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  • S2667F2 Kyalami: February 02, 2014
February 02, 2014, 09:35:18 PM +0000 - Kyalami (1961-67) - UKGPL Season 26 (2014) Formula Two Trophy
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Roberto Teso
 Squadra Padova Corse
Matra MS7 GPL F2 3 +0.450
112.275mph
1 38:27.602
111.104mph
28 1:21.409
112.476mph
Dunlop  
Piero Mercaldo
 Squadra Padova Corse
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 2 +0.369
112.386mph
2 +6.861
110.775mph
28 1:21.308
112.616mph
Goodyear  
Robert Fleurke
 Antipasti Racing
McLaren M4A GPL F2 1 1:21.105
112.898mph
3 +12.436
110.509mph
28 1:21.365
112.537mph
Goodyear  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Matra MS7 GPL F2 9 +2.418
109.629mph
4 +50.463
108.726mph
28 1:22.591
110.866mph
Dunlop  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Matra MS7 GPL F2 7 +2.092
110.059mph
5 +50.768
108.712mph
28 1:22.829
110.548mph
Dunlop  
Turkey Machine
 HikiWazaRacing
Matra MS7 GPL F2 4 +0.980
111.550mph
6 +1:01.819
108.205mph
28 1:21.660
112.130mph
Dunlop  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Lola T100 (FVA) GPL F2 8 +2.379
109.681mph
7 +1:13.599
107.670mph
28 1:22.762
110.637mph
Firestone  
Walter Conn
 WSL Racing Team
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 10 +2.983
108.893mph
8 +1L
106.685mph
27 1:22.887
110.471mph
Goodyear  
Ronniepeterson
 
Matra MS7 GPL F2 6 +1.244
111.192mph
9 +10.144
106.220mph
27 1:22.124
111.497mph
Dunlop  
DLogan
 
Matra MS7 GPL F2 5 +0.989
111.538mph
10 +8L
108.645mph
20 1:22.047
111.602mph
Disco
Dunlop  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 11 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
Lotus 48 GPL F2 11 12 ---
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Dunlop  

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Server replay time: 0h01m11s

Rainier gets sideways in Barbeque. Dave C takes the inside line. Dean is following & really left with nowhere to go. Racing Incident (Technically this could be ignored as Dean should not have been on Grid B.)

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h04m28s

Rob F is battling with Piero at Clubhouse. They both lose some ground going over opposite kerbs. Ronnie sees the opportunity for a double overtake down the middle. Rob does move right squeezing Ronnie's space. Nevertheless, Ronnie's manoeuvre was ambitious. Rob asked for any penalty to be waived.


Server replay time: 0h11m15s

Not a reported incident, but results in a Shift R for both drivers. Ronnie & Dave C. Ronnie overtakes DC at Crowthorne but at the expense of a wide line on the next straight. Ronnie is slightly ahead but he does cut across the corner hard at Barbeque leaving DC no space. Either driver could have avoided this incident & saved themselves a Stop & Go.


Server replay time: 0h33m49s

Pirero was lapping Ronnie. Both cars are on the outside edge of the main straight. Piero uses the draft to pass Ronnie but gets very tight before moving out of the slipstream. With the F2 draft he could have left more room - there was plenty of road ahead. At the same time RP lifts slightly on the gas. The combination caused the contact. The etiquette for drivers being lapped on the straight is to keep an stable line & ease off slightly. Neither driver did anything wrong but the combined actions resulted in contact.


