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February 20, 2014, 08:43:36 PM +0000 - Cadwell Park (Full) - UKPnG Season 9 British Historic Cup
Driver
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Giuseppe Reali
 Team7
Austin Mini Cooper 970S (#65071) P&G Group 2 4 +0.793
76.823mph
1 39:34.319
75.685mph
23 1:42.175
76.467mph
Dunlop  
johnw
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Jaguar MkII (#62007) P&G Group 2 2 +0.234
77.247mph
2 +3.139
75.585mph
23 1:42.145
76.490mph
Dunlop  
ElPorracho
 
Jaguar MkII (#62007) P&G Group 2 1 1:40.909
77.427mph
3 +8.275
75.422mph
23 1:42.294
76.378mph
Dunlop  
fzcfede
 Team7
Austin Mini Cooper 970S (#65071) P&G Group 2 3 +0.727
76.873mph
4 +34.688
74.595mph
23 1:41.909
76.667mph
Dunlop  
Clive Loynes
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Jaguar MkII (#62007) P&G Group 2 10 +2.766
75.361mph
5 +53.830
74.007mph
23 1:43.417
75.549mph
Dunlop  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Austin Mini Cooper 970S (#65071) P&G Group 2 6 +1.761
76.099mph
6 +1:05.207
73.662mph
23 1:42.638
76.122mph
Dunlop  
Legzy
 Team Oldie Racing
Jaguar MkII (#62007) P&G Group 2 13 +3.236
75.021mph
7 +1:06.444
73.624mph
23 1:43.728
75.322mph
Dunlop  
seniordan
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Austin Mini Cooper 970S (#65071) P&G Group 2 9 +2.711
75.401mph
8 +1:07.278
73.599mph
23 1:43.836
75.244mph
Dunlop  
IvanStanchev
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Jaguar MkII (#62007) P&G Group 2 5 +1.594
76.223mph
9 +1:19.662
73.228mph
23 1:44.080
75.068mph
Dunlop  
SuperSWIFT
 
Jaguar MkII (#60042) P&G Group 2 12 +3.105
75.115mph
10 +1:28.201
72.974mph
23 1:45.090
74.346mph
Dunlop  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Jaguar MkII (#62007) P&G Group 2 15 +3.490
74.838mph
11 +1:30.153
72.916mph
23 1:44.454
74.799mph
Dunlop  
Bob
 WSL Racing Team
Ford Cortina GT (#6422) P&G Group 2 14 +3.302
74.973mph
12 +1:31.105
72.888mph
23 1:44.940
74.452mph
Dunlop  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Jaguar MkII (#62007) P&G Group 2 11 +2.978
75.207mph
13 +1:48.953
72.364mph
23 1:45.146
74.307mph
Dunlop  
EvilClive
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Ford Cortina GT (#6422) P&G Group 2 16 +3.745
74.656mph
14 +1L
72.024mph
22 1:45.086
74.349mph
Dunlop  
ChrisR
 
Ford Cortina GT (#64015) P&G Group 2 17 +4.154
74.365mph
15 +51.517
70.502mph
22 1:44.494
74.770mph
Dunlop  
Alex vV
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Ford Cortina GT (#6422) P&G Group 2 21 +8.818
71.204mph
16 +57.627
70.326mph
22 1:48.311
72.135mph
Dunlop  
Stefan aka Postal
 Legends Racing
Ford Cortina GT (#6422) P&G Group 2 19 +5.823
73.202mph
17 +1:09.816
69.977mph
22 1:47.400
72.747mph
Dunlop  
Jarda Zacek
 
Ford Cortina GT (#6422) P&G Group 2 18 +5.640
73.328mph
18 +1:10.391
69.960mph
22 1:47.529
72.660mph
Dunlop  
Hotkeys
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Austin Mini Cooper 970S (#6503) P&G Group 2 8 +2.698
75.410mph
19 +18L 5 1:43.984
75.137mph
suspension
Dunlop  
Animal Ed
 Team Oldie Racing
Austin Mini Cooper 970S (#65071) P&G Group 2 7 +2.052
75.883mph
20 +21L 2 1:45.900
73.777mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
Ford Cortina GT (#6422) P&G Group 2 20 +7.865
71.828mph
21 +22L 1 2:07.788
61.141mph
unknown
Dunlop  
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« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2014, 10:12:27 PM +0000 »

Just done 4 laps in each car with a quick setup and I get a best lap of:

Jag = 1:46.8
Mini = 1:46.9
Tina= 1:47.0

Usually minis eat front tyres more than the others.
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« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2014, 10:15:20 PM +0000 »

I disagree. I get identical times in the Mini and the Cortina with the Jag 1.5 secs off the pace, when it hasn't blown up!

LOL

I try to pass on the pearls of wisdom from the SBRC Testing Department and you just won't have it!   Roll Eyes

My Mini is now 3 seconds faster than my Jag and much easier to drive and you can drive it like you stole it and it still asks for more!

