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January 21, 2014, 10:38:27 PM +0000 - Zolder (1965-72) - UKGPL Season 26 (2014) Professionals Trophy (65)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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MagicArsouille
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 2 +0.313
101.846mph
1 46:30.648
100.700mph
30 1:32.218
101.578mph
Dunlop  
uli
 
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 1 1:31.662
102.194mph
2 +9.987
100.341mph
30 1:32.242
101.551mph
Dunlop  
Raoni Frizzo
 Team Coyote
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 5 +0.677
101.444mph
3 +18.877
100.023mph
30 1:32.141
101.662mph
Dunlop  
Robert Fleurke
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 6 +0.919
101.179mph
4 +29.519
99.646mph
30 1:33.101
100.614mph
Dunlop  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 7 +1.026
101.063mph
5 +41.654
99.219mph
30 1:33.117
100.597mph
Dunlop  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 14 +2.400
99.586mph
6 +1:30.507
97.537mph
30 1:33.741
99.927mph
Goodyear  
NHance
 Mountside Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 11 +1.412
100.643mph
7 +1:33.456
97.437mph
30 1:34.127
99.517mph
Goodyear  
Iestyn Davies
 Blue Moose Racing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 18 +14.032
88.626mph
8 +1L
96.117mph
29 1:33.910
99.747mph
Goodyear  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 16 +4.312
97.602mph
9 +31.967
95.042mph
29 1:34.652
98.965mph
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 17 +9.119
92.947mph
10 +3L
88.647mph
27 1:39.179
94.448mph
Goodyear  
natan5
 NVRacing
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 10 +1.309
100.755mph
11 +22L
96.804mph
8 1:34.425
99.203mph
Disco
Dunlop  
DLogan
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 12 +1.718
100.314mph
12 (+2) +25L
92.691mph
5 1:34.395
99.235mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Turkey Machine
 HikiWazaRacing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 8 +1.108
100.973mph
13 +0.229
92.649mph
5 1:33.556
100.125mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Ronniepeterson
 
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 4 +0.524
101.613mph
14 +28L
95.468mph
2 1:36.629
96.941mph
Disco
Dunlop  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 3 +0.490
101.650mph
15 +30L
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Disco
Dunlop  
Arf Arf Arf
 Team Baarf
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 9 +1.266
100.802mph
16
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0 ---
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Disco
Goodyear  
Clutch4
 Mountside Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 13 +2.199
99.800mph
17
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0 ---
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Disco
Goodyear  
Gareth
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 15 +2.415
99.570mph
18
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0 ---
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Disco
Dunlop  
UKGPL 8
 
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 19 19 DNS ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Only one incident of note but if we must have an incident let us make it a BIG one <sigh>

Please note that I did ask drivers for their views of the incident but only got three replies. Client replays can be illuminating and helpful if you have them.


Server replay time: 0h00m54s

Natan is pushing hard for the corner and rear ends Jethro. What saves him is evidence of massive warp. The much varying pace and position of Mr Walters car makes heavy contact unavoidable. He could have been less gung ho which might have meant that a crash could be avoided.

From then on it is mayhem with some drivers managing to stop and others not. Drivers MUST be prepared for incidents and whilst no one is particularly to blame there is some poor car control here.

Going hell for leather for T1 is not what is expected of a Pro level event. Nobody gets penalised this time but I expect better next time. Please be aware that warp is VERY likely on lap 1 and especially off the start line.


Server replay time: 0h01m04s

Dean is unlucky to get launched skyward and end up facing the wrong way and off the track. He tries to execute a spin turn but Jethro is in the space he needs and the luckless Mr Walters is once again biffed.

This comes under bad rejoin territory. Dean is unlucky to get singled out but this was after the main crash and was avoidable. We will draw a veil over the nudges he gives to Norm as they both get going.

The rules have this "The rejoining driver drove straight back onto the track, but not the racing line, without checking for other cars and contact was made." which would normally attract a two place penalty. Due to the circumstances I have ameliorated the penalty to one place but as this in the Red Zone it does get a further place.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Grand Prix Legends
F1 1965
1:31.662
102.180mph
uli
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« Reply #30 on: January 25, 2014, 12:37:48 PM +0000 »

I have been musing over obtaining a second-hand server and installing a Windows Server 2003 instance + GPL + tracks on it and installing it in a rack at work (10Mb leased line connection).

