow flags and a couple of cars definitely NOT where you would expect them to be.

Did notice in the replay I did pass Natan under yellow flags. Missed the yellow flag in Ascari, and passed him towards Parabolica, where I did notice the yellow flag...

Might have been the red mist as Natan put a (very, edit: not very, I think Natan was focussing on trying to pass the Evil, but it forced me to lift in order to avoid mayhem) dangerous late block on me just before Curva Grande in the same lap. However, it wasn't intentional to pass under yellow, sorry for that and I accept any penalty on that.

Also I did accidently join initially with the Cooper, when I wanted to join with the BT23. I ran a lap in practise and was wondering why I was so slow, lol. So I did rejoin with the BT23. Also sorry for that...
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« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2013, 08:00:32 PM +0000 »

Nice race and pleasant battle with Phil and Roberto ...until I was disconnected.  Sad

 
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« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2013, 11:02:44 PM +0000 »

The final race is at Zandvoort next Sunday – to make room we will run this as two grids so I hope the Heavy drivers will turn up in force.

I will register with the heavies so that I can race at Zand. However, I do not mind waiting for next season if you think that it is best. Thanks, Walt
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« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2013, 08:21:01 AM +0000 »

Get in there Mr C.
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« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2013, 02:41:06 PM +0000 »

Experimented a bit making a video. Bear with me, I'm on an old P4 XP machine right now, so it's a lo-res 4:3 shaky 25FPS video. However, I think it gives a good impression about the great action going on around me. Enjoy Smiley

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD8o_uQm1WY
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« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2013, 03:04:24 PM +0000 »

Very Good Robert, quite enjoyed that...except for the tank slapper!!  Undecided
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« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2013, 03:37:28 PM +0000 »

Very Good Robert, quite enjoyed that...except for the tank slapper!!  Undecided

Thanks, I understand, didn't enjoy my off in Parabolica in lap 1 as well  Undecided However, watching the whole replay brought a big smile on my face. I'm glad I decided to race again online, it's so much fun.  Cool
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« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2014, 07:38:25 PM +0000 »

Final mod of Season 25 published.
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« Reply #25 on: January 12, 2014, 12:06:01 AM +0000 »

Final mod of Season 25 published.
Grats Paul!  A monumental effort completed just in time for the new season.
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« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2014, 10:20:42 PM +0000 »

It just remains for me to close of the second Season of F2 racing by congratulating our winners
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1st Evil Clive, 2nd Samb & 3rd Dean Logan / Team - Blue Moose

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1st David Rainier, 2nd Dave Curtis & 3rd Rog UK / Team Black Night.

.... season 26 is on the way.
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