Not tried the Cortinal myself.
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« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2014, 10:24:56 PM +0000 »

Oh, I expect a well setup well driven mini will be fastest, but I prefer the Armchair.

EDIT: Seems like several people are getting the Mini much faster than the Jag, though I don't.
So:

Jag 4.2 now allowed

Sorry Stig, I know you hate cars changing.
The Tina is now for masochists and those who want a challenge, not much I can do about that now.
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« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2014, 12:02:16 PM +0000 »

hmmmmmmmm............... maybe it is me, well lets face it it MUST be me,

 but I actually like the Dagenham Dustbin and find it great fun to drive, provided that I remeber to brake early enough for the front end to have a chance of grabbing some grip.

The Longbridge Longboat is just so far out of my driving style, that I struggle to get sub 1:50 and that involves melting the tyres over a single lap, must be me again I guess??  Undecided

The Magic Mini just feels like cheating as the cornering is just awesome. More like a slot racing car than something relying on rubber and friction, but I suspect that using it over multiple laps might mean that I need a couple of pitstops for front end tyres?? or is that just me again???
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« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2014, 12:46:27 PM +0000 »

I quite like this Tina as well, I can get it to drift in a useful way. The 4.2 Jag is at least a second faster than the 3.8
so it might make it less of a Mini walkover. A well driven mini may still win, but there may now be some Jags
hounding them. The Tina will now be the slowest option, but with enough skill could place well. The Lotus Cortina
is wayy too fast for this group. I haven't done extensive testing here, but usually the PG minis eat front tyres, though
they would probably last the race.
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« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2014, 10:34:48 PM +0000 »

Love the 4.2 Jag but keeping the engine in one piece is a good trick.

Even when being very careful on my gear changes the engine seems to suffer.

I shall be in and out of the grid like a fiddler's elbow, trying to find an engine with 100% left in it!   Grin
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« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2014, 12:49:33 PM +0000 »

Lap times from last night on the practice server:

Giuseppe Reali: 1:42.0 (Mini 970)
EvilClive: 1:46.? (Cortina GT)
SuperSwift: 1:45.9 (Jag 3.8 MKII)

Had a fun time chasing EvilClive and trying to follow Giuseppe. The cars have very, very different characteristic which makes racing them *interesting*  Wink

See you tomorrow!

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« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2014, 01:04:10 PM +0000 »

Lap times from last night on the practice server:

Giuseppe Reali: 1:42.0 (Mini 970)




Eeeek!!!   

Someone find something for Giuseppe to do, to stop him practising!
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« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2014, 02:12:00 PM +0000 »

Lap times from last night on the practice server:

Giuseppe Reali: 1:42.0 (Mini 970)




Eeeek!!!   

Someone find something for Giuseppe to do, to stop him practising!

LOL!! I only did a few laps to fix the car for qualifying  Roll Eyes
More than anything else I'd like to meet other drivers in training, instead of the usual 4 cats, so as to exchange ideas, setup and also to know each other better  thumbup2
However, a best time of 1.41.5 and I have done with a full tank is slower than 1.5 sec

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« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2014, 02:47:29 PM +0000 »

From where I am standing ( which incidentally is a loooong way back on the grid) this looks like a 2 class race.  The minis are going to vanish into the distance and the Jags and Cortinas will exchange  dents and paint samples for the minor places.

Sooo tempting to take a mini, but I do sort of like the Ford............decisions, decisions  hmmmmmmmmmmmm Roll Eyes
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« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2014, 03:31:02 PM +0000 »

From where I am standing ( which incidentally is a loooong way back on the grid) this looks like a 2 class race.  The minis are going to vanish into the distance and the Jags and Cortinas will exchange  dents and paint samples for the minor places.

Sooo tempting to take a mini, but I do sort of like the Ford............decisions, decisions  hmmmmmmmmmmmm Roll Eyes

Don't think it is that simple but the 3.8 Jag and Cortina might exchange a fair bit of paint, hub caps and door handles.

The 4.2 Jag will be in front of this battle but may struggle to match the Mini, although I'm quicker in the Jag so who knows what the alien classes may make of it.

We will both be watching from a distance but you can see quite a way ahead on this circuit.  Very distracting, almost a certain crash!   Grin
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« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2014, 03:37:07 PM +0000 »

Not that my times mean much, but.... I am something like 2 secs faster in the 4.2 Jag than the Mini.  Shocked
Which is why it wasn't there initially...
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« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2014, 07:52:56 PM +0000 »

I know this is off topic, but could any one inform me of the procedure to invite a friend to join the racing at UKPnG.  His name is ChrisR and he is a competent racer. Raced last night with us at NoGrip and enjoyed P&G. Any info appreciated, thanks Bob.
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« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2014, 08:25:39 PM +0000 »

Hi Bob, your friend just needs to register with this site I believe, then he's ready to go racing  Smiley
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« Reply #29 on: February 19, 2014, 08:29:56 PM +0000 »

Thank You.
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