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« Reply #31 on: January 25, 2014, 01:10:35 PM +0000 »

Hi Smiley

I love Zolder, very good track for me...and good race too Wink    ...thx to all , rendez-vous à Oulton  Kiss
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« Reply #32 on: January 29, 2014, 12:24:32 AM +0000 »

I have been musing over obtaining a second-hand server and installing a Windows Server 2003 instance + GPL + tracks on it and installing it in a rack at work (10Mb leased line connection).

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Exactly what UKGPL3 is (except it wasn't second hand. HP Microserver - unbelievable value for money. Windows Server - terrible VFM!
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« Reply #33 on: January 29, 2014, 10:59:02 AM +0000 »

The main problem a server has is several clients with a bad connection in a short distance!

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« Reply #34 on: January 29, 2014, 12:17:29 PM +0000 »

Second that.
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« Reply #35 on: January 29, 2014, 01:31:17 PM +0000 »

The main problem a server has is several clients with a bad connection in a short distance!

That's why I use the 2/384 2/84 BW settings to have more input for the server. (every 2 frames instead of 3 frames)
My server runs this with a full grid of Gt's at LeMans without problems...

Maybe only a restriction in IGOR to limit the latency: "enforce maximum latency" set to a lower value, would help, but it would exclude some drivers...
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« Reply #36 on: January 29, 2014, 08:35:31 PM +0000 »

Whilst latency was high (at least on my end) at the beginning of the race, it was not a significant factor in the start-line collision, I have just witnessed the replay and seen exactly what happened. As I was involved in the mêlée I have submitted my report accordingly.
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« Reply #37 on: January 29, 2014, 11:33:16 PM +0000 »

Please don't second guess the Mod report - there is very clear evidence of warp at the start.
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« Reply #38 on: January 30, 2014, 08:58:16 AM +0000 »

Please don't second guess the Mod report - there is very clear evidence of warp at the start.

and I second, not second guessing about the warp. Your client replay may have been OK Jethro, but I definitely suffered from some interweb anomolies off the grid and was kicked off the server, so the gremlins were active somewhere.

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« Reply #39 on: January 31, 2014, 12:08:05 PM +0000 »

Please don't second guess the Mod report - there is very clear evidence of warp at the start.

and I second, not second guessing about the warp. Your client replay may have been OK Jethro, but I definitely suffered from some interweb anomolies off the grid and was kicked off the server, so the gremlins were active somewhere.



Duly noted, we'll see what happens.
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« Reply #40 on: February 04, 2014, 08:38:29 PM +0000 »

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« Reply #41 on: February 04, 2014, 11:22:49 PM +0000 »

Mod published

I'm the only one who gets punished?

Take the 0 points I scored, you're welcome to them.  laugh
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« Reply #42 on: February 05, 2014, 08:51:55 PM +0000 »

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I'm the only one who gets punished?

Take the 0 points I scored, you're welcome to them.  laugh


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« Reply #43 on: February 09, 2014, 04:06:29 PM +0000 »

Natan would have had the book thrown at him had he not had a major warp to fall back on. All the rest was reactions. The rejoin incident with Jethro was eminently avoidable - the 'punishment' is to encourage you to not do it again Wink.

If you feel that you have been singled out unfairly then spend an hour and a half looking at each incident separately from several POVs and then tell me what conclusions you have come to.  Cheesy
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« Reply #44 on: February 21, 2014, 12:56:35 PM +0000 »

If you feel that you have been singled out unfairly then spend an hour and a half looking at each incident separately from several POVs and then tell me what conclusions you have come to.  Cheesy

Is that level of dedication sustainable? If not, then you could make the offseason break longer.  You could have the summer season consist of only fun races.

I really enjoy the league the way it is, and I don't want a change. However, you should probably take steps to prevent burnout before it happens.  

Sorry, I know that all of my suggestions are not very good.
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