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  • S26His Le Mans: January 28, 2014
January 28, 2014, 10:56:15 PM +0000 - Le Mans (Sarthe (1932-67)) - UKGPL Season 26 (2014) Historic Trophy (66)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Tom van Ostade
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 1 3:28.756
144.262mph
1 52:55.949
142.236mph
15 3:29.777
143.560mph
Firestone  
MagicArsouille
 
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 2 +0.139
144.166mph
2 +57.888
139.690mph
15 3:29.882
143.488mph
Firestone  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Honda RA273 F1 1966 12 +6.650
139.808mph
3 +59.614
139.615mph
15 3:33.212
141.247mph
Goodyear  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 8 +5.143
140.793mph
4 +1:17.319
138.855mph
15 3:32.479
141.734mph
Firestone  
AnGex
 Black Night Racing
Cooper T81 (Maserati) F1 1966 11 +6.294
140.040mph
5 +1:47.316
137.587mph
15 3:35.263
139.901mph
Firestone  
Turkey Machine
 HikiWazaRacing
BRM P83 F1 1966 9 +5.404
140.622mph
6 +3L
141.227mph
12 3:29.887
143.485mph
accident
Goodyear  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 10 +6.186
140.110mph
7 (+3) +11L
132.584mph
4 3:38.835
137.618mph
Disco
Firestone  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 3 +0.963
143.600mph
8 +15L
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0 ---
---
accident
Firestone  
Flow
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 4 +1.878
142.976mph
9 (+3)
---
0 ---
---
Disco
Firestone  
DLogan
 
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 6 +2.714
142.411mph
10
---
0 ---
---
Disco
Firestone  
Ronniepeterson
 
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 7 +4.865
140.977mph
11
---
0 ---
---
Disco
Goodyear  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 5 +2.407
142.618mph
12
---
0 ---
---
Disco
Firestone  
BadBlood
 Blue Moose Racing
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1966) F1 1966 14 13
---
0 ---
---
accident
Goodyear  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 13 14 DNS ---
---
Firestone  

Moderator's Report

Two accidents on the 1st lap and the 1st turn...
The race could have been very funny on such a track, unfortunately almost 50% of the drivers could not finish the 1st lap :(

In both cases, the driver responsible of the accident changed his line and went into another driver.

From my PoV, you should use Pribluda : if you see no gap (0.0) it means you are side by side with another driver.

If you don't want to or cannot use Pribluda, you have to use F10 view !
If you don't want to or cannot drive with F10 view, you must not change your line during the red zone !


Server replay time: 0h00m59s

Jethro took a very quick start but too dangerous in this situation. He was almost chopping Martin's nose, and makes a very bold move in T1 on Ronnie.

But in the end he doesn't touch anyone, holds his line and keeps his nose clean...so no penalty, just a caution.


Server replay time: 0h01m00s

Violent side by side contact between Axel Cookie and Florian Gebhardt during lap one red zone.

Axel did no error but Florian could not see any car in his mirrors but he changed his line and had a great responsibility in the carnage that followed this accident.


Server replay time: 0h01m03s

David Rainier had a very slow start and, thanks to the gap with leaders, he could see the accident in front of his car, and he could brake and slow his car.
That was quite the same for Andreas Gebhardt but even if he could see what happened he did not slow his car at the right time, he also did not try to avoid the accident by changing his line and so he rear ended Rainier...


Server replay time: 0h01m05s

A second accident occured between Fran Molteni and Evil Clive, it was quite the same as Axel vs Florian :
Clive did no mistake but Fran changed his line and had a side by side contact with Clive.

Paul Whitfield was an innocent victim of this 2nd accident.

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« on: January 22, 2014, 08:12:58 PM +0000 »

The second round of the season 26 Historics championship (mod66) will be at LE MANS.


The full time drivers can start to practice as soon as the server is available.  Reserve drivers can also join as soon as the server becomes available but must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 5 minutes; this will allow any remaining full timers to join.  If there is enough space on the grid, the reserve drivers will be able to rejoin when there are 30 mins of qualifying left.  

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

The race will be run under PRO rules so no resets are allowed.


For THIS RACE, 3 liters car must be selected

All drivers have free choice (3 liters cars only).


Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_T7_2
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = Tuesday 28-01-2014
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track = Le Mans (bsarthe)
Race length = 15 laps
Variant = 1966
Damage Model = Pro
Qualifying time = minimum of 30 minutes

Password see above
Replay will be here

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page

Full moderation of lap one red zone :
LAP ONE RED ZONE= First lap until the exit of last turn before Les Hunaudiéres (aka Mulsanne Straight) .


Some drivers reported a risk of disconnection on this track (I raced several times here, but it never happened to me) :
In case of global disconnection during the qualifying time or during the 2 first laps, the race will be moved to KYALAMI  with only 10 minutes of qualifying.
In case of general disconnections after the leader has passed 2 laps , the race will be reported at the end of the season and on another track.
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« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2014, 04:09:52 PM +0000 »

if a server is available (UKGPLT7_2), I will launch a test session tonight in Le Mans around 9.00 pm UK time  (22H00 on the Continent).
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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2014, 05:40:14 PM +0000 »

Could you please arrange the track, to be driven on the left?  You may prefer not to be left, but we British believe we are in the right. Tongue
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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2014, 05:41:23 PM +0000 »

if a server is available (UKGPLT7_2), I will launch a test session tonight in Le Mans around 9.00 pm UK time  (22H00 on the Continent).