Server replay time: 0h38m34s

Always appreciated when drivers write their own reports "Jethro forgets to fuel his car to go the distance, and despite attempts at conserving fuel, has to reset on the last lap. He does the reset in the pitlane (correct or not?), but finishes in 4th, however a last lap reset comes with a 30 second time penalty, demoting to 5th." For the record Shift R in the Pit Lane isn't always the best / correct strategy (it takes more time) - but no a problem as long as the respawn is safe.
Second correction - time penalty in this series is 15s.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Grand Prix Legends
GPL F2
1:21.105
112.920mph
Robert Fleurke
Qualifying
McLaren M4AFebruary 02, 2014, 09:35:18 PM +0000
S2667F2
Grand Prix Legends
GPL F2
1:21.308
112.638mph
Piero Mercaldo
Race
Brabham BT23February 02, 2014, 09:35:18 PM +0000
S2667F2
February 02, 2014, 10:00:56 PM +0000 - Kyalami (1961-67) - UKGPL Season 26 (2014) Formula Two Trophy
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
GregT
 
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 1 1:22.439
111.119mph
1 38:53.403
109.923mph
28 1:22.284
111.329mph
Goodyear  
natan5
 NVRacing
Lola T100 (FVA) GPL F2 3 +0.576
110.348mph
2 +16.799
109.138mph
28 1:22.829
110.596mph
Firestone  
Marco Mercaldo
 Squadra Padova Corse
Matra MS7 GPL F2 2 +0.174
110.885mph
3 +17.572
109.102mph
28 1:22.520
111.010mph
Dunlop  
NewBlood
 Blue Moose Racing
Matra MS7 GPL F2 5 +1.174
109.559mph
4 +32.837
108.398mph
28 1:22.675
110.802mph
Dunlop  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 6 +1.275
109.427mph
5 +33.215
108.381mph
28 1:22.320
111.280mph
Goodyear  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 7 +1.968
108.528mph
6 +1:14.053
106.542mph
28 1:24.099
108.926mph
Goodyear  
BadBlood
 Blue Moose Racing
Lotus 48 GPL F2 8 +3.056
107.147mph
7 +1L
102.731mph
27 1:24.592
108.291mph
Firestone  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 4 +0.859
109.973mph
8 +9L
109.192mph
19 1:22.141
111.522mph
Disco
Goodyear  
UKGPL 3
 
Lola T100 (FVA) GPL F2 9 9 DNS ---
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Firestone  

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« on: January 29, 2014, 11:41:38 PM +0000 »

THIS POST IS FOR BOTH GRIDS

The second round of the Formula Two trophy will be on the Paptrus original track at Kyalami. Little to say about this track other than you must ensure that you have the Pit Wall in place. Those without the pit wall will risk disqualification. Advantage can be gained without it & drivers seen driving down the space where the pit wall should be excluded.

The standard Papyrus track has a pit wall but there are patches available that remove it. The absence of a pit wall will not stop you from joining the race but anybody seen by the moderators miraculously driving through the pit wall on the server replay will risk disqualification.

Follow these instructions to restore the wall if you have a mod that has removed it:
METHOD 1:
To place a wall between the pits and the track, rename or remove the kyalami.trk and kyalami.3do files from your kyalami folder.
METHOD 2:
To reinstall the original Papyrus Armco, rename or remove the Armco_s.mip file from your kyalami folder.[/

The series will be run on two separate grids;  Group A (on UKGPL3) & Group B(onT7). Please ensure you join the correct race.

Drivers have been allocated to the grids as below
Group A
Arf, Cookie, Dean Logan, Doni Yourth, Evil, Greg T, Marco, Natan, Fulvio, Badblood, Billy, Boggy, Il Lupo & New Blood
RACE ON UKGPL3

Group B
Phil Thornton, Piero Mercaldo, Rainier, Raoni, Robert Fleurke, Roberto Teso, Ronnie, Samb, Turkey Machine, Iestyn, Dave Curtis, Rog, Maddog, & Walter
RACE ON UKGPL_T7


ONE reset is allowed but the Shift R must be followed by a Stop & Go in the pit lane within TWO laps. If you Reset on the last lap a 15 second time penalty will be awarded. Drivers must complete 50% of the race distance to score.

Handicaps will not apply until Round 4 at the earliest.

