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February 14, 2014, 10:12:38 PM +0000 - Snetterton - UKGPL Season 26 (2014) Friday Trophy
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 2 +0.778
108.345mph
1 26:43.513
108.000mph
18 1:28.159
109.133mph
Goodyear  
Robert Fleurke
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 166 GPL F2 1 1:28.022
109.303mph
2 +5.615
107.623mph
18 1:28.004
109.325mph
Firestone  
DLogan
 
Ferrari 166 GPL F2 6 +1.358
107.642mph
3 (+1) +21.030
106.602mph
18 1:28.643
108.537mph
Firestone  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 166 GPL F2 4 +0.883
108.217mph
4 +25.314
106.321mph
18 1:28.987
108.118mph
Firestone  
Tom van Ostade
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT14 GPL F2 7 +1.908
106.984mph
5 +35.528
105.659mph
18 1:28.868
108.262mph
Dunlop  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 166 GPL F2 10 +2.325
106.490mph
6 +48.237
104.846mph
18 1:29.771
107.173mph
Firestone  
GregT
 
Ferrari 166 GPL F2 9 +2.238
106.593mph
7 +53.420
104.518mph
18 1:28.839
108.298mph
Firestone  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Ferrari 166 GPL F2 12 8 +1:15.923
103.117mph
18 1:28.978
108.129mph
Firestone  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
Matra MS5 GPL F2 8 +1.954
106.929mph
9 +1:23.004
102.684mph
18 1:29.589
107.391mph
Dunlop  
NickyIckx
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 166 GPL F2 5 +0.946
108.141mph
10 (+1) +2L
105.103mph
16 1:28.553
108.647mph
Disco
Firestone  
Mark Jones
 
Ferrari 166 GPL F2 3 +0.852
108.255mph
11 +8L
105.037mph
10 1:28.912
108.209mph
unknown
Firestone  
GregT
 
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 12 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Lola T100 (FVA) GPL F2 13 ---
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Firestone  
UKGPL 8
 
McLaren M4A GPL F2 11 16 ---
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Goodyear  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 0h03m05s

Dean runs into the rear of David's car as he brakes for the hairpin. It is early in the race and it cannot be said that David braked any earlier than he normally would have as too few laps have been completed.

This is a simple rear end shunt where Dean was caught out by the braking of the car in front.

Penalty for Dean Simple rear end Shunt


Server replay time: 0h03m05s

Lap 5 and Nicky is closing on Fran down the main straight. Fran runs a little deep into the hairpin and has to slow dramatically to avoid the haybales. Nicky spots an opportunity and takes tighter line into the hairpin.

As Nicky starts to accelerate out of the corner Fran has also gathered himself together and is also standing on the gas. For a few crucial seconds just before the contact neither driver can see the other and they both end up trying to claim the same piece of tarmac.

In this instance I can see why Nicky made the move that he did as it looked likely that Fran was going to hit the haybales and he would have a clear passing opportunity. However Fran did get his car stopped and turned quite neatly although he lost a great deal of time to Nicky.
This falls under the ruling about contested pass, where the cars emerge from the corner side by side after a passing attempt is made.
The guidelines are clear about this and say that each driver should keep to his own 50% of the track width.
Fran undoubtedly stayed on his side of the track but unfortunately Nicky's trajectory took him across the centre line and he made contact with Fran's car.

Penalty for Nicky. Contested pass the overtaking driver did not keep to his own side of the track on the exit of the corner

February 14, 2014, 11:09:40 PM +0000 - Snetterton - UKGPL Season 26 (2014) Friday Trophy
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
AnGex
 Black Night Racing
Lotus 49 (1969) F1 1969 5 +1.626
112.032mph
1 31:37.328
111.500mph
22 1:24.911
113.248mph
Firestone  
Tom van Ostade
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT20 F1 1969 7 +2.455
110.960mph
2 +8.580
110.998mph
22 1:25.040
113.076mph
Dunlop  
GregT
 
Lotus 49 (1969) F1 1969 6 +2.007
111.537mph
3 +21.092
110.274mph
22 1:24.667
113.575mph
Firestone  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT24 (1969) F1 1969 3 +0.950
112.921mph
4 +23.680
110.126mph
22 1:24.835
113.350mph
Dunlop  
NickyIckx
 Antipasti Racing
Lotus 49 (1969) F1 1969 8 +2.632
110.734mph
5 +32.205
109.639mph
22 1:25.244
112.806mph
Firestone  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
McLaren M7 (DFV) F1 1969 2 +0.536
113.473mph
6 (+1) +45.227
108.904mph
22 1:24.784
113.418mph
Goodyear  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Cooper T86b F1 1969 9 +2.764
110.566mph
7 +1:10.960
107.480mph
22 1:26.503
111.164mph
Dunlop  
DLogan
 