It might not be David. I will check for you by 20:00 UK time.
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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2014, 06:27:03 PM +0000 »

if a server is available (UKGPLT7_2), I will launch a test session tonight in Le Mans around 9.00 pm UK time  (22H00 on the Continent).

It might not be David. I will check for you by 20:00 UK time.

Paul

yes it is, I just made a try
 
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« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2014, 07:05:08 PM +0000 »

I can make the start of this event but can't finish it.  A doctor's appointment will pull me away after about 15-20 minutes.  Still, I'd like the opportunity to score some points for the Moose.  Don't beat up on me too much as I'm not going to be around for the finish anyway.  Smiley

Edit: some minutes later...

Just called the doctor's office to confirm.  My appointment has been moved ahead.  Not a chance of making the show now.  Best of Luck, Gys!
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« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2014, 09:39:00 PM +0000 »

You didn't miss anything Doni.

Guys. If you have a spin, can you apply the brakes please rather than rolling across the track?
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« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2014, 09:46:00 PM +0000 »

Great job on the careful lap 1, guys!  Grin
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« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2014, 09:52:07 PM +0000 »

You didn't miss anything Doni.

Guys. If you have a spin, can you apply the brakes please rather than rolling across the track?


Yes a well known scenario :

Just after the 1st turn, there was an accident in front of me, I braked to avoid the shunt but the driver behind me was too close, doesn't brake enough and rear ended me, projecting my car over other car(s).
13 drivers at the start ...only 7 after the first turn  Sad

I don't know what to do ! Next race, I think I will start on the last position of the grid and wait several seconds before running.
 
Maybe we should re-introduce rolling start  Huh


It seems there was a nice battle between Tristan and Tom during the fist laps !
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« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2014, 09:56:19 PM +0000 »

You have to laugh. Practice, turn up, qualify, line up on the start grid, some one says be careful at the start in chat and............ Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Looking at the replay in my opinion the fun and games start when two Fezza's simply don't give each other enough room or more precisely one Fezza does not see/drifts into the other one. Still I get to go to bed early and for that I thank you Flo.

Good luck to everyone still running.
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« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2014, 10:06:17 PM +0000 »

...Looking at the replay in my opinion the fun and games start when two Fezza's simply don't give each other enough room or more precisely one Fezza does not see/drifts into the other one...

And then someone else does not see/drifts into another Fezza who had seen the incident and was trying to avoid it, knocking them sideways to join in the fun (and the very early find-something-else-to-do).  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2014, 10:34:07 PM +0000 »

Barring the lap 1 fiasco which benefited me greatly (so I won't complain!) if ever an example of quick close racing was demonstrated, Tristan and Tom did a fine job for 8 laps until Tristan's engine lost a cylinder.

Turns out my longer 6th gear in the BRM still wasn't long enough when in the draft of those two, and it topped out around 199mph! Lost a wheel at Tertre Rouge after many laps, and watched the rest of the race from the sidelines.
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« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2014, 10:48:43 PM +0000 »

Grats to Tommie and Tris  ( and Jethro) who drove a very fast race up front. I was watching the progress on prib, well you have to do something to pass the time on that endless straight!!!


Well well well, I can understand the disappointment of many at that T1 incident, which is why I deliberately did not try to qualify and started last.
After recent fiascos at Monza etc I could almost predict that something would happen, although I have to confess it did surprise me that it was so soon.  Sad But I wanted to be sure that I avoided any paint swapping parties and concentrated on 1st lap survival and picking places up through the race. So I geared the Waza for slipstream and was able to tail a Fezza  at top speed with 750 revs in hand, just in case I should I want to try a pass. I had intended to pick off a few cars down the straight on Lap 1, but I never got the chance lol.

I came over the brow and there was a red wall in front of me...wall to wall fezzas. It was like a hairdressers convention  Wink

By the time I got onto the Mulsanne straight I was 5th.  A few laps dicing with Andreas in his Cooper and Martin tagging behind in his Fezza was fun, until Andreas spun and that left Martin and myself. I was quite happy to trundle along in martin's slipstream on the straight, but geeez his warping was unnerving around the rest of the circuit lol!

Then Martin overcooked it at Arnage? I think and I was away and clear with enough daylight to prevent him drafting back up to me in that fast red thing.

That gave me a solid 4th until Jethro lost a wheel and I was 3rd. On the last lap I was catching Tristan in his limping Ferrari and another few hundred metres and I might have stolen 2nd spot.

As it was, I got 3rd place from last on the grid in a slower car. Which does kind of prove that you cannot win a race on the first lap at somewhere like Le Mans, but you can certainly lose it, and to finish first ( or on the podium) first you have to be sure you finish??
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« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2014, 11:32:53 PM +0000 »

Next race, I think I will start on the last position of the grid and wait several seconds before running.

Tried that - watch the replay  Angry

The only way is to get pole and disappear... :grumble:
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« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2014, 12:40:02 AM +0000 »

Tried that - watch the replay  Grin
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