Race List = IGOR
Group A
Server = UKGPL3
IP = ukgpl3.dyndns.org
Group B
Server=UKGPL_T7_2
IP = 62.149.202.168
Race date = 02 February 2014
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track = Kyalami
Race length = 28 Laps
Variant = 1967 Formula 2
Damage Model = Intermediate
Qualifying time = max. 30 minutes
Password: see above
Replays available here

GPL F2 Mod: The initial release of the F2 mod will be used. The mod can be found here

The Driver list, Championship Table and series rules can be found here: Formula Two Trophy

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

Moderating The red zone will be fully moderated, the red zone will be from the start to the exit of the Barbeque Bend. . Other moderation will be on reported incidents only or at the Moderators discretion.

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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2014, 11:53:33 PM +0000 »

ANNOUNCEMENT

Gentlemen,
Thanks for you patience with the late reorganisation of this series to run as two separate Grids. As explained it was not practical to have two viable grids divided by ability, so we have two equal Groups A & B & every driver who has signed up for the series is guaranteed a drive.

This will give us two F2 champions. At the end of the  ten race series there will be a one off race to decide the Champion of Champions & also to sort out which is the better Group. Further details will be announced near the end of the season.
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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2014, 06:06:35 PM +0000 »

Having just done some practice, those records are going to tumble, particularly if you get a draft.
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« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2014, 04:07:04 PM +0000 »

Thanks Bill Smiley

Always used to have online leagueraces without the armco, as it is safer with more room. But have no problem with it's there, same for everyone. But please remember it's very tight, so be sure when a car is alongside to stay at the extreme left there. At the end of the armco the tarmac is tightening, so again heads up, especially after the start...it's very tight and it's very important to hold your lines...

I'll knock on wood now so I don't curse myself  angel Looking forward to this one, one of my favo tracks Wink
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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2014, 10:07:01 PM +0000 »

Having just done some practice, those records are going to tumble, particularly if you get a draft.

Yeh, my 1:25 on race fuel is going to turn into race pace of 1:27 probably!
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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2014, 12:28:17 PM +0000 »

On track records - the GPL 1967 one must be a laggy/warp lap from s1. Hristo's Race record is a good one though.

Kyalami should be fun in F2s! I can see why it's better to race without the armco (historically accurate), for space, but GPL comes with it in, so it is fair to race with it to ensure an even playing field.

PS. The 'champion of champions' race is a nice championship development, and after all has been said and done, it's a good reason to have another race! Cool
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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2014, 10:05:08 PM +0000 »

Did I go and join the wrong server? DQ, whatever.

...I just felt my motivation for this/these/whatever series plummet.
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« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2014, 10:16:41 PM +0000 »

Did I go and join the wrong server? DQ, whatever.

...I just felt my motivation for this/these/whatever series plummet.

We were trying to tell you in qualy...


My race ended up being a game of fuel consumption... it culminated in a reset on the last lap, so add 30 seconds and I am 7th rather than 4th. Still, live and learn...
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« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2014, 10:37:03 PM +0000 »

Ronnie why are you so?
Taken care of! Shocked
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« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2014, 10:42:26 PM +0000 »

Did I go and join the wrong server? DQ, whatever.

...I just felt my motivation for this/these/whatever series plummet.

LOL
Dean same here, but I just saw it in last second...
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« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2014, 11:21:32 PM +0000 »

Well, that didn't work too well. Personally, I guess it worked great though.

It's a shame Clive didn't make it back for the second attempt. We were setting up for a great race in the first one. Very nice job on the pole time. With a couple of minutes to go I started thinking I might get it. Clive was faster but it didn't look like he had the speed to get away from me in the race. I had an opportunity to slipstream past once on cold tires but didn't think it was wise that early in the race. Once the tires were up to temp, I'd have had to give it shot and I'm sure he'd have passed me on the main straight the next time.

I tried to ruin the second race for myself. I was pushing as hard as I could to try to open a gap on Marco so he couldn't slipstream off of me. Clipped the curb coming out the esses and spun it but that caused no car problems and luckily didn't appear to hinder anybody but me. I was driving better in the first race. I was pretty sloppy at times in the second race but had enough speed to keep the pressure on everybody else.