Cooper T86b F1 1969 11 +8.070
104.208mph
8 +1:18.257
107.083mph
22 1:26.709
110.900mph
Dunlop  
Robert Fleurke
 Antipasti Racing
Cooper T86b F1 1969 4 +1.611
112.051mph
9 +14L
106.896mph
8 1:25.283
112.754mph
Disco
Dunlop  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 1 1:24.207
114.195mph
10 +18L
106.967mph
4 1:23.965
114.524mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Eagle AAR101 F1 1969 10 +5.559
107.123mph
11 +19L
103.774mph
3 1:30.071
106.760mph
unknown
Goodyear  
UKGPL 8
 
McLaren M9A F1 1969 12 12 DNS ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 0h06m27s

Lap 5 and Fran's extra power in the winged Mclaren takes him past Axels's Eagle on the run towards the Esses.
Fran makes a clean pass well before the corner and brakes at his normal point. Axel has switched his car to the inside and brakes much later than Fran. This takes him 99.99% past Fran as they enter the left hander effectively regaining the place he had just lost.
Although this all happened very quickly, there is no doubt that Axel had made the pass under braking and that Fran made the error when he turned in and hit the rear of the Eagle.
Penalty for Fran contested pass where the overtaking car has 100% overlap and contact is made.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Grand Prix Legends
F1 1969
1:24.207
114.195mph
maddog
Qualifying
Brabham BT26a (DFV)February 14, 2014, 11:09:40 PM +0000
S26Fri
Grand Prix Legends
F1 1969
1:23.965
114.524mph
maddog
Race
Brabham BT26a (DFV)February 14, 2014, 11:09:40 PM +0000
S26Fri
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« on: February 11, 2014, 12:58:41 PM +0000 »

Back to the UK for the next races and an old favourite, Snetterton.

The F2's go well here and with the horsepower available to the Lights limited it will require some serious work around the twisty bits.

I cannot recall racing the 69x's around here so that should be a lively race and once again the Lights are going to have to work hard.
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69x              Free Choice                                         Lot49, BT20, BT24, Cooper T86B, Eagle AAR101    


Red zone will be to the exit of The Bombhole on lap 1

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« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2014, 11:02:37 PM +0000 »

I'll try to make this one as well, should be fun Smiley .

Just a side note but I noticed in my client replay of the 1969 Lime Rock Park race that I could see the entire field (I think there were 17 cars?). I actually prefer it that way, adds to the realism imho, but thought I saw a couple cars warp more than usual, although I'm positive my own warping was limited. Could it be there is a significantly increased strain on client connections with a full grid, so some clients warp more? Not that the warping was that extreme, just something I'd never seen before, all cars in a client replay Smiley .
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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2014, 11:06:51 PM +0000 »

Once again I suggest to avoid the cars of the lights from the choice of the heavies otherwise these groups have no meaning !
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2014, 11:29:22 PM +0000 »

I doubt any Heavy will take an F2 Fez or BT14, or a '69 wingless car though.
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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2014, 04:53:52 AM +0000 »

i see the matra has been removed, damn.  laugh
oh for a red bull. I need wings.
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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2014, 06:44:34 AM +0000 »

 Huh Huh Huh

which track version ?

link at UKGPL Announcements side shows
1. GPLEA Snett67
2. snett rar

afaik above versions do come with slightly different track lenght, at least track short names are different.
Means simply two different tracks for GPL  I guess.....
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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2014, 10:35:06 AM +0000 »

Can I come to play please  Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2014, 11:31:03 AM +0000 »

Huh Huh Huh

which track version ?

link at UKGPL Announcements side shows
1. GPLEA Snett67
2. snett rar

afaik above versions do come with slightly different track lenght, at least track short names are different.
Means simply two different tracks for GPL  I guess.....

We allways drove "snett67" Wink
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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2014, 01:05:12 PM +0000 »

Yes Bernie there should be room, just register for the series. 
There might be an extra space anyway, as for some incomprehensible reason my wife thinks that I should not be "playing with the computer" on Feb 14th!!??? 

After I asked her  "wot's so special about this Friday"  I suddenly blacked out and when I came around in Hospital, she said not to worry because the bruising will have faded before Friday.  blink blink

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« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2014, 02:08:10 PM +0000 »

... I noticed in my client replay of the 1969 Lime Rock Park race that I could see the entire field (I think there were 17 cars?). I actually prefer it that way, adds to the realism imho, but thought I saw a couple cars warp more than usual, although I'm positive my own warping was limited. Could it be there is a significantly increased strain on client connections with a full grid, so some clients warp more? Not that the warping was that extreme, just something I'd never seen before, all cars in a client replay Smiley .

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I set the server to 2/384 2/84 to make this possible.
In my early races with UKGPL I had a bad experience with the slower and lower BW settings 3/132 3/84,
when I did a rejoin at Oulton, where I could not see all the cars behind, I was penalized with 2 places that cost me the Nov championship Roll Eyes

Will my settings make a bad clients connection worse?
I don't think so, as these "old" settings were aimed to use with 56kb modems and I presume there is nobody nowadays using this anymore...  

IMO the spikes of a warp should be reduced by sending every 2nd frame a signal instead of every 3rd
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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2014, 02:25:09 PM +0000 »

Will my settings make a bad clients connection worse?
I don't think so, as these "old" settings were aimed to use with 56kb modems and I presume there is nobody nowadays using this anymore...  

IMO the spikes of a warp should be reduced by sending every 2nd frame a signal instead of every 3rd

The issue is not necessarily the 'bad' client, it is the information flow at the server end that might be an issue. If information is lost and the client is trying to update every second frame rather than third there will be more 'prediction' on the client.

The key is the 132 vs 384 which enables you to see more cars. The amount of data in both cases is tiny so 2/384 2/84 should work fine - but it might not . As with all Internet connections the data flow is not guaranteed. Fun eh? Grin
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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2014, 07:02:22 PM +0000 »

...The issue is not necessarily the 'bad' client, it is the information flow at the server end that might be an issue. If information is lost and the client is trying to update every second frame rather than third there will be more 'prediction' on the client...

Not the way I understand it. The client is predicting every frame, but uses updated data instead if it's available. Thus, running at a faster (every 2 ticks vs. 3 ticks) rate would yield LESS prediction (because it's only predicting 1/2 the time, instead of 2/3).

If information is lost, the client is predicting 100%, no matter what b/w settings are in place.

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...The key is the 132 vs 384 which enables you to see more cars. The amount of data in both cases is tiny so 2/384 2/84 should work fine - but it might not . As with all Internet connections the data flow is not guaranteed. Fun eh? Grin

But 132 is guaranteed to be worse (or, under the worst possible conditions, equal), so why use it?
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« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2014, 11:29:24 PM +0000 »

... I noticed in my client replay of the 1969 Lime Rock Park race that I could see the entire field (I think there were 17 cars?). I actually prefer it that way, adds to the realism imho, but thought I saw a couple cars warp more than usual, although I'm positive my own warping was limited. Could it be there is a significantly increased strain on client connections with a full grid, so some clients warp more? Not that the warping was that extreme, just something I'd never seen before, all cars in a client replay Smiley .

Tommie,
I set the server to 2/384 2/84 to make this possible.
In my early races with UKGPL I had a bad experience with the slower and lower BW settings 3/132 3/84,
when I did a rejoin at Oulton, where I could not see all the cars behind, I was penalized with 2 places that cost me the Nov championship Roll Eyes

Will my settings make a bad clients connection worse?
I don't think so, as these "old" settings were aimed to use with 56kb modems and I presume there is nobody nowadays using this anymore...  

IMO the spikes of a warp should be reduced by sending every 2nd frame a signal instead of every 3rd

I see Smiley . I prefer it so thanks Smiley .
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« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2014, 06:33:36 AM +0000 »

these "old" settings were aimed to use with 56kb modems and I presume there is nobody nowadays using this anymore...  

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« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2014, 06:13:16 PM +0000 »

Yes Bernie there should be room, just register for the series. 
There might be an extra space anyway, as for some incomprehensible reason my wife thinks that I should not be "playing with the computer" on Feb 14th!!??? 

After I asked her  "wot's so special about this Friday"  I suddenly blacked out and when I came around in Hospital, she said not to worry because the bruising will have faded before Friday.  blink blink



Funny you should say that as I just asked HID  " what day is it "   

I am now wearing my Tea !

BTW I have registered but it still says I dont have a licence to drive this series  Roll Eyes
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