It was nice to get a win and get some more time in the BT23. Hopefully things will work better next time though. I'd rather have had Clive there and finished second. And if I beat him fair and square, I'd have really impressed myself.

Thanks for the fun guys. I appreciate it.
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« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2014, 01:01:41 AM +0000 »

Had a good lap in quali without a tow and sat out practise. Roberto passed me on Lap 2 with better topspeed, and on Lap 3 I got caught out into Clubhouse Bend, and I have to avoid Roberto going on the grass, I stay at the left but Ronnie comes across and I end up in the armco. Back to P7. Car felt better in the righthanders, but worse in the lefthanders after that. Was more than 9s behind the leading duo Piero and Roberto, but after I got back up to P3, I was able to reel them in tenth after tenth. At a certain pont Piero crashed with Ronnie who seemed to hold up the leaders a bit, and I had closed up to about 3s. Got closer to Roberto, to about 1s but outbraked myself into Crowthorne Corner 2 laps from the end, locking up and I spun...Piero passed me and I had to settle for 3rd. Good points, but rather would have had a clean race Wink

Congrats Roberto, well deserved, and Piero, and thanks for racing all Smiley And congrats Greg and podium from div A. Wink
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« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2014, 01:20:46 AM +0000 »

Did I go and join the wrong server? DQ, whatever.

...I just felt my motivation for this/these/whatever series plummet.

Not a DQ Dean but you don't get any points. I could have ejected you but if you then had problems joining UKGPL3 that would have meant no racing. Did not want to do that to you.

That is one of your two drops though.
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« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2014, 07:05:14 AM +0000 »

So I guess the server crashed?
Checked on Igor after disco and GPL3 was still there so had an early night, will know to wait longer next time. Oh well live and learn.

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« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2014, 09:15:16 AM +0000 »

Yup, I did the same Boggy, dropped back in to IGOR and the server still showed as populated with 12 cars. I had been ejected back to desktop and assumed that I had just experienced another freeze.  I have had a couple lately, and until this moment was beginning to suspect a problem with my ISP, so at least it was a server issue and not my connection.

On the other hand I was a bit miffed to have taken an early bath and missed out on yet another race after starting so well.

I find with the F2's that a good setup works just about anywhere and on all of the FVA cars, except for the Protos which needs special attention ( and of course the BT14 and Fezza). So I rolled up at Kyalami with the Brab and a setup from a previous race. The gearing needed lengthening for the straight, but otherwise it all felt good.

I put in a banker lap to get me up to 3rd on the grid and then set about settling myself in on race fuel. Gradually I dialled right into the track and pipped Axel for 2nd spot with a smooth clean lap that did not actually feel that fast. Hmmmmm maybe there is more in this setup. I was hoping to get a tow as I reckon that is worth a good 0.5 secs if you catch it right, but every time I caught up with another car they were slower through the corners and I actually lost time. I was happy enough with 2nd place and carried on lapping on race fuel feeling where the braking points were etc. I saw that the qually session was about to end and thought about parking it and relaxing before the start, but decided to just do one more lap and explore the limits of adhesion just a little more. I ran in clear air and with race fuel on board turned in a 1:21.6, which was a real suprise to me !!

The start went well and I could see that Greg was biding his time and planning to use the draft when he got in position on the straight. My job was to make sure he never got "in position" Wink.

The first few laps were slippery on race fuel and cold tyres and numerous small mistakes kept the lap times down. I was just beginning to feel that things were warmed up and that I could really push and when Greg vanished from the mirrors at T2. For a moment I thought he had run wide and smiled, but then I noticed the "Q" bar growing and got a sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach as i waited for the inevitable  Undecided...... and it happened 2 corners later, when night fell suddenly and I had no lights!!!

It was shaping up to be a good dice with Greg and my car felt fast and stable, so I was looking forward to it, but.....................